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Fruiting Psilocybe Tampanensis
    #26369887 - 12/08/19 09:58 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

So I tried once last year to fruit Tampanensis but failed. I used a jar of spawn that was roughly 3 months into colonization and I spawned to coir and verm. Is poo absolutely needed with this species and should I make the substrate sandy? I would like to harvest stones and fruits. I'll have several jars colonizing to collect fruits from in case the fruiting fails. Any advice at all regarding fruiting this species will be much appreciated. Thank you.


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Re: Fruiting Psilocybe Tampanensis [Re: ZombiWurm]
    #26369906 - 12/08/19 10:18 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Spawning to coir or coir and verm is good, no need to use manure. Did you apply a casing layer before?


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    #26369908 - 12/08/19 10:19 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I did not apply a casing layer. I spawned to coir and verm in a tray and put it in a dub tub.


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Re: Fruiting Psilocybe Tampanensis [Re: ZombiWurm]
    #26369925 - 12/08/19 10:35 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

You can spawn to straight coir and then add a late sand based casing after it’s fully colonized. Look up mycolorado’s sand casing :thumbup:
I recently used two 7mo old grain jars and picked all the stones out and spawned the remaining grain to a shoebox with pretty good results. Dub tub is the way to go though bc it’s easy for them to dry out and you can dial up the humidity pretty easy that way


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Re: Fruiting Psilocybe Tampanensis [Re: ZombiWurm]
    #26369934 - 12/08/19 10:45 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

They nearly always need a casing layer to fruit. Case when your sub is fully colonised, I also case case them with a coir/verm mix with good results but other casings like peat based or cactus soil work well. You need good fae while keeping the humidity up.


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Re: Fruiting Psilocybe Tampanensis [Re: Unknown error]
    #26369971 - 12/08/19 11:16 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Any cactus mix will work? I have a lot of it for my San Pedros. So a dub tub with a fan blowing in the room and mist often?


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Re: Fruiting Psilocybe Tampanensis [Re: sporealchemy]
    #26369973 - 12/08/19 11:17 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

What does the sand contribute to the mushrooms?


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Re: Fruiting Psilocybe Tampanensis [Re: ZombiWurm]
    #26370004 - 12/08/19 11:48 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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What does the sand contribute to the mushrooms?




It creates little micro climates on the surface setting the stage for pins.


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Re: Fruiting Psilocybe Tampanensis [Re: Nichrome]
    #26370009 - 12/08/19 11:54 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I keep the inside of the lid tub misty and occasionally I hit the the fruits. Evaporation isn’t all that fast when dubbed. With cubes we really focus on the surface conditions but the overall humidity is important with tamps since the caps can so easily dry up, causing them to not drop spores. I will admit that the casing can be a nuisance when harvesting since it really wants to come with the mushrooms even when cutting. You could try scissors if you have this issue. A fan is your call but not necessary.

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And yes I would say microclimate too~ That and they like tunneling through it to fruit above it.
I would imagine that cactus mix is already pretty close to what mycolorado recommends :thumbup:


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Re: Fruiting Psilocybe Tampanensis [Re: sporealchemy]
    #26370017 - 12/09/19 12:04 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

The more FAE the girthier they develop. The best way is a martha type setup. Sand is great, it's more natural for them as they are from Tampa after all. I used coir/verm, but this next time I'm gonna rock sand in the mix and run a monotub as well as shoeboxes in a monotub.


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Re: Fruiting Psilocybe Tampanensis [Re: sporealchemy]
    #26370018 - 12/09/19 12:04 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I think most cactus soils are a sandy peat mix so most should work.


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Re: Fruiting Psilocybe Tampanensis [Re: Unknown error]
    #26370019 - 12/09/19 12:05 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Fruiting Psilocybe Tampanensis [Re: Failboat]
    #26370063 - 12/09/19 12:58 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Awesome thank you all. I really appreciate the help. The last time I tried I did get knots but they stayed that way for like 3 weeks so I gave up. Didn't even get any stones from the substrate and not much from the jars either. It was all multispore. Would you guys suggest I go to agar first for sure and what kind of time period should I expect from knock to harvest if everything goes according to plan?


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Re: Fruiting Psilocybe Tampanensis [Re: Unknown error]
    #26370065 - 12/09/19 12:59 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

The cactus mix I get at the local big box store doesn't appear to have any sand in it at all. It is very chunky too.


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Re: Fruiting Psilocybe Tampanensis [Re: ZombiWurm]
    #26370081 - 12/09/19 01:27 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Interesting. Is there pumice? It’s supposed to not hold a lot of moisture/have good drainage with whatever is used. The peat I get can hold more water than jiffy mix so I avoid it unless I’m using it to case PE


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Re: Fruiting Psilocybe Tampanensis [Re: sporealchemy]
    #26370396 - 12/09/19 08:07 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Definitely go agar first. Idk about timelines, but probably 6 weeks I'd guess. I'm actually about to go noc millet pint masters with my Tamp stone clones.


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Re: Fruiting Psilocybe Tampanensis [Re: Failboat]
    #26370442 - 12/09/19 08:38 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Are you just dropping a stone in the jar?


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    #26371991 - 12/09/19 10:29 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Break a stone in half and take a little bit From the inside. Put that on agar.


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Re: Fruiting Psilocybe Tampanensis [Re: Unknown error]
    #26372011 - 12/09/19 10:38 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Will do. Do you have any idea why my last jars produced almost no stones at all? They were multispore jars and sat for 4 months.


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Re: Fruiting Psilocybe Tampanensis [Re: ZombiWurm]
    #26372062 - 12/09/19 11:38 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

That pic is a transfer plate of a stone tissue sample on agar. As for your spawn lacking stones perhaps it was hydration or maybe contams? Maybe genetics? I've had varying stone yields on grains. That's why I cloned the largest stone I've had yet.


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