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First Grow- Success! First Trip- Massive Fail! Why?
    #26369308 - 12/08/19 03:38 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Last night I prepared 2g of homegrown Golden Teacher using Lemon Tek. Drank at 9:10, after a 24 hr fast. 15 minutes in and nausea hits and continues to grow. Shortly after that my thoughts began to shift, but not in a good or pleasant way. Throughout the night I was alternatively hot then cold. I would fall asleep and jerk awake! I never felt like I was tripping at all, just sick. 17 hrs after drinking the lemon juice and I feel better but not a lot.

At first I thought the problem is the prescription of Gabapentin I take, but before I ever started to grow I checked on Gabapentin and could find no negative interactions between it and shrooms, nor have I been able to find anything new today. But what I did learn is that Gabapentin can, and often does, interact negatively with citric acid! That makes me think the Lemon Tek is the reason I got sick.

Does anyone here have experience with this? If it was the lemon juice combined with the Gabapentin that caused all the negative stuff then why didn’t I trip? Or did I and was too sick to recognize or appreciate it?

A confusing and disappointing first try.


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Re: First Grow- Success! First Trip- Massive Fail! Why? [Re: Excitednoob]
    #26369315 - 12/08/19 03:41 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

It’s an anti seizure medicine; psilocybin is known for its sometimes anti seizure properties, sometimes for its seizure causing properties. It’s sounds like a bad combination, bro. Stay safe.

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Re: First Grow- Success! First Trip- Massive Fail! Why? [Re: Excitednoob]
    #26369370 - 12/08/19 04:14 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I take 300 mg of gabapentin daily and never experienced symptoms like you're describing.  I always brew tea with small amount of lemon with no issues.


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Re: First Grow- Success! First Trip- Massive Fail! Why? [Re: droner66]
    #26369426 - 12/08/19 04:42 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Could be from the 24 hr fast, and your empty stomache's response to lemon/shrooms  juice. Maybe try not eating for 3-4 hrs before you trip and see if you have better results. You could also try making tea with some ginger instead of the lemon Tek.


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Re: First Grow- Success! First Trip- Massive Fail! Why? [Re: oKiHai]
    #26369456 - 12/08/19 04:53 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I take 900, and wonder if that, combined with quite a bit of OJ and lemon juice, plus the empty stomach could have done it? As it starts to get dark here I still feel lousy!


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Re: First Grow- Success! First Trip- Massive Fail! Why? [Re: oKiHai]
    #26369463 - 12/08/19 04:56 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I had thought I’d try a tea next time, but had not thought of adding ginger. Thanks!


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Re: First Grow- Success! First Trip- Massive Fail! Why? [Re: Excitednoob]
    #26369535 - 12/08/19 05:32 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

2g is nothing. i take 2g as a casual dose when i got wwork the next day. take more, preferably in tea form:stoned:

how did u dry these shrooms?


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Re: First Grow- Success! First Trip- Massive Fail! Why? [Re: mushboy]
    #26369553 - 12/08/19 05:44 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

oKiHai said:
Could be from the 24 hr fast, and your empty stomache's response to lemon/shrooms  juice. Maybe try not eating for 3-4 hrs before you trip and see if you have better results. You could also try making tea with some ginger instead of the lemon Tek.



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2g is nothing. i take 2g as a casual dose when i got wwork the next day. take more, preferably in tea form:stoned:

how did u dry these shrooms?




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Depending on what's eaten, 4-6 hours is plenty for an empty stomach. A light breakfast/lunch is fine for afternoon/evening tripping.

2g can do a lot with some heavy intentions into set and setting. 2g can also be extremely underwhelming and disappointing when an ego is involved, looking for something.

I heard in a podcast that certain deficiencies can cause someone not to trip. I'll have to listen again to hear the specifics.


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Re: First Grow- Success! First Trip- Massive Fail! Why? [Re: HamHead]
    #26369558 - 12/08/19 05:49 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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2g can do a lot with some heavy intentions into set and setting. 2g can also be extremely underwhelming and disappointing when an ego is involved, looking for something.





i agree 100%

2g at home when the wife is gone? awesome
2g at a concert? lame

unless itss penis envy. i took 2g penis for iron maiden back in july. :feelsweirdman:


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Re: First Grow- Success! First Trip- Massive Fail! Why? [Re: mushboy]
    #26369629 - 12/08/19 06:37 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I dried some Golden Teacher and some PES Hawaiian in a dehydrator. The GT’s, which I took last night, came out cracker dry; but the Hawaiians, which were taller and thinner dried down to dark brown sticks and caps! I think I might have ‘cooked’ both of them.


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Re: First Grow- Success! First Trip- Massive Fail! Why? [Re: Excitednoob]
    #26369634 - 12/08/19 06:41 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

naw you did good with dehydrator. thats the way to go:thumbup:

some people need more shrooms some dont. kinda like booze. some people can drink, others ggo to jail after a beer:shrug:

id try 4g in a tea. just boil thhe shrooms filter the pieces and chug down.


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Re: First Grow- Success! First Trip- Massive Fail! Why? [Re: mushboy]
    #26369648 - 12/08/19 06:45 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I have syringes of both Penis Envy Uncut and APE, and have read on here and Reddit how potent they are. Based on my reaction I am glad I didn’t take more than 2 grams of the GT. If all of this is due to the lemon Tek I do want to try it Again without lemons sometime.


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Re: First Grow- Success! First Trip- Massive Fail! Why? [Re: mushboy]
    #26369654 - 12/08/19 06:49 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

What do you use as a filter? I used a coffee filter and the lemon juice would not go thru!? I ended up filtering it thru a small mesh wire drainer. I’m sure parts of the fruit slipped thru but couldn’t see much.


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Re: First Grow- Success! First Trip- Massive Fail! Why? [Re: Excitednoob]
    #26369656 - 12/08/19 06:49 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

ddude. grow the penis. do not wait. i am life and death serious. grow penis. eat penis. become penis. gay sex is optional.

i use a wire mesh strainer. check out my tea tek linkage below.


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Re: First Grow- Success! First Trip- Massive Fail! Why? [Re: mushboy]
    #26369739 - 12/08/19 07:43 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Thank you, mushboy! Everything you’ve said, or linked, makes total sense and has been a big help! My space is limited but the plan is to grow a Penis Envy (of some sort, Besides the syringes I also have a Penis Envy 6 print that I don’t know what to do with) and Mazatapec next time around. I suspect you’d advise that I forget the Mazatapec and concentrate on Penis Envys. :smile:


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Re: First Grow- Success! First Trip- Massive Fail! Why? [Re: HamHead]
    #26369744 - 12/08/19 07:46 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Thank you, HamHead. Would you mind telling me the name of the podcast? After my experience that sounds like something I need to listen to.


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Re: First Grow- Success! First Trip- Massive Fail! Why? [Re: mushboy]
    #26370287 - 12/09/19 06:34 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Thank you, mushboy! Everything you’ve said, or linked, makes total sense and has been a big help! My space is limited but the plan is to grow a Penis Envy (of some sort, Besides the syringes I also have a Penis Envy 6 print that I don’t know what to do with) and Mazatapec next time around. I suspect you’d advise that I forget the Mazatapec and concentrate on Penis Envys. :smile:


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Re: First Grow- Success! First Trip- Massive Fail! Why? [Re: mushboy]
    #26370288 - 12/09/19 06:34 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

What do you use as a filter? I used a coffee filter and the lemon juice would not go thru!? I ended up filtering it thru a small mesh wire drainer. I’m sure parts of the fruit slipped thru but couldn’t see much.


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Re: First Grow- Success! First Trip- Massive Fail! Why? [Re: mushboy]
    #26370289 - 12/09/19 06:34 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I have syringes of both Penis Envy Uncut and APE, and have read on here and Reddit how potent they are. Based on my reaction I am glad I didn’t take more than 2 grams of the GT. If all of this is due to the lemon Tek I do want to try it Again without lemons sometime.


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Re: First Grow- Success! First Trip- Massive Fail! Why? [Re: mushboy]
    #26370290 - 12/09/19 06:34 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I dried some Golden Teacher and some PES Hawaiian in a dehydrator. The GT’s, which I took last night, came out cracker dry; but the Hawaiians, which were taller and thinner dried down to dark brown sticks and caps! I think I might have ‘cooked’ both of them.


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