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InvisibleZombiWurm
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Where to start when opening a spore store?
    #26368896 - 12/08/19 11:46 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I don't know where else to put this so if it needs to be somewhere else feel free to move it.

I've been debating opening a spore store. Where do I start and are spore vendors expected to have advanced equipment like flow hoods? If I can get "clean" prints in a SAB wouldn't that be good enough? I probably wouldn't do syringes because I have no experience making them.


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Re: Where to start when opening a spore store? [Re: ZombiWurm]
    #26368904 - 12/08/19 11:49 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

A member here opened his own site which I have frequented, but he's not a listed sponsor. I know nothing more than it is doable. He offers syringes. Noobs like syringes. Syringes make $$$.


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Re: Where to start when opening a spore store? [Re: ZombiWurm]
    #26368934 - 12/08/19 12:04 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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ZombiWurm said:
I don't know where else to put this so if it needs to be somewhere else feel free to move it.

I've been debating opening a spore store. Where do I start and are spore vendors expected to have advanced equipment like flow hoods? If I can get "clean" prints in a SAB wouldn't that be good enough? I probably wouldn't do syringes because I have no experience making them.




You need to be able to provide quality products to have successful ongoing business (good marketing can make up for shortcomings of bad quality products in short term but in long term won't get returning customers).

Flow hood if used properly can definitely increase the quality of products but neither prints nor spore syringes can ever really be 100% contaminant free - I'm sure only SAB can work for someone with the right sterile technique but FH can only improve it if used right.

Either be respectable or be flashy to attract customers and you need to think about legal aspect of your business(depending on country/location); as well as competition with established vendors. If no one will want to buy from you cause there are better/safer options your store is very unlikely to succeed.

As Quirkmeister pointed out - a lot of profit comes from syringes (one print can be made into a lot more syringes). Another good source of profit could be quality grow kits (that generally are frowned upon here as providing bad value for money even if they are high quality; but can be good for beginner introduction to mycology or home growing) but those require autoclave for reasonable production ramp-up and quality - actual production costs for those are laughably low compared to what they are sold for.


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Re: Where to start when opening a spore store? [Re: MrBovineJoni]
    #26368950 - 12/08/19 12:13 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Fuck grow kits. That's just a shitty product. Don't sell shitty products. I regret when I did so in life, don't make that mistake.

The guy I refer to who has now made a second site so as to separate gourmet/medicinal from actives markets his syringes as contam free, and IME the solution is clean. That said I always use agar and take transfers.

I suspect in a legit cleanroom one could grow fruits contam free and then make truly aseptic prints and syringes. It would be somewhat costly and challenging, but possible.


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Re: Where to start when opening a spore store? [Re: Failboat]
    #26368983 - 12/08/19 12:28 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

It would be cool to start your own spore store, but spores are such a gray area. You would be under scrutiny of DEA and every drug unit in your area.


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Re: Where to start when opening a spore store? [Re: Antigov]
    #26368987 - 12/08/19 12:30 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Build a library, then dilute.


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Re: Where to start when opening a spore store? [Re: Failboat]
    #26369003 - 12/08/19 12:37 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Having and selling spores is largely legal unless in a prohibited state.

The real issue is the harvesting of spores.  Harvesting is part of my states manufacturing laws.  Planting, tending, feeding, harvesting, all very illegal terminology.

Spore stores get spores from across the pond, supposedly.  Care must be taken to insulate the spores from where they come from.  Even if wild harvested, harvesting is cultivation.


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Re: Where to start when opening a spore store? [Re: Failboat]
    #26369317 - 12/08/19 03:45 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Quirkmeister92 said:
Fuck grow kits. That's just a shitty product. Don't sell shitty products. I regret when I did so in life, don't make that mistake.

The guy I refer to who has now made a second site so as to separate gourmet/medicinal from actives markets his syringes as contam free, and IME the solution is clean. That said I always use agar and take transfers.

I suspect in a legit cleanroom one could grow fruits contam free and then make truly aseptic prints and syringes. It would be somewhat costly and challenging, but possible.




For that kind of clean room you would need an automated sanitizer shower to get yourself as close to as clean as the room is. Hospitals have them, the ones equiped to handle lethal epidemics.


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Re: Where to start when opening a spore store? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #26369328 - 12/08/19 03:51 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I've been talking to a few people outside of the US who say they have enough spores to supply a small spore store. I don't know how true it is though. I also have some friends in Europe who pick fruits and are willing to ship the spores to me. All that but I can't find a single person in Louisiana to ship me a Acadian Coast Cubensis print.


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Re: Where to start when opening a spore store? [Re: ZombiWurm]
    #26369597 - 12/08/19 06:08 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Never heard of Acadian Coast Cubensis. :shrug:


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Re: Where to start when opening a spore store? [Re: Failboat]
    #26369640 - 12/08/19 06:43 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

It's wild Cubensis that grow in south Louisiana. That's where I grew up and they are the variety I picked and cultivated outdoors in Louisiana. It is a very good variety but it's hard to find unless you live there. Theres a few people with some true Albinos found in the wild in louisiana but they wont let go of any spores to anyone but amongst themselves.


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Re: Where to start when opening a spore store? [Re: ZombiWurm]
    #26369645 - 12/08/19 06:44 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

#1 You need a legal source of clean spores


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Re: Where to start when opening a spore store? [Re: Doc9151]
    #26369686 - 12/08/19 07:05 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I imagine that spore stores never produce their own spores, just buy them from cultivators.  That way the illegal activity isn't in their camp.


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Re: Where to start when opening a spore store? [Re: rickyswamps]
    #26369693 - 12/08/19 07:09 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Exactly,  you need a legal cultivation operation to buy from is exactly my point.


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Re: Where to start when opening a spore store? [Re: Antigov] * 1
    #26369708 - 12/08/19 07:21 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Antigov said:
It would be cool to start your own spore store, but spores are such a gray area. You would be under scrutiny of DEA and every drug unit in your area.



:whathesaid:

If you plan on opening a physical store I would be very careful how you market your product and more so your interactions with customers. Undercovers would try to get you to slip up in conversation and get you to acknowledge your selling spores for cultivation.

Also are you planning on selling spores directly from wild specimens?


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Re: Where to start when opening a spore store? [Re: ZombiWurm]
    #26369713 - 12/08/19 07:21 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

This thread has been closed.

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not cultivation related. and because:oldman:


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