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Do u think u live in the wrong time and place?
#26368290 - 12/08/19 04:26 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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For me its yes and no. I love music and drugs, but when for example i watch Lord of the Rings, i cant help but wish i lived at another time and another place
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Re: Do u think u live in the wrong time and place? [Re: Gypsy Boy]
#26368294 - 12/08/19 04:39 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Right time right place.
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Re: Do u think u live in the wrong time and place? [Re: Loaded Shaman]
#26368295 - 12/08/19 04:43 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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I wish I was born in Y2K to live longer but my spirit guide promised to reincarnate me to about 10 years before my death date of this life, so that I'll consciously have continuity of whats unfolding in the world.
So, should I die in 2080, I'll reincarnate to about 2070
Knowing that, I'm fine with having been born when I was, or dying when I will.
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Re: Do u think u live in the wrong time and place? [Re: Gypsy Boy]
#26368307 - 12/08/19 04:56 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Gypsy Boy said: For me its yes and no. I love music and drugs, but when for example i watch Lord of the Rings, i cant help but wish i lived at another time and another place 
What if the F*ck You Fairy turned you into an Orc though?
What if you were an intellectually superior but autistic slave to a sadistic master with a near daily fondness for the spanking paddle as a means to bring cheer to his life at your expense? Who bought you not for your intellectual acumen or personal powress but because of your fat ass for the purpose HE had in mind? Not saying this in jest, it would be exceptionally awful as was the reality of slavery.
You want to be Legolas, sure, but what if you were some no name goblin in the mines of Moria, pushed around for life until dying a horrid death?
The past isn't all that yiffy for the majority of people.
We all want to be the pharaoh but what if you're just a stone pusher?
Paradise on earth is in the future, not the past.
Tribal society sucked too cause the slightest ailment coiuld gore you in a nasty way and there was so much work to be done just to survive.
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Re: Do u think u live in the wrong time and place? [Re: Asante]
#26368320 - 12/08/19 05:10 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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In LORT world u dont have to be an orc or a goblin, in fact u can be anyone character u like
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Re: Do u think u live in the wrong time and place? [Re: Gypsy Boy]
#26368321 - 12/08/19 05:11 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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I actually remember 2003... when I watched the fellowship on 70 fresh grams of cubes, an experience to remember ₩
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Re: Do u think u live in the wrong time and place? [Re: Gypsy Boy]
#26368342 - 12/08/19 05:39 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Gypsy Boy said: In LORT world u dont have to be an orc or a goblin, in fact u can be anyone character u like
If you're born into it though..
Do you believe humans choose the life they live, with all its doom and glory, prior to incarnating?
That is a spiritual possibility, that souls made a deal with God to be slaves and masters during slavery to learn lessons for future lives.
Some spiritual traditions say it is so.
Do you feel its so, that an Orc chose to be born an Orc, in your LOTR analogy?
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Re: Do u think u live in the wrong time and place? [Re: Asante]
#26368353 - 12/08/19 05:58 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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This is actually the best time in human history to be alive. Believe me your grandparents didn't have it as good as you do. Back then beating the sh-t out of your children was normal parenting. Sexually abusing children was also a lot more common back then. The news makes it seem like gun violence is out of control but in reality it's much safer to be alive now than it was back then. The reason everyone is depressed right now is because we kind of lost are purpose in life. Back in the day you got married really young and you worked while your wife raised the children. You was so distracted on staying alive that you didn't have time for depression and pondering the meaning of life. Now the women want to work instead of getting married and they're 60 pounds over weight. That's why you want to live in a different time period .
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Re: Do u think u live in the wrong time and place? [Re: Shenmue]
#26368377 - 12/08/19 06:21 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Asante, I dont believe orcs have souls in LOTR
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Re: Do u think u live in the wrong time and place? [Re: Gypsy Boy]
#26368379 - 12/08/19 06:25 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shenmue, the main reason I love LOTR universe so much is cos of unspoiled nature. Here everything been poisoned and polluted there really not much place u can go.
I want to see mountains again Gandalf, mountains!!
The closest nature u can get to is australia, which is now burning and u can hardly breath, and Russia Midland which are picture perfect but there nasty ticks in the wood/grass land
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Re: Do u think u live in the wrong time and place? [Re: Gypsy Boy]
#26368398 - 12/08/19 06:42 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Do u think u live in the wrong time and place? [Re: Gypsy Boy]
#26368456 - 12/08/19 07:37 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Gypsy Boy said: Asante, I dont believe orcs have souls in LOTR 
Even cockroaches have souls in my view, and I would stomp one instantly if I saw one and esinfect the spot to prevent eggs hatching. (very hardy creatures, they can survive a week with their head cut off because they have a second brain in their body, and in this time still get fucked by a less picky roach and lay eggs thereof.)
The Soul in my book is the Operator, the one behind the keyboard, that observes the sensory input and makes the rational decisions.
The Orc's eyes shoot between beefy Gimli with his huge axe and lil Frodo with his daggerlike sword and decides to pound the latter one's cranium with his warhammer. This was his operator/soul's decision.
In doing so he didnt see Legolas in the distance, surfing down the stairs on a shield, shooting an arrow right between the Orc's eyes, foiling the Orc's plan to reduce the Trilogy to a single movie 
Orcs have souls and this is why RL Neonazis LOVE LOTR because its a genocidal race war to the death by an author raised in Apartheid south africa.
You didnt know that huh? Neonazis, the serious kind who denies the holocaust with his words but prays for concentration camp smoke stacks smoking all over the world, they loooove Lord of the Rings because of the NAKED FASCISM of its storytelling.
Imagine, just for mercy's sake, that when the Uruk-hai captured the hobbits and dragged them away from their enemy, that Samwise sprains his ankle, one of the Uruk-hai takes pity, carries him at his own expense and the healer of the platoon, once at a safe distance, applies a good massage, a herbs and mud packing to help it heal enough, out of pity and to keep them going, for efficiency.
Even in concentration camps there have been instances of a guard doing something unexpectedly nice for an inmate because something triggered their mercy despite the situation they were in.
Do this thought experiment.
Orcs have SOULS and they were genocided out of existence until the very last one.
Thats NAZISM.
LOTR is very beautiful but also extremely ugly. I as a hobby writer find it an unethical type of book to write. Great for its time, with the TOTAL WAR of The Great War and World War Two, but now that we learned, truly LEARNED, no longer acceptable, just like minstrel shows and fag bashing.
*ring ring*
Oh, I believe it's for you 
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Re: Do u think u live in the wrong time and place? [Re: Asante]
#26368460 - 12/08/19 07:41 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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How do you differentiate, "soul" from, "brain"? What is your definition of a soul?
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Re: Do u think u live in the wrong time and place? [Re: Newbie]
#26368477 - 12/08/19 07:57 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have a very simple answer to that:
The whole universe is self writing code (Chris Langan IQ200)
Your organism is a bunch of code, a mix of software and hardware, both of which are forms of code.
I believe your soul is a snippet of code of all your experiences in this life and past incarnations.
Ultimately we are all that Cosmicf code reassembling itself.
Your soul is my soul, is a roache's soul.
THERE IS ONLY THE UNIVERSE AND WE ARE IT.
Scientists can stick needles dipped in mustard gas (a strong cellular toxin) in any part of the brain but will never be avle to knock out the soul, unless the subject is killed, in which case the particle form of the code (the human) in wave form (the spirit) leaves the body more permanently than during a dream or other Out of Body Ecperience, towards its next life.
How this happens is via Heaven.
If you die, time for you ceases to be a focal point but gets wider and wider (like time dilation in a trip) until it encompasses the entire Multiverse.
YOU BECOME ONE WITH EVERYTHIN.
THE DROP BECOMES THE OCEAN.
Then you ???
After that PROFIT, a new life.
How is this eternal?
The Universe starts with a BIG BANG of stuff that diminishes in number until the last thing returns to void. Void without substance has zero size, so the moment the last plhoton or whatever ceases to be: INSTANTANEOUS condensation of the Void to a new Big Bang and there you and I are again, to in any possible way, Do The Timewarp Again.
Can you feel it?
I sure can
YOU ARE THE ETERNAL OBSERVER
PASSENGER OF THE RIDE
AND THE DRIVER TOO.
BUT ABOVE ALL..
THE ALL SEEING EYE..
THE COSMIC VOYEUR WATCHING US RIGHT NOW!
If anything, you can get high on these words if you let them take you.
So that for a moment, you fear no evil.
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Re: Do u think u live in the wrong time and place? [Re: Asante] 1
#26368499 - 12/08/19 08:11 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Code is a human construct. We created the word and the idea. I'm not denying that the current state we're in is absolutely fucking mind blowing, but I don't associate any supernatural properties to it.
I firmly believe that when the brain dies, so do the electrical impulses running it. Lights out.
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Re: Do u think u live in the wrong time and place? [Re: Asante]
#26368504 - 12/08/19 08:13 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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How does that harbour any hope for man kind?
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Re: Do u think u live in the wrong time and place? [Re: Gypsy Boy]
#26368567 - 12/08/19 08:45 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Newbie said: Code is a human construct. We created the word and the idea.
Its a concept we deduced from how nature might work, and we are having this discussion over the Internet so, "code" is at the very least a functional delusion with practical utility, which is the best that can be said about anything that seems correct.
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Gypsy Boy said: How does that harbour any hope for man kind?
I'll let my spirit guide answer that for you:
THIS is the video he had me make:
THIS is the text He spoke to me to put with the video:
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Spirit Guide said:
There is a beginning, and there is an end to all things. we grieve the loss of what we hold dear and go on until we, too, end.
But! What if this universe is eternal? What if all things that once begun and ended, will happen again in every possible way, forever? Think about it! You would not just have one life, but you would have every possible life, in every possible way, forever!
That means that no matter what you lose, your keys, your friends, your life, it would all come back to you, forever.
Rather than a prisoner of circumstance, you are liberated into total freedom. Even if the sun would explode, a new earth would be, life would form on it and you will be born again into every possible reality.
Be free! Be brave! Play! Work! Achieve! Love!
Not even all the nukes in the world can stop you!
YOU ARE ETERNAL!
He did this on the day Trump was elected thanks to an all out Russian cyberwar upon America, which I was entirely oblivious of, and which only came to light later.
Dude knows things, I trust him.
But is that not a message of hope for all humanity?
Speaking of.. it cant be said enough.. Hit it Charlie!
Lest we forget.
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Re: Do u think u live in the wrong time and place? [Re: Asante]
#26368585 - 12/08/19 08:53 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Its a concept we deduced from how nature might work, and we are having this discussion over the Internet so, "code" is at the very least a functional delusion with practical utility, which is the best that can be said about anything that seems correct.
I just care about what's true and what isn't true. Yes, we're having a discussion over the internet, but that doesn't mean that anything biblical is real or holds any real value to reality. Especially when we're in the age of instant validation. If jesus had the internet I'm sure this would be a very different discussion.
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Re: Do u think u live in the wrong time and place? [Re: Newbie]
#26368682 - 12/08/19 09:45 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm in the right time but in the wrong place. I was supposed to be dictator of North Korea. There was a glitch of some kind...
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Re: Do u think u live in the wrong time and place? [Re: Newbie]
#26368709 - 12/08/19 09:55 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Newbie, all we were discussing is whether the content of theb universe can be expressed as being code. We know that this is the case. Whatever DNA does, it can be reduced to binary code even though its a tad more complex than we realize today.
I don't ask you to believe in the bible, I sometimes address God with abundant swear words and sometimes eat decidedly haram pig's meat.
I just say, the bible, the qu'ran, the general theory of relativity, there are ihings of merit in all those and problably flaws in then too.
If you don't WANT a God I won't forcefeed you one.
I just talked about Chris Langan's physics theory that the universe is self writing code, which corresponds rather nicely with "In the beginning there was the Word and the Word was GOD" and that Genesis 1 is an awesome metaphor for the Big Bang.
If you reason, part of the universe reasons, correct?
So a property of the universe is reasoning, by extension of creating humans and roaches that reason on their level. "Does the Universe perceive me like I perceive it?" "No head, nice ass, aww fuck it lets go!"
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