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OfflineLosTresOjos
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Re: How the heck do you guys handle Psychedelics? [Re: footpath]
    #26375289 - 12/11/19 03:23 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

It's fun. And terrifying. But bliss can be found. It comes from understanding that you have no control. Ever. The idea that you don't matter. You are not special. It can be liberating and extremely terrifying. Depends on perspective.


  It's like asking about the sound of the universe. Is it shrieking in terror or laughing hysterically? Perspective.


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Re: How the heck do you guys handle Psychedelics? [Re: LosTresOjos]
    #26375805 - 12/11/19 07:03 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

How to handle psychedelics.
  • Strap on moon boots
  • Eat psychedelics
  • If ever in doubt about what's happening check footwear

:awesome:


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Re: How the heck do you guys handle Psychedelics? [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26376083 - 12/11/19 09:06 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I believe the McKenna quote you alluded to was: “Mushrooms can not kill you. (Pause). Mushrooms can persuade you they can kill you, but they cannot kill you. (Laughter)[




I like that quote, but the one I'm thinking of is this, or something with similar wording; I must have heard it in one of his talks on youtube:

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If you take a psychedelic drug and you are not afraid you took too much, you didn't do enough




It's not so much the idea that you should feel the need to take 5g or whatever he suggests, but if you do find yourself in a trip which is getting a bit overwhelming, I think this quote is reassuring - i.e. don't panic, this is how it is supposed to feel at this kind of dose!

:aliceshocker: :scaryshroom:

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footpath wrote: Don't get caught up listening to other people's interpretations of the intangible.




This is a good point. To the OP - when you trip for the first time, don't expect it to conform to anyone else's theories or descriptions, just enjoy the experience in your own way.

:slowpoke:


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Re: How the heck do you guys handle Psychedelics? [Re: Aldebaran]
    #26376166 - 12/11/19 10:18 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

"The challenge is not to find the answer, it's to face the answer" -Terrence Mckenna-


Edited by JustABoxOfRain (12/11/19 10:22 PM)


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Re: How the heck do you guys handle Psychedelics? [Re: Aldebaran]
    #26377022 - 12/12/19 11:13 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Aldebaran said:
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If you take a psychedelic drug and you are not afraid you took too much, you didn't do enough




:slowpoke:




Haha love it. I’ve heard him say similar on a few videos. There are a few along the lines of “How to take psychedelics”; invariably he says people do not take enough.

Cheers,
DJ Ed


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Re: How the heck do you guys handle Psychedelics? [Re: faoneus]
    #26377430 - 12/12/19 02:57 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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faoneus said:
I barely even understand normal reality as it is. What am I, where does realty come from, what even IS reality? Do others experience the same reality as me? I feel kinda crazy,  because I don't even understand these things in normal realty, so jumping into a reality which I literally cannot imagine seems, well... UNIMAGINABLE!! The while concept seems batshit terrifying. It's quite hilarious, really. I imagine it as bizarre, peculiar, and terrifying, even though I know I can't imagine it. I feel like I'm just worrying, because my ego is freaking out trying to imagine what it cannot.




Sounds like you're ready to dive in.  They will give you a better understanding of reality - what it is, how our inaccurate maps of it are constructed, how what you think it is never the real thing.  And remember, it's always OK to blink.



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Re: How the heck do you guys handle Psychedelics? [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26380216 - 12/13/19 09:34 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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faoneus said:
My two cents: A few factoids I've learned really clicked in lately. Carl Jung described the danger of psychedelics being not that the experience isn't real, but that it's more real than you want it to be. People have said that the psychedelic experience is completeineffible - you cannot describe it, nor can someone who hasn't experienced it imagine it. These two statements really clicked recently. I'm yet to take any psychedelics, and it occurred to me that whatever I've been imagining the experience like in my head, it's absolutely nothing like that and infinitely more real than the space in my imaginaon. A reality so completely unimaginable and wholly other that I literally cannot think it (which gets kinda freaky when I have a dream where I experience psychedelics).

I barely even understand normal reality as it is. What am I, where does realty come from, what even IS reality? Do others experience the same reality as me? I feel kinda crazy,  because I don't even understand these things in normal realty, so jumping into a reality which I literally cannot imagine seems, well... UNIMAGINABLE!! The while concept seems batshit terrifying. It's quite hilarious, really. I imagine it as bizarre, peculiar, and terrifying, even though I know I can't imagine it. I feel like I'm just worrying, because my ego is freaking out trying to imagine what it cannot.
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Wow your psychedelic journey stretches out in your future; you have so many great experiences to look forward to.

I would give you a bit of advice, which is my own personal opinion, so by all means discard it as bullshit! But I would advise you to do your first trip at around 3.5g dried Psilocybe Cubensis, and take it with an experienced friend. This dose will give you a really good feel for the psychedelic experience. It will be an intense come up, and you will probably be filled with anxiety. But that’s where your experienced friend comes in. You will not freak out the same if someone is experiencing the same as you and is telling you that you’ll be fine.

And what you will find is that after about 1.5 to 2 hours, you’ll get to the peak, and the psychedelic headspace. This is the ultimate, and once you have experienced this headspace, you will want to come back. You go through the fear and anxiety to get to the headspace. Depending on dose, you may be lucid, you may be stimulated, you may be stoned, you may be lost; but you will get positive results from the headspace - healing, spirituality, curiosity. Some effects you may experience here: telepathy, time travel, time dilation, eternity, oneness, acceptance, bliss, euphoria, total wow this is fucking MAGIC. I often see fairies in the air - twinkly little lights floating around; I see the web of consciousness; I see the elves. You will be filled with wonder for life.

If you go too large a dose for your first go, and are not prepared, nd in a safe setting, you may scare yourself away forever. And that would be a real shame.

Good luck, stay safe, and enjoy.

Don’t forget the trip report 👊🏻
Take care,
DJ Ed




I did 3.5 g my first time, turned out just fine fortunately. But in retrospect I would say start with less. You never know what's going to happen to you. My most recent experience with 3.5g rocked my world. I've had experiences on 2.5g that were more powerful than experiences I've had with 4-7g. You just can't be sure what your going to get. I had some pomegranate juice which may have increased the effect some how. Anyways be smart do your research. Absolutely have someone with you that is experienced and that you would be comfortable with when your at your most vulnerable state.

Read through the Trippers FAQ there's good stuff in there


Edited by Shurbb (12/30/19 02:54 PM)


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