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Re: First-Time Brown Rice Flour TEK Question / Pic [Re: BigSkyMind]
    #26387130 - 12/17/19 01:52 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah I stopped reading anything except for this site. There’s plenty of verified TEKs for everything.

When I first started I followed a tek from somewhere else which was fine all the way til the last step. Then It said to sterilize the casing layer which actually made it more vulnerable and I went from a beautiful shoebox to a crazy weird bacterial surface.

Check thrift stores or craigslist for cookers lots of people find them for like five bucks. Mine was by far the best thing I’ve bought in years not just for growing but I had no idea how easy it was to make great food in these one pots. I went from mostly frozen junk to tons of chicken rice vegetable mixes and stuff like that. Just throw the stuff in hit the button and come back in an hour.


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Re: First-Time Brown Rice Flour TEK Question / Pic [Re: A.k.a]
    #26433956 - 01/14/20 08:39 PM (4 years, 15 days ago)

A couple more questions for experienced growers using the BRF Tek. I've just today transferred my cakes to the SGFC, more than two months after inoculating my jars. The plastic bin I'm using is not transparent; it turned out the original (transparent) one I bought was too cheap and kept splitting every time I drilled a hole into it, even when drilling into a wooden backing. So I have a gray Sterilite bin. My questions are two: (1) when fanning the cakes several times a day, should I take the top off first? (2) should I remove the top when I have the grow-light on? I question whether they'll get enough light with the top on.


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Re: First-Time Brown Rice Flour TEK Question / Pic [Re: BigSkyMind]
    #26434046 - 01/14/20 09:47 PM (4 years, 15 days ago)

If your SGFC is completely Grey, thats going to be an issue. Id suggest putting a bulb inside the chamber and zie tieing it to the lid. Or u can make a window on your lid then add some with some clear plexiglass/hard plastic. If not, your shrooms wont get enough light.

If thats too much trouble, u may need another tub to make a SGFC.

Couple tricks to avoid cracking: Drill slow, dont apply pressure, let the drill pull itself thru, use a glass bit (used for drilling glass). Also it may help to heat up the tub with a portable fan heater to soften up the plastic a bit.


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Re: First-Time Brown Rice Flour TEK Question / Pic [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26434058 - 01/14/20 09:57 PM (4 years, 15 days ago)

I have a cheaply made incubator that consists of two large totes (90qt or more) and an aquarium heater.  Basically you put a few gallons of water in the bottom of one tote, along with the aquarium heater, then you take the other tote and place it in the water in the first tote.  Set the aquarium heater to 80 degrees and throw whatever you want to colonize into the tote.  Put the lid on and you're good to go.  If your living conditions are a little on the cold side then you can take a bath towel or two and cover it up for extra credit.  This method has helped me quite a bit.


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    #26434063 - 01/14/20 10:01 PM (4 years, 15 days ago)

With a little bit of searching you can build one for about 25 bucks.  I can fit 15 qt jars standing up and other 10 or so on their sides on top of that.


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Re: First-Time Brown Rice Flour TEK Question / Pic [Re: The_Wizzerd]
    #26434065 - 01/14/20 10:02 PM (4 years, 15 days ago)

BigSky needs a SGFC not an incubation chamber (which are outdated).


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Re: First-Time Brown Rice Flour TEK Question / Pic [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26434082 - 01/14/20 10:08 PM (4 years, 15 days ago)

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BigSky needs a SGFC not an incubation chamber (which are outdated).



How do you suggest colonizing jars then?  I've heard you get consistently faster times at higher temps.  Not to mention I've noticed consistently faster times since I've used mine.  I'm not trying to contradict you, but I must be missing something.


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Re: First-Time Brown Rice Flour TEK Question / Pic [Re: The_Wizzerd]
    #26434090 - 01/14/20 10:13 PM (4 years, 15 days ago)

When I did cakes I used saran wrap as my cover for my SGFC.  It takes two strips placed together to be enough to cover the top but it's clear and can get plenty of light.  And it's easy to remove when you need to fan and mist.


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Re: First-Time Brown Rice Flour TEK Question / Pic [Re: The_Wizzerd]
    #26434102 - 01/14/20 10:18 PM (4 years, 15 days ago)

By using an incubator, u run the risk of growing infectious molds/bacteria, which is why its considered outdated/bad practice.

I have found that Incubators are nice for cold areas or if your grow area is semi cold (50F or less).

At 60F and up, jars grow just fine.

U can use an incubator if u wish, just know there are risks in doing so.


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    #26434130 - 01/14/20 10:33 PM (4 years, 15 days ago)

Thank you Wizzerd for this idea. What kind of results did you get? I like the simplicity of it.

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When I did cakes I used saran wrap as my cover for my SGFC.  It takes two strips placed together to be enough to cover the top but it's clear and can get plenty of light.  And it's easy to remove when you need to fan and mist.




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    #26434146 - 01/14/20 10:44 PM (4 years, 15 days ago)

I had pretty decent results using that method for my SGFC.  I dont have pics anymore, otherwise I would share them.  But it made it pretty easy to see what is going on inside the SGFC without having to open the lid.


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Re: First-Time Brown Rice Flour TEK Question / Pic [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26434150 - 01/14/20 10:49 PM (4 years, 15 days ago)

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By using an incubator, u run the risk of growing infectious molds/bacteria, which is why its considered outdated/bad practice.

I have found that Incubators are nice for cold areas or if your grow area is semi cold (50F or less).

At 60F and up, jars grow just fine.

U can use an incubator if u wish, just know there are risks in doing so.




I guess I never thought about the higher temps being a concern for other stuff to grow.  My apartment is a little on the cooler side where I live and theres times when i have trouble keeping my ambient temp above 65 degrees when it gets really cold outside.  All I can say is that my incubator has sped up my times for sure.


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Re: First-Time Brown Rice Flour TEK Question / Pic [Re: The_Wizzerd]
    #26434178 - 01/14/20 11:27 PM (4 years, 14 days ago)

If your apartment is cold/cool, then an incubator is not a bad idea. Just dont use an incubator during late Spring or Summer cause it will be too hot inside the jars!


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Re: First-Time Brown Rice Flour TEK Question / Pic [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26440779 - 01/18/20 08:37 PM (4 years, 11 days ago)

Here’s a pic of my cakes that went into the SGFC last Tuesday. I’ve been misting them 3x a day, and fanning them about five times a day. Looking for input from cultivators experienced with the BRF Tek. Waiting for pinning to happen. The only thing I notice is some areas of whiteness, which my book suggests could be a sign of too-high humidity. I’m keeping the temp in here between 70F and 77, though overnight it goes down to between 63 and 68. I’m hoping the overnight lows won’t prevent fruiting; my guidebook says these won’t start pinning unless temps are around 75F.



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Re: First-Time Brown Rice Flour TEK Question / Pic [Re: BigSkyMind]
    #26440839 - 01/18/20 09:19 PM (4 years, 11 days ago)

your book...is wrong. search pf teks here on shroomery. there is a ton of bad info out there but if you use this site’s search function limiting it to threads from only the past three to five years you’ll be alright.

here, i did it for you. this is the thread i was thinking of.

ziran’s updated pf tek


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    #26440901 - 01/18/20 10:07 PM (4 years, 11 days ago)

Thanks for the link. After reading it, and another embedded in it, it seems I was under the mistaken impression my cakes are getting too much moisture; now, if anything it seems they aren't getting enough. It helped to look at some pictures of cakes--dry, moist, and glistening with moisture.

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your book...is wrong. search pf teks here on shroomery. there is a ton of bad info out there but if you use this site’s search function limiting it to threads from only the past three to five years you’ll be alright.

here, i did it for you. this is the thread i was thinking of.

ziran’s updated pf tek






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Re: First-Time Brown Rice Flour TEK Question / Pic [Re: BigSkyMind]
    #26440905 - 01/18/20 10:13 PM (4 years, 11 days ago)

Remember to never mist on a schedule. You mist as needed. Evaporation triggers pinning and misting the SGFC as needed is the best way to do that.

That being said, its important to not let your SGFC completely dry out. Theres an area in the middle of wet and dry you want to be. I call it the "moist" level. Check that your perlite is still moist then mist your cakes/SGFC until it looks like morning dew on grass then leave it. Checking on it 3 times a day is a good amount :thumbup:

Your various ambient temps in your room are ideal for fruiting so congrats :thumbup:

Also, trim back your tin foil squares to a circle around the cakes. It helps the perlite work its magic around the cakes.


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Re: First-Time Brown Rice Flour TEK Question / Pic [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26441265 - 01/19/20 07:28 AM (4 years, 10 days ago)

Kinda looks like a pin forming in the middle of the top of that cake to the top right. Could just be myc poking out though.


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    #26444635 - 01/21/20 10:53 AM (4 years, 8 days ago)

It's been seven days today since I transferred the cakes into the SGFC and still no sign of pinning. I put the thermometer inside the chamber this morning to check on RH and in about 10 minutes it went up to 99. But after another thirty or forty minutes it is at 84, with a temp of 74.5. Temperature has averaged 70 - 77, sometimes dipping to low 60s between 12 and 7:30 a.m. I have been misting thrice daily, fanning 3 - 5 times daily. Isn't the RH optimal at 90 - 95? Should I be misting more each time I mist? Just in the last 48 hours since last posting I've boosted the amount of misting I do each time, from about 10 pumps to closer to 40.


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Re: First-Time Brown Rice Flour TEK Question / Pic [Re: BigSkyMind]
    #26444651 - 01/21/20 11:03 AM (4 years, 8 days ago)

I’m far from a cake expert but that sounds like a lot of misting.


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