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Re: Psilocybe pronounciation (Stamets) [Re: ToxicMan]
#26359388 - 12/03/19 03:26 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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ToxicMan said: Shiitake is an easy one, since it's Japanese.
Yeah, curiously enough single Japanese words are pretty easy to say when you know them, but understanding the language... oh my.
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As with all Japanese, there should be *no* emphasis on any syllable.
Usually ending up with a slight emphasis on "ta" in my case.
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Re: Psilocybe pronounciation (Stamets) [Re: Anglerfish]
#26360032 - 12/03/19 09:26 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Regardless of the vote, either are acceptable & interchanging them is alright in my experience.
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mu5h13
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JesusOnAdderall said: wacky shiitake would work if we can get everyone to agree on how shiitake should be pronounced
I'm so gonna change how I pronounce shiitake just to make that work
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nooneman


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Re: Psilocybe pronounciation (Stamets) [Re: veryverycold]
#26365378 - 12/06/19 03:58 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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sill - oh - s eye b. Which is I assume how "SILL-oh-sybe" is pronounced. There's no real right or wrong linguistically in this situation, and I like the way this one sounds best. Especially when pared with the names of the species like sill - oh - s eye b - cube - en - sis. Just sounds the best to me.
Pronouncing the ee on the end always sounds a little silly to me.
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Re: Psilocybe pronounciation (Stamets) [Re: nooneman]
#26365387 - 12/06/19 04:03 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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nooneman said: There's no real right or wrong linguistically in this situation
Oh, there most certainly is.
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nooneman


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Re: Psilocybe pronounciation (Stamets) [Re: Tangich]
#26365399 - 12/06/19 04:09 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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No, there's not. One way to pronounce any word is not inherently any better than any other way to pronounce a word. Otherwise all the different accents and ways people pronounce words would be fighting each other, and there is no objective basis on which to make the determination that one is better than another, because there is no one correct way to pronounce things, there's just a lot of different ways people pronounce things.
Language is always changing and moving and the way we pronounce things today is not even the same as the way that people pronounced things in the past. It is a social construct that develops fluidly over time and has no established or set rules other than the rules that exist in the minds of the people who speak the language in a given area. And since there is no way to say that one area is any more "correct" or "right" in its pronunciation (especially considering that even within a given area the way that words are said changes over time) there is also therefore no way to judge one way to pronounce things as better than another.
Unless you want to say that one is objectively better than another for no good reason, in which case I propose that my way to pronounce things is better, but that's obviously crazy and subjective. So is the whole thing.
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Tangich


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Re: Psilocybe pronounciation (Stamets) [Re: nooneman] 1
#26365415 - 12/06/19 04:17 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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So you can pronounce any language the way you like? You can pronounce French words like English? Spanish words like English? And you'd be perfectly fine if a Serbian speaker pronounced English words like they were in Serbian? Yeah, I bet not. Each language follows it's general rules, grammar, pronounciation etc. Accents are one thing, but other speakers of the same language must be able to understand you. Being an arrogant American (not saying you are, but in general) is no excuse for butcheeing a language the way you want.
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