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Re: Shoeboxes bruising blue may be matted [Re: Failboat]
    #26364570 - 12/06/19 09:08 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Here’s mine pinning through the blue myc. It def had some bacteria in it to start with.



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Re: Shoeboxes bruising blue may be matted [Re: Smartattack]
    #26364571 - 12/06/19 09:12 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Much misinformation this thread. Not casing and introducing fruiting early causes problems? Many of us grow tubs packed with fruits doing this very thing every day. Not saying I know op's problem but it's not either of those things. Also ditch the wax paper, also a proven unnecessary weird thing.



What I was mostly saying is for this situation he should add a top layer of some sort and ditch the wax paper as you said. Not casing and early FAE in general does not cause problems unless it gets too xtreme


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Re: Shoeboxes bruising blue may be matted [Re: Failboat]
    #26364582 - 12/06/19 09:19 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I believe I did over most then as a result of the surface being over misted the sub wasnt taking in water anymore. The bottom water helped well see how they look when I get home

Came home to some pins on the one shoebox, the few mushies that were growing on the other got bigger, and I think all have knotting. Someone correct me if I'm mistaken please



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Re: Shoeboxes bruising blue may be matted [Re: Failboat]
    #26364841 - 12/06/19 11:47 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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:whathesaid: I suspect it was misted to death.




Moisture does not prevent pinning. 


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Re: HELP. Shoeboxes bruising blue may be matted [Re: True43]
    #26364965 - 12/06/19 12:47 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Shoeboxes bruising blue may be matted [Re: Nichrome]
    #26364997 - 12/06/19 12:58 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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:whathesaid: I suspect it was misted to death.




Moisture does not prevent pinning. 



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There's a difference between your sub being moist and your sub having standing water on top of it. You need evaporation, not condensation. The picture of the LC is an example of moist sub, the broth solution.


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Re: Shoeboxes bruising blue may be matted [Re: Failboat]
    #26365102 - 12/06/19 01:39 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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:whathesaid: I suspect it was misted to death.




Moisture does not prevent pinning. 



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There's a difference between your sub being moist and your sub having standing water on top of it. You need evaporation, not condensation. The picture of the LC is an example of moist sub, the broth solution.




This "matted" mycelium developed on top of the water. This one actually matted and fruited out 4 times with a full swirl between. Matting is a response to water level but does not prevent pinning. It just adapts its behavior to create its own micro climate. Water inherently is not detrimental. Other things like competitive/pathogenic bacteria present in the water or caused by the wet environment can be though...

BRF is very available nutrition. Once your cakes are colonized you could just lay them out in your tub whole but next to each other touching at the edges. A 1 inch layer of bulk/casing at the bottom. Fill in the holes imbetween and case on top 1/4". Results will rival grain tubs. Breaking cakes apart only delays the inevitable (fruiting!) by some days as the mycelium has to recolonize and fight off (in this case succumb to) the plethora of organisms you introduced when breaking them up. each jar is a colony on its own with its own bio-rhythm, immune system, and behavioral tendencies. Good luck and keep at it. There is only time.

It is the competitive organisms not the water that are the issue with primordia forming in a healthy fashion.


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Re: Shoeboxes bruising blue may be matted [Re: Nichrome]
    #26365125 - 12/06/19 01:49 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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