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Re: Is this Biden speech for real? (kids, hairy legs, roaches) [Re: pixelpopper] * 3
    #26363531 - 12/05/19 05:38 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm all for taking the billionaires' shit via gunpoint

let's do this




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Re: Is this Biden speech for real? (kids, hairy legs, roaches) [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26363780 - 12/05/19 07:47 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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If you have studied this like you seem to have you should know that billionaires do not pay they're taxes, they find tax loopholes set up there by the very gvmt they say they oppose, it's a sad sick little greedy game played by uber wealthy people, and the families keep the wealth by not paying an inheritance tax and other things I'm sure. Yes, some billionaires make money off stepping on heads/human rights under the guise of "we're helping those people get out of poverty and improving their way of life and building communities" etc... Do you honestly think incredibly wealthy people/corps/businesses pay a fair tax? LOLOL!!!



there are plenty of billionaires and millionaires who arent opposed to big government. Bill gates is a big lefty. acctually alot of rich people are left winged.

people look at this as an argument of rich vs poor. its not. its libertarian vs authoritarian. and there are people from accross the economic spectrum on both sides.

you're right there are plenty of rich people who lobby for their interests. if you are going to use your political influence as a voter to steal their money at gunpoint then of course they will use their influence to get out of paying that. thats the problem with giving power to the govenrment. it doesnt always work out the eay you want and if you can use the govenrment for your interests so can other people.

tell me how they "step on the heads" of people. they offer a job and people voluntarily enter into a deal with them. if they didnt risk their money by investing, or think up and implement an idea that is revolutionary then nobody would be producing anything and nobody would have a job with stable wages.

Einstein didnt come up with his theories because a government told him too. Bill gates and Steeve jobs/wozniak didnt create their revolutionary countries because a government told them to. most good things have come from private individuals and parties who invested their time and resources in things that ended up paying off. most new drugs are developed in the private sector.

if I spend 50 000 on a location and another 10 000 on inventory and another 10 000 on supplies and start a convenience store that may fail and lose all my money, then I hire you and pay even more money to pay your wages so you can work for me have I ripped you off and stood on your head?

If the business takes off should I split the profits with you 50/50? after I went through all the legal stuff, registering my business, getting insurance, risking my money, ect. should you get the same share for stovking the shelves and managing the register?

If you want a bigger share of the profits then you start the business, you risk the money, you execute the business plan if you rhink its so easy to pull off. nobody is stopping you from taking on risks.


being an entrepreneur can really pay off, but it means alot of instability, insecurity and risk. so if you are so upset that someone could dare to have more money than you then why dont you take on some of the risk, learn about business and make your fortune?

if you arent willing to do that then you should be greatful that you could be provided with a stable job and income from someone who worked to make that possible.

explain to me why an inheretence tax is just. how exactly does that even seem remotely fair or smart?

If I work m whole life to give a good life to my children and thats my sole motivation for doing so, then I shouldnt be able to give it to them? then why wouldnt I just squander my money on momentary pleasure? Why would I be responsible?

you want to punnish people for being productive and reward people for being less productive.

I understand lots of people dont want that stressful life style that comes along with a high paying source of income or arent skilled/knowledgable to make it work. thats fine. but dont complain that you cant have someone elses money because they were able to produce more than you.


even billionaires who dont give alot to charity have given a hell of alot more than either of us.


why do you deserve weqlth that someone else produced?

should everyone not be entitled to their own labour just like you?


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Re: Is this Biden speech for real? (kids, hairy legs, roaches) [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #26364505 - 12/06/19 08:14 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I know you're partly right, and maybe mostly. I do not study economics, politics, or sociology. No matter what people can not be made to act morally right, especially when it comes to money. It's a catch 22 really. Damned if you do, damned of you don't. I really can't complain much because I don't vote. I do pay taxes and work a 9-5 job with a license and degree. I did go back to school at 42yo so I could have a better paying job and life.

There are a great number of people it seems that do not want even a "middle class" type of lifestyle, and they see how much money it takes to even live semi comfortably is being "taken away" in a sense due to inflation rising but not their pittance/wages. Then they see these corps and business people making all these billions and have no idea how much risk and hard work some of those people have to go through to get there.

There is a lot of people that have had these things (businesses etc...) handed to them through the family/parents etc...through inheritance or just more opportunities due to not having to pay for school (but their parents did) and other ways, and that can make them feel helpless and not want to even try to do anything, and that's on them mostly.

Some people just want a simple life without all that BS that money can bring. The people that do have multiple millions like walmart, fast food corps, etc...should pay the workers like 18-20 bucks an hour to start. They should also stop the BS of not giving full time hours to get out of paying insurance and things like that. It's set up for the very wealthy to stay very wealthy when they can give more and not be hurt one little bit. Even if I made say 5 million a year and only got like 750-1 mill of it, I would consider that EXTREMELY successful and good, most or all people in that bracket (and higher) do not, they want 4.5 mill and fuck all the others around them that the business contains.

Corporations are set up to squash any competition and make as much as possible with an increase in profits no matter what. The last restaurant I worked for was a cool river, they closed it because the rent in the area went up too much and they didn't want to make as little as they were, even though there were profits, and it was helping people live a comfy life, they closed it anyway and said the concept was done etc...

You're right, I don't want to take the risks necessary to make millions or billions, and I don't want to have to fire people that aren't making me more money even though they may be productive, and have to hang around the cutthroat people involved in big business. Money and power are drugs, very addictive insidious drugs!


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Re: Is this Biden speech for real? (kids, hairy legs, roaches) [Re: psi]
    #26364552 - 12/06/19 08:53 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Biden then went on to challenge the man to a push-up contest.

"You want to check my shape, man, let's do pushups together here, man," Biden told him. "Let's run. Let's do whatever you want to do. Let's take an IQ test. Ok?"




Wtf?? This was today.. :rofl:





:lol: That's hilarious.




Biden: "I know you're not voting for me, you're too old to vote for me"

Crowd: ":wooyeah: WOOOOOOOOOOOOO"

wtf are they even cheering, his senility?


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Re: Is this Biden speech for real? (kids, hairy legs, roaches) [Re: feevers]
    #26364654 - 12/06/19 10:01 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Biden trying to say his son having that job in the Ukraine wasn’t corrupt is absolute garbage.

That entire exchange may have been staged. Biden was acting like he wanted to chest up, kek

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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

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Re: Is this Biden speech for real? (kids, hairy legs, roaches) [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #26364693 - 12/06/19 10:20 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

"Biden melts down, fat shames voter after raising Hunter corruption"



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Re: Is this Biden speech for real? (kids, hairy legs, roaches) [Re: qman]
    #26364753 - 12/06/19 11:01 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I think everyone should get seats to any events Biden will be at and provoke him. We need more of this


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Re: Is this Biden speech for real? (kids, hairy legs, roaches) [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #26364769 - 12/06/19 11:08 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Have you guys seen that movie Bulworth? I wonder if that's his playbook here. Crazy old white politician convinces black voters he's hip.


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Re: Is this Biden speech for real? (kids, hairy legs, roaches) [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26364817 - 12/06/19 11:31 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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I know you're partly right, and maybe mostly. I do not study economics, politics, or sociology. No matter what people can not be made to act morally right, especially when it comes to money. It's a catch 22 really. Damned if you do, damned of you don't. I really can't complain much because I don't vote. I do pay taxes and work a 9-5 job with a license and degree. I did go back to school at 42yo so I could have a better paying job and life.

There are a great number of people it seems that do not want even a "middle class" type of lifestyle, and they see how much money it takes to even live semi comfortably is being "taken away" in a sense due to inflation rising but not their pittance/wages. Then they see these corps and business people making all these billions and have no idea how much risk and hard work some of those people have to go through to get there.

There is a lot of people that have had these things (businesses etc...) handed to them through the family/parents etc...through inheritance or just more opportunities due to not having to pay for school (but their parents did) and other ways, and that can make them feel helpless and not want to even try to do anything, and that's on them mostly.

Some people just want a simple life without all that BS that money can bring. The people that do have multiple millions like walmart, fast food corps, etc...should pay the workers like 18-20 bucks an hour to start. They should also stop the BS of not giving full time hours to get out of paying insurance and things like that. It's set up for the very wealthy to stay very wealthy when they can give more and not be hurt one little bit. Even if I made say 5 million a year and only got like 750-1 mill of it, I would consider that EXTREMELY successful and good, most or all people in that bracket (and higher) do not, they want 4.5 mill and fuck all the others around them that the business contains.

Corporations are set up to squash any competition and make as much as possible with an increase in profits no matter what. The last restaurant I worked for was a cool river, they closed it because the rent in the area went up too much and they didn't want to make as little as they were, even though there were profits, and it was helping people live a comfy life, they closed it anyway and said the concept was done etc...

You're right, I don't want to take the risks necessary to make millions or billions, and I don't want to have to fire people that aren't making me more money even though they may be productive, and have to hang around the cutthroat people involved in big business. Money and power are drugs, very addictive insidious drugs!



most money is earned not inhereted.

maybe its not cost effective to pay every employee 18 an hour for everyone. maybe if they had to do that the business would go under. an extra dollar or two doesnt sound like alot but multi million dollar companies can have tens or hundreds of thousands of employees. besides if you dont like it, dont work for that employers. if nobody were willing to work for him he couldnt be rich.

businesses dont accgually need to crush competition if they are a good business. I'f they have a superior product or service (or lower prices, or more convenience or some competitive edge) they wont need to crush any competition because people want what they have. I agree some people do gain an unfair advantage over the competition. but you know where they do that? often from the government who can stifle comepetion with red tape or even bail a company which should fail out with taxpayer dollars. I think thats absolutely awful. and thats the government not rich people. sure they benefit but the govetnment levied those taxes and handed them over.

imagine we had a gas industry that everyone wanted to decrease reliance on and we knoe that we can get our power from nuclear energy because France already currently gets most of their energy from nuclear power. its not some experiemental dream like solar. it can acctually work now and we know it. but the government wont deregulate nuclear energy to allow people to do what would be common sense if the government had no say in what two parties do in order to produce things and trade with eachother. there are many examples like that.



It's not wrong to fire someone who isnt making you money. if you keep that employee the business may fail. if someome worked very hard and took on risk to open a business should they allow someone who isnt doing his fair share pull them down into bankrupcy when there are plenty of other jobs they may be good at?

oh and btw rich people pay a disproportionate amount of taxes. there may be some tax cuts available but rich people still pay the majority even with those.


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Re: Is this Biden speech for real? (kids, hairy legs, roaches) [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #26364866 - 12/06/19 12:01 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Just prior to President Obama's 2014 State of the Union Address, media[7] reported that the top wealthiest 1% possess 40% of the nation's wealth; the bottom 80% own 7%; similarly, but later, the media reported, the "richest 1 percent in the United States now own more additional income than the bottom 90 percent".[8]

The gap between the top 10% and the middle class is over 1,000%; that increases another 1,000% for the top 1%. The average employee "needs to work more than a month to earn what the CEO earns in one hour."[9] Although different from income inequality, the two are related. In Inequality for All—a 2013 documentary with Robert Reich in which he argued that income inequality is the defining issue for the United States—

Reich states that 95% of economic gains went to the top 1% net worth (HNWI) since 2009 when the recovery allegedly started.[10] More recently, in 2017, an Oxfam study found that eight rich people, six of them Americans, own as much combined wealth as half the human race.[11][12][13]
From 1989 to 2018 the top 1 percent increased its total net worth by $21 trillion. The bottom 50 percent saw its net worth decrease by $900 billion over the same period. In 2018 dollars.[14]


A 2011 study found that US citizens across the political spectrum dramatically underestimate the current US wealth inequality and would prefer a far more egalitarian distribution of wealth.[15]

Wealth is usually not used for daily expenditures or factored into household budgets, but combined with income it comprises the family's total opportunity to secure a desired stature and standard of living, or pass their class status along to one's children.[16] Moreover, wealth provides for both short- and long-term financial security, bestows social prestige, and contributes to political power, and can be used to produce more wealth.[17]

Hence, wealth possesses a psychological element that awards people the feeling of agency, or the ability to act. The accumulation of wealth grants more options and eliminates restrictions about how one can live life. Dennis Gilbert asserts that the standard of living of the working and middle classes is dependent upon income and wages, while the rich tend to rely on wealth,

distinguishing them from the vast majority of Americans.[18] A September 2014 study by Harvard Business School declared that the growing disparity between the very wealthy and the lower and middle classes is no longer sustainable.[19]
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Distribution of net worth in the United States (2007).[20] The net wealth of many people in the lowest 20% is negative because of debt.[20] By 2014 the wealth gap deepened.[citation needed]
  Top 1% (35%)
  Next 4% (27%)
  Next 5% (11%)
  Next 10% (12%)
  Upper Middle 20% (11%)
  Middle 20% (4%)
  Bottom 40% (<1%)
Average and median household income by age group

In 2007, the top 20% wealthiest possessed 80% of all financial assets.[21] In 2007 the richest 1% of the American population owned 35% of the country's total wealth, and the next 19% owned 51%. Thus, the top 20% of Americans owned 86% of the country's wealth and the bottom 80% of the population owned 14%.

In 2011, financial inequality was greater than inequality in total wealth, with the top 1% of the population owning 43%, the next 19% of Americans owning 50%, and the bottom 80% owning 7%.[22] However, after the Great Recession which started in 2007, the share of total wealth owned by the top 1% of the population grew from 35% to 37%, and that owned by the top 20% of Americans grew from 86% to 88%. The Great Recession also caused a drop of 36% in median household wealth, but a drop of only 11% for the top 1%, further widening the gap between the top 1% and the bottom 99%


According to PolitiFact and others, in 2011 the 400 wealthiest Americans have more wealth than half of all Americans combined.[24][25] Inherited wealth may help explain why many Americans who have become rich may have had a substantial head start.[26][27] In September 2012, according to the Institute for Policy Studies, over 60 percent of the Forbes richest 400 Americans grew up in substantial privilege.[28]



Now tell me how taxing those ultra rich who clearly mostly inherited their (according to Forbes) wealth will not make a dent. It's simply ludicrous to think that most of them made it through sheer work alone, they (most of them) had help or were able to turn what little they did have into an empire. Empires/corps and huge multi million/billionaires need to pay thier fair share. If a person/company has 10 billion, why shouldn't they pay at least half (I say 90% and they're STILL a fucking billionaire!) of that to the system, workers, taxes, etc...?


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Re: Is this Biden speech for real? (kids, hairy legs, roaches) [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26364889 - 12/06/19 12:17 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

"Now tell me how taxing those ultra rich who clearly mostly inherited their (according to Forbes) wealth will not make a dent. It's simply ludicrous to think that most of them made it through sheer work alone, they (most of them) had help or were able to turn what little they did have into an empire. Empires/corps and huge multi million/billionaires need to pay thier fair share. If a person/company has 10 billion, why shouldn't they pay at least half (I say 90% and they're STILL a fucking billionaire!) of that to the system, workers, taxes, etc...?"

you say according to forbes but you showed absolutely no proof. among all those numbers and figures it didnt say mosy wealth is inhereted. and I accrually found an article from Forbes that claims the opposiye of what you stated.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/rainerzitelmann/2019/06/24/amazing-facts-that-prove-inheritance-is-mostly-overrated-as-a-reason-for-wealth/amp/

so what was that abour Forbes?

the proportion of people stay the same but the peopel dont stay the same. people move in and out of the 1% all the time.

the gap is growing but so is the economy as a whole and we are gaining innovatice technology and products all the time.

thats what happens when business is going well and the economy is improving. people get rich.

and it really shouldnt matter if the gap is growing. being upset that someone earns more than you while our lives are all improving (and so is the whole world by the way. as free market ideas spread and business spreads to other parts of the world the global extreme poverty rate has been absolutely plummeing.) is pure jealousy. 

you cant buy a waterpark. but you have access to more medecine, more products more services, and an oberall higher quality of life than any other time in history.

btw what do you mean take away 90% and they're still a billionaire? if they hit 90% income tax on everything they earned they wouldnt have become a billionaire. imagine he earned 100 000 a month. thats down to 120 000 a year. thats certainly good money but its very difficult to turn that into billions.


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Re: Is this Biden speech for real? (kids, hairy legs, roaches) [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #26364911 - 12/06/19 12:26 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

According to PolitiFact and others, in 2011 the 400 wealthiest Americans have more wealth than half of all Americans combined.[24][25] Inherited wealth may help explain why many Americans who have become rich may have had a substantial head start.[26][27] In September 2012, according to the Institute for Policy Studies, over 60 percent of the Forbes richest 400 Americans grew up in substantial privilege.[28]


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Re: Is this Biden speech for real? (kids, hairy legs, roaches) [Re: BANANA.MAN] * 1
    #26364915 - 12/06/19 12:28 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I don't think it's an issue that people are getting rich, the issue is at who's expense. The fact that wealth inequality is at a 80 year high is very problematic.

Why is the wealth inequality so high today?  Globalization, unlimited immigration and a unfair tax code. The value of labor is significantly depressed due to those policies.

People got rich in the 1940's-1990's and we had a MUCH better distribution of wealth, a strong middle class and a better overall nation.


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Re: Is this Biden speech for real? (kids, hairy legs, roaches) [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #26364916 - 12/06/19 12:29 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

The billionaires should have to actually pay and not get some lawyer to find loopholes to avoid paying, which they do, not to mention avoid paying living wages. I suggested a sliding scale, I am not too jealous because a lot comes with extreme wealth and I don't want to pay that moral/mental/social price. I am very comfy and happy where I am at in life.


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Re: Is this Biden speech for real? (kids, hairy legs, roaches) [Re: qman]
    #26364918 - 12/06/19 12:29 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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I don't think it's an issue that people are getting rich, the issue is at who's expense. The fact that wealth inequality is a 80 year high is very problematic.

Why is the wealth inequality so high today?  Globalization, unlimited immigration and a unfair tax code. The value of labor is significantly depressed due to those policies.

People got rich in the 1940's-1990's and we had a MUCH better distribution of wealth, a strong middle class and a better overall nation.



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Re: Is this Biden speech for real? (kids, hairy legs, roaches) [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26364928 - 12/06/19 12:34 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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The billionaires should have to actually pay and not get some lawyer to find loopholes to avoid paying, which they do, not to mention avoid paying living wages. I suggested a sliding scale, I am not too jealous because a lot comes with extreme wealth and I don't want to pay that moral/mental/social price. I am very comfy and happy where I am at in life.




Paying taxes on stolen wealth is hardly noble in my opinion. The same goes with buying debt (bonds) from the money not being paid in taxes. It's called creating debt slaves, it's been done since the beginning to time.

It's really not that complicated, dirty money buys off government to favor the wealthy and the wealthy buy even more influence to gain even more wealth and inequality.


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Re: Is this Biden speech for real? (kids, hairy legs, roaches) [Re: qman]
    #26364945 - 12/06/19 12:40 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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The billionaires should have to actually pay and not get some lawyer to find loopholes to avoid paying, which they do, not to mention avoid paying living wages. I suggested a sliding scale, I am not too jealous because a lot comes with extreme wealth and I don't want to pay that moral/mental/social price. I am very comfy and happy where I am at in life.




Paying taxes on stolen wealth is hardly noble in my opinion. The same goes with buying debt (bonds) from the money not being paid in taxes. It's called creating debt slaves, it's been done since the beginning to time.

It's really not that complicated, dirty money buys off government to favor the wealthy and the wealthy buy even more influence to gain even more wealth and inequality.



*SIGH* I know, and I don't even know much, but this is true, and will probably never stop.


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Re: Is this Biden speech for real? (kids, hairy legs, roaches) [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26364983 - 12/06/19 12:52 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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qman said:
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The billionaires should have to actually pay and not get some lawyer to find loopholes to avoid paying, which they do, not to mention avoid paying living wages. I suggested a sliding scale, I am not too jealous because a lot comes with extreme wealth and I don't want to pay that moral/mental/social price. I am very comfy and happy where I am at in life.




Paying taxes on stolen wealth is hardly noble in my opinion. The same goes with buying debt (bonds) from the money not being paid in taxes. It's called creating debt slaves, it's been done since the beginning to time.

It's really not that complicated, dirty money buys off government to favor the wealthy and the wealthy buy even more influence to gain even more wealth and inequality.



*SIGH* I know, and I don't even know much, but this is true, and will probably never stop.




It can stop, but people must be willing to hit the streets and protest.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/france-braces-severe-disruption-mass-strike-protests-over-pensions-n1096316

People in Europe fight for everything they have, people in the US aren't unified enough to form protests against the government and The Elite.

Just wait until the fiscal austerity starts, it's coming very soon.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/11/14/senate-democrats-join-gop-back-automatic-austerity-bill-would-gut-social-programs


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Re: Is this Biden speech for real? (kids, hairy legs, roaches) [Re: qman] * 1
    #26365060 - 12/06/19 01:19 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Anyone who has billions of dollars or more is a fucking criminal

Fact.

And probably also a criminal with millions.

And not the cool kind of criminal that grows shroomz. The kind that is fucking this world up.


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Re: Is this Biden speech for real? (kids, hairy legs, roaches) [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26365091 - 12/06/19 01:34 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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According to PolitiFact and others, in 2011 the 400 wealthiest Americans have more wealth than half of all Americans combined.[24][25] Inherited wealth may help explain why many Americans who have become rich may have had a substantial head start.[26][27] In September 2012, according to the Institute for Policy Studies, over 60 percent of the Forbes richest 400 Americans grew up in substantial privilege.[28]



thats doesnt mean that their wealth was laregly inherited. if someone grows up with a household income of 500 000 a year and inheret 1 000 000, if they grow their fortune to 10 000 000 was most of their wealth earned or inhereted?

they grew up in substantial privledge but most of their welath (infact the vast majority) was still earned in this case. so that data is far too vauge.

and I think you're missing an amazing point about economic mobility. almost 40% of the 400 richest americans did not grow up in substantial privledge (id also like to see what they define as substantial privledge as that no doubt affects the interpretation of the data but either way my point stands) that shows that the American dream is real. there is mobility. you can go from poor or middle class to one of the 400 richest people in the country. Thats incredible and was not the case for most of human history.


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