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OfflineTarutaru
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2nd complete failure
    #26364158 - 12/06/19 02:46 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

First grow completely failed.  After 2 mo ths some cakes,  and a monotub never fruited.
Now i have a monotub sitting for a month and not fruiti.g
Wbs to coir. Followed teks on this site to the letter.  Smells good.  Colonized quickly.  I put a layer of verm on after 3 weeks.
Probably going to throw the entire hobby out in the morning.  Any suggestions before i do so?
Ive got 6500k lights.  Its a shotgun hybrid 66qt tub. 4 inch sub.  Totally new syringe from vendor.


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: Tarutaru]
    #26364163 - 12/06/19 02:50 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

helpful if you post a pic...


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: mycopanda]
    #26364169 - 12/06/19 02:54 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

:whathesaid:

Also, if you keep a log, post it here and someone can give you information on where you may have gone wrong. Unfortunately we have little information to go on.

If you are serious about this hobby, not just growing to use but because you enjoy the process, I’d suggest a step back. Try out the PF Tek and make some cakes. Almost foolproof and once you see your cakes fruiting, it will reinvigorate your passion for the hobby.

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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: Socrateshroom]
    #26364171 - 12/06/19 02:56 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Tried cakes.  They sat in the shotgun chamber for 2 months and never fruited.  Misted and fanned 3 times a day.
The current one just looks like vermiculate since i sprinkled a layer on.  I mean it just looks like any other emaculate monotub.  When I say I followed directions to the letter I mean it.


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: mycopanda]
    #26364173 - 12/06/19 02:57 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Quit using syringes to cakes and you’ll have some success. Nearly all mold mycelium is indistinguishable from cubensis mycelium to a beginners eye.

Did I offer you agar supplies? Pay for postage (12$ max) and I’ll send you a sleeve of sterile plates. Put good agar cultures to GRAIN SPAWN and I can damn near garuntee you success.


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: Tarutaru]
    #26364176 - 12/06/19 02:58 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I used to grow.  I have like a hundred succesful grows under my belt.  Was like 10 years ago.  Moved to a different state.  Cant get it to work.  Really depressing.  Followed the same monotub ritual I have for years.


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26364180 - 12/06/19 03:00 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Well im not actually a beginner.  Im pretty confidant its not contamed.  I also started agar plates to observe germination and they are healthy
Maybe Colorado water is no good for the hobby?


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: Tarutaru]
    #26364183 - 12/06/19 03:01 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Im being difficult.  Im quite depressed.  Ill get a pic


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: Tarutaru]
    #26364192 - 12/06/19 03:07 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: Tarutaru]
    #26364197 - 12/06/19 03:10 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)



This is a brf agar sub plate i made to monitor progress.  Its been in the fridge but as u can see its gorgeous white mycellium... Or maybe not the pic sucks.
I put a layer of verm on,  like i said,  to mitigate the humidity but to no avail.  Unfortunutly this blocks the view of the myc as well.  Smells like shrooms.  Im totally stumped.  I mean i even ordered a new syringe and its happening again.  Im at a really low point in life and i was hoping this would lift my spirits but its jist kind of shitting on me and i cant figure out why


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: Tarutaru]
    #26364199 - 12/06/19 03:12 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Too dry, too much FAE.

What’s your spawn material, and tell me exactly how you put your tubs together. IE:
Prep grain
Inoculate with agar wedge
Spawn to coir
Introduce slight FAE immediately and mist once a day

That’s my process for a tub. Give me yours and we’ll see what’s going on. I can certainly tell you it’s not “colorado water” I have multiple friends who grow cubes in Colorado, with well and city (Boulder) water.

Also idk what the fuck that picture is of. Follow an up to date tek, the info you gathered ten years ago is out of date.


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: Tarutaru]
    #26364200 - 12/06/19 03:12 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

What tek did you follow that told you to spawn wbs to coir in a "shotgun hybrid" container?

I didn't know people did that. I think I seen something pasty was doing with the hole arrangement using smaller holes and no micropore tape or polyfill but honestly I think he only had a couple here and there. That kind of chamber was designed for PF cakes but I never even liked them for pf cakes tbh.

Did you let it dry out at all? Did all the coir colonize before you put a casing on?


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: Tarutaru]
    #26364203 - 12/06/19 03:14 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Quit using syringes to cakes and you’ll have some success. Nearly all mold mycelium is indistinguishable from cubensis mycelium to a beginners eye.

Did I offer you agar supplies? Pay for postage (12$ max) and I’ll send you a sleeve of sterile plates. Put good agar cultures to GRAIN SPAWN and I can damn near garuntee you success.




Don't give up. Accept this offer, and seriously go to agar.

I promise you once you realize how good agar is and how successful it can make your grows, you'll never, ever go back.

It is the way friend! Don't get frustrated. I have done some seriously fucked up shit in my time. We all have.

Keep truckin'

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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #26364207 - 12/06/19 03:17 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Ok ill step by step what i did.
Ive had great flushes in tubs like this,  but if yall think thats the fault how can i save it?
Soaked wbs 24 hours,  simmered for 10, dried until dry to touch.  Pc for 90 min at 15 psi.  Innoc with Ms syringe from trusted vender.
At 100percent I did a g2g to some more wbs jars.  3 qt total.
Then I pasturized coir/verm/gypsum 50/40/10 ish.  This was using RRS method with the hot bath on the stove in the jars.  150ish for 1 hour 45 min
Spawned it.  Let it colonize then consolodate for a week. 
Sorry thats so choppy


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #26364211 - 12/06/19 03:18 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Yea its been like 6 months tho and starting over from scratch again.... I just dont have it in me.... Its really depressing


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #26364213 - 12/06/19 03:21 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Doc-T invented this tub.  Wont let me access his post cuz i dont have a good acxount.  Cant access my old one.  Ive got succesfull grows with this style on that account.....


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: Tarutaru]
    #26364217 - 12/06/19 03:30 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Well if anyone knows how to save this tub ill do anything.  Should i just throw it out


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26364218 - 12/06/19 03:30 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

jbgtaa said:
Quit using syringes to cakes and you’ll have some success. Nearly all mold mycelium is indistinguishable from cubensis mycelium to a beginners eye.

Did I offer you agar supplies? Pay for postage (12$ max) and I’ll send you a sleeve of sterile plates. Put good agar cultures to GRAIN SPAWN and I can damn near garuntee you success.




I just want to point out that MS syringes to cakes can be very successful. I’ve yet to have a contam problem with this method.

But I do agree that it isn’t the most effective method (personally I enjoy cakes and have been working with them exclusively)


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: Socrateshroom]
    #26364219 - 12/06/19 03:31 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Tried cakes.  That monotub was my sgfc.  They sat there for 2 months.  I redunked twice.  9 cakes. Total failure


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: Tarutaru]
    #26364224 - 12/06/19 03:43 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)


I taped up holes........ My life is i. Shambles.... I need this to work... I need some kind of happiness


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: Socrateshroom]
    #26364232 - 12/06/19 03:52 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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jbgtaa said:
Quit using syringes to cakes and you’ll have some success. Nearly all mold mycelium is indistinguishable from cubensis mycelium to a beginners eye.

Did I offer you agar supplies? Pay for postage (12$ max) and I’ll send you a sleeve of sterile plates. Put good agar cultures to GRAIN SPAWN and I can damn near garuntee you success.




I just want to point out that MS syringes to cakes can be very successful. I’ve yet to have a contam problem with this method.

But I do agree that it isn’t the most effective method (personally I enjoy cakes and have been working with them exclusively)



I mean the industry standard sample size is at least 100 subjects so unless you have successfully fruited 100 BRF jars then you evidence is anecdotal. Even if 50 out of those hundred fruited, then that’s only because it’s near impossible to use that many spores and not find a fruiting culture.

Bottom line is the worst advice a noob could see on this website is something with 5 shrooms advocating for MS inoculation. Why do you think you don’t see TCs endorsing it, when we all know full well each and everyone of us has had slight success with MS syringe injections? Because it’s not advice that need to get passed onto a noob :shrug:


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26364354 - 12/06/19 06:24 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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jbgtaa said:
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Socrateshroom said:
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jbgtaa said:
Quit using syringes to cakes and you’ll have some success. Nearly all mold mycelium is indistinguishable from cubensis mycelium to a beginners eye.

Did I offer you agar supplies? Pay for postage (12$ max) and I’ll send you a sleeve of sterile plates. Put good agar cultures to GRAIN SPAWN and I can damn near garuntee you success.




I just want to point out that MS syringes to cakes can be very successful. I’ve yet to have a contam problem with this method.

But I do agree that it isn’t the most effective method (personally I enjoy cakes and have been working with them exclusively)



I mean the industry standard sample size is at least 100 subjects so unless you have successfully fruited 100 BRF jars then you evidence is anecdotal. Even if 50 out of those hundred fruited, then that’s only because it’s near impossible to use that many spores and not find a fruiting culture.

Bottom line is the worst advice a noob could see on this website is something with 5 shrooms advocating for MS inoculation. Why do you think you don’t see TCs endorsing it, when we all know full well each and everyone of us has had slight success with MS syringe injections? Because it’s not advice that need to get passed onto a noob :shrug:




I’m not advocating it, I simply suggested it to op to try as a fall back since they are easy and pretty noob proof (this was before they mentioned that they were experienced)

I also said that it isn’t the most effective method and I know and believe it is the LEAST effective method of the tried and true methods. But it is easy, and it’s a good method to start with if you are hesitant to jump into agar work (which is superior and I highly advocate it).

I’ve had a big sample size but you are right, my evidence is anecdotal.

In short: Brf Cakes is the bottom of the barrel method. I urge others to learn about grains, agar work, etc but I’m simply saying that cakes helped me learn the hobby including proper sterile work, pressure cooking sterilization and so forth (and I like them but I’m moving away from them because, as you e stated, it isn’t a good sustainable method)

Anyway, OP, do you have a hygrometer? What is your RH and temperature like in your grow area?


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26364373 - 12/06/19 06:40 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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jbgtaa said:
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Socrateshroom said:
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jbgtaa said:
Quit using syringes to cakes and you’ll have some success. Nearly all mold mycelium is indistinguishable from cubensis mycelium to a beginners eye.

Did I offer you agar supplies? Pay for postage (12$ max) and I’ll send you a sleeve of sterile plates. Put good agar cultures to GRAIN SPAWN and I can damn near garuntee you success.




I just want to point out that MS syringes to cakes can be very successful. I’ve yet to have a contam problem with this method.

But I do agree that it isn’t the most effective method (personally I enjoy cakes and have been working with them exclusively)



I mean the industry standard sample size is at least 100 subjects so unless you have successfully fruited 100 BRF jars then you evidence is anecdotal. Even if 50 out of those hundred fruited, then that’s only because it’s near impossible to use that many spores and not find a fruiting culture.

Bottom line is the worst advice a noob could see on this website is something with 5 shrooms advocating for MS inoculation. Why do you think you don’t see TCs endorsing it, when we all know full well each and everyone of us has had slight success with MS syringe injections? Because it’s not advice that need to get passed onto a noob :shrug:




Worst thing noobs see is others noobs advice. Have you ran 100 pf jars to prove your statement?


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: BigSurMoon]
    #26364415 - 12/06/19 07:10 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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BigSurMoon said:
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jbgtaa said:
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Socrateshroom said:
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jbgtaa said:
Quit using syringes to cakes and you’ll have some success. Nearly all mold mycelium is indistinguishable from cubensis mycelium to a beginners eye.

Did I offer you agar supplies? Pay for postage (12$ max) and I’ll send you a sleeve of sterile plates. Put good agar cultures to GRAIN SPAWN and I can damn near garuntee you success.




I just want to point out that MS syringes to cakes can be very successful. I’ve yet to have a contam problem with this method.

But I do agree that it isn’t the most effective method (personally I enjoy cakes and have been working with them exclusively)



I mean the industry standard sample size is at least 100 subjects so unless you have successfully fruited 100 BRF jars then you evidence is anecdotal. Even if 50 out of those hundred fruited, then that’s only because it’s near impossible to use that many spores and not find a fruiting culture.

Bottom line is the worst advice a noob could see on this website is something with 5 shrooms advocating for MS inoculation. Why do you think you don’t see TCs endorsing it, when we all know full well each and everyone of us has had slight success with MS syringe injections? Because it’s not advice that need to get passed onto a noob :shrug:




Worst thing noobs see is others noobs advice. Have you ran 100 pf jars to prove your statement?




Please see my above comment pointing out that I am not advocating anyone do brf jars, they are the worst method but it was where I chose to start.

I am close but not at that exact number. I am sorry if anything I said was incorrect and I urge anyone reading my comments on cultivation to look to Trusted Cultivators and people with more experience than me. It was incorrect of me to tell someone to do something simply because it worked for me.

Again, if I have provided any misinformation please forgive me. It is not my intention to and I will educate myself better. Mush love to you and thank you :heart:


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: Socrateshroom]
    #26364449 - 12/06/19 07:40 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Tarutaru you are growing cubensis right? If your cakes had colonized then I would expect some sort of result. Is your tub still hydrated? If it is heavy from water still maybe it's just slow. Id keep it till it goes gross if you're desperate. Meanwhile take uo jgbtaa and others on our offers for some help with starting on agar and following TEKs to the T. If you're feeling down then relax and enjoy the zen of the process and don't expect the result to be your answer.


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: Failboat]
    #26364477 - 12/06/19 07:52 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Tape the rest of the holes up. Sounds like you’re in a super dry, cold climate. Preserve that RH!


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: feldman114]
    #26364515 - 12/06/19 08:23 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Please see my above comment pointing out that I am not advocating anyone do brf jars, they are the worst method but it was where I chose to start.

I am close but not at that exact number. I am sorry if anything I said was incorrect and I urge anyone reading my comments on cultivation to look to Trusted Cultivators and people with more experience than me. It was incorrect of me to tell someone to do something simply because it worked for me.

Again, if I have provided any misinformation please forgive me. It is not my intention to and I will educate myself better. Mush love to you and thank you :heart:




I was talking to jbgtaa, sorry if I confused.


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: BigSurMoon]
    #26364523 - 12/06/19 08:33 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Please see my above comment pointing out that I am not advocating anyone do brf jars, they are the worst method but it was where I chose to start.

I am close but not at that exact number. I am sorry if anything I said was incorrect and I urge anyone reading my comments on cultivation to look to Trusted Cultivators and people with more experience than me. It was incorrect of me to tell someone to do something simply because it worked for me.

Again, if I have provided any misinformation please forgive me. It is not my intention to and I will educate myself better. Mush love to you and thank you :heart:




I was talking to jbgtaa, sorry if I confused.




No worries!

JBGTAA was responding to me though, he was against MS to BRF jars and I was the one who mentioned to the OP to try them.

So there might be a little confusion going around. I'm assuming you are also against going MS syringe to BRF cakes.

And if so, both you and JBGTAA are Absolutely Right.
It is a noob method, and not a good method, but a method nonetheless. My sample size is big and I've had success with BRF cakes from MS BUT it has been a mix of beginners luck and the fact that it is not a significant sample size.

AGAR is the right way to go and if anyone is reading this, please go AGAR (read the sticky thread in this forum and use Bodhi's awesome flow chart post to read about everything including BOD'S Easy AF AGAR).

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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: BigSurMoon]
    #26364530 - 12/06/19 08:40 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Worst thing noobs see is others noobs advice. Have you ran 100 pf jars to prove your statement?



....what statement? I never made a claim to anything besides the well-known inefficiency of MSinjection into BRF. I even said at least half of this theoretical hundred jars would fruit.

Also idc how you feel about me, I don’t think anyone would consider me a noob. You, still using cow shit in 2019 and crying over everyone calling it inefficient seems a bit nooby though :shrug:

Obviously the PF tek is still on the front page of our site, and for good reason. It works. I didn’t deny that. All I said was injecting anything with an MS syringe (not MS agar or LC) lowers your chances of success dramatically.


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26364555 - 12/06/19 08:55 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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BigSurMoon said:
Worst thing noobs see is others noobs advice. Have you ran 100 pf jars to prove your statement?



....what statement? I never made a claim to anything besides the well-known inefficiency of MSinjection into BRF. I even said at least half of this theoretical hundred jars would fruit.

Also idc how you feel about me, I don’t think anyone would consider me a noob. You, still using cow shit in 2019 and crying over everyone calling it inefficient seems a bit nooby though :shrug:

Obviously the PF tek is still on the front page of our site, and for good reason. It works. I didn’t deny that. All I said was injecting anything with an MS syringe (not MS agar or LC) lowers your chances of success dramatically.




I am a noob! And I dont try to imply that I am not.


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: BigSurMoon]
    #26364565 - 12/06/19 09:03 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Nice, I however am not. I have a working practical knowledge of the mechanics of growing cubensis (and the newly described Natalensis) indoors and is say I’m qualified to at least share my opinion, which is probably helpful most of the time. Any piece of my advice given since I’ve been on this site has more credibility than advice from someone who uses composted shit straight from the bag for their mushrooms.


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26364586 - 12/06/19 09:21 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I feel that Doc T’s disaster of a shotgun mono hybrid will only work well in very humid climates. Drier regions will not be forgiving of the flaws in his design. I made a couple of them before I knew better and they totally sucked and were unable to maintain conditions.


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26364619 - 12/06/19 09:39 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Geez good to know lol.  Anyone have a link to a reliable monotub tek i can use next time?
Ive taped up half the holes.  Anyone think its not enough?


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: Tarutaru]
    #26364626 - 12/06/19 09:46 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I use this tek for monotubs. Easy, no guess work, minimal maintenance.

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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: Tarutaru]
    #26364632 - 12/06/19 09:49 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Geez good to know lol.  Anyone have a link to a reliable monotub tek i can use next time?
Ive taped up half the holes.  Anyone think its not enough?


The painters tape has been replaced by duct tape since the photo




Like I said, tape them all up. When you see pins, untape 1 row


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26364634 - 12/06/19 09:50 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks man.  Should i tape up more holes on mine?  Throw it away?  What do u think


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: feldman114]
    #26364636 - 12/06/19 09:50 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

ALL of them? Really?


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: Tarutaru]
    #26364641 - 12/06/19 09:54 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Tape em all. I use unmodified tubs, sonno holes and it's fine. Keep it till it fruits or goes green.


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: Failboat]
    #26364665 - 12/06/19 10:05 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Ok I taped up all the holes.  I reallt hate that i wasted all this time.  This project is probably ruined...


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: Tarutaru]
    #26364679 - 12/06/19 10:11 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Patsy's mono design can also be used as an FC, I use it for fruiting single shoeboxes for clone hunts. Surface conditions are easily maintained. Bottom is lined with perlite as per SGFC. I'd throw out that one with all of the holes in it and take pasty's advice.



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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #26364682 - 12/06/19 10:13 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

So you dont think its worth trying to save this grow?


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #26364684 - 12/06/19 10:16 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

From the photos it looks too dry. Your substrate has compressed from losing water. Try the standard monotub tek. two holes on the broadsides of the tub 4in from the bottom and make them 1.5in in diameter. Make one hole on the two other smaller sides, same diameter hole just make them 2in or 3in from the top of the tub and to the center.
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Patsy's mono design can also be used as an FC, I use it for fruiting single shoeboxes for clone hunts. Surface conditions are easily maintained. Bottom is lined with perlite as per SGFC. I'd throw out that one with all of the holes in it and take pasty's advice.



Unable to see the small beads of moisture on the surface of the su but it's there.





I've been looking for tubs that fit together like yours do. It's surprisingly not easy.


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: Tarutaru]
    #26364687 - 12/06/19 10:18 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

If you like growing mushrooms then yes it is worth the time, effort and money to keep trying. Theres a huge mycology world out there beyond Cubensis. You can do a lot once you dial in your procedure. Growing cubes is more difficult than some other species that are edible and legal. Shit some are so easy you just spray a slurry onto the ground and wait.


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: ZombiWurm]
    #26364697 - 12/06/19 10:25 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

No i mean this specific grow.  THIS monotub.  Is it worth trying to save or is it trash? Ive taped up all the holes


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26364700 - 12/06/19 10:27 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Nice, I however am not. I have a working practical knowledge of the mechanics of growing cubensis (and the newly described Natalensis) indoors and is say I’m qualified to at least share my opinion, which is probably helpful most of the time. Any piece of my advice given since I’ve been on this site has more credibility than advice from someone who uses composted shit straight from the bag for their mushrooms.[/quote



Let's see it... You should have tons of pics. I grow with shit, ouch. Your not just giving your opinion, Looking through your main threads and posts, profile doesnt really show you to be an experienced grower. And growing something that grows exactly like a cube may seem like a big accomplishment to you, grow some pans then you might have something worth bragging about.


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: Tarutaru]
    #26364717 - 12/06/19 10:39 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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No i mean this specific grow.  THIS monotub.  Is it worth trying to save or is it trash? Ive taped up all the holes




Go make a new FC for your grow it won't hurt anything, however the odds of it working out are slim at this point. While you're doing that start a new grow, have a couple on the go so that your eggs aren't all in one basket.


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: Tarutaru]
    #26364732 - 12/06/19 10:52 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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No i mean this specific grow.  THIS monotub.  Is it worth trying to save or is it trash? Ive taped up all the holes




It’s alive and well. I don’t see why it wouldn’t fruit now that conditions are favorable.
Mist lightly, then close the lid. Now walk away for 3-5 days. If you can do that, you’ll probably get some fruit.


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: feldman114]
    #26364735 - 12/06/19 10:54 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Here, this tub has been colonized for 17 days now. Does waiting so long suck? Fuck yes. But you can bet your anus I’ll get some fruit eventually.



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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: feldman114]
    #26364776 - 12/06/19 11:10 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Well thanks guys.  I wont be able to try again for at least 6 months.  Im working 18 hour days.  Slept for 2 hours last night and here I am out again heh.  Ive taped up all but one row of holes on the lid.  I was hoping for some shrooms to light a very very very dark time.  All well.  Probably what I deserve.  Well im out.  Ill give this another week or 2 then dumpster it.  Maube next year ill try again.  Later


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Re: 2nd complete failureu [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26364904 - 12/06/19 12:25 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I feel that Doc T’s disaster of a shotgun mono hybrid will only work well in very humid climates. Drier regions will not be forgiving of the flaws in his design. I made a couple of them before I knew better and they totally sucked and were unable to maintain conditions.



With the fucking clutch pasty. Hope you’re living well

OP, check out pasty’s write up of dialed in monos, uses the same principle


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Re: 2nd complete failureu [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26364914 - 12/06/19 12:28 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Yea its bookmarked.  If i try again ill use it.  Im pretty much defeated tho.  If i cant save these im done.... This mono is gonna contaminate right?  Since it was open for so long?


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Re: 2nd complete failureu [Re: Tarutaru]
    #26364938 - 12/06/19 12:37 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Ok well.... Ill take silence as a yes i guess.  I just want to know if i should go ahead and dumpster this thing


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: feldman114]
    #26364968 - 12/06/19 12:48 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Dude holy what the fuck!!! You were so right!!! Less than 10 hours later theres a pin.  No shit!!! Just one but hey jts a start!!! Gotta go back to work but ill post pics once its visable to camera


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: Tarutaru]
    #26364987 - 12/06/19 12:54 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: Failboat]
    #26365093 - 12/06/19 01:35 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I wouldn’t toss it just don’t expect too much. No need to toss something that isn’t moldy or taking up needed space.


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26365175 - 12/06/19 02:18 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I probably ruined 100 monotubs before i got the hang of this..

likely more.  eventually the mushrooms will tell you what they need.


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: trippleblack]
    #26365180 - 12/06/19 02:22 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Damn that sucks. Don’t you with you found this place on your 1st try lol?


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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: feldman114]
    #26365196 - 12/06/19 02:32 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Damn that sucks. Don’t you with you found this place on your 1st try lol?




haa...  found this place my first try and still screwed had to deal with every mistake and error you can possibly make..  but thats what makes you good and helpful.


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