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Tarutaru
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2nd complete failure
#26364158 - 12/06/19 02:46 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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First grow completely failed. After 2 mo ths some cakes, and a monotub never fruited. Now i have a monotub sitting for a month and not fruiti.g Wbs to coir. Followed teks on this site to the letter. Smells good. Colonized quickly. I put a layer of verm on after 3 weeks. Probably going to throw the entire hobby out in the morning. Any suggestions before i do so? Ive got 6500k lights. Its a shotgun hybrid 66qt tub. 4 inch sub. Totally new syringe from vendor.
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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: Tarutaru]
#26364163 - 12/06/19 02:50 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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helpful if you post a pic...
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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: mycopanda]
#26364169 - 12/06/19 02:54 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Also, if you keep a log, post it here and someone can give you information on where you may have gone wrong. Unfortunately we have little information to go on.
If you are serious about this hobby, not just growing to use but because you enjoy the process, I’d suggest a step back. Try out the PF Tek and make some cakes. Almost foolproof and once you see your cakes fruiting, it will reinvigorate your passion for the hobby.
Good luck and Mush love.
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Tarutaru
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Tried cakes. They sat in the shotgun chamber for 2 months and never fruited. Misted and fanned 3 times a day. The current one just looks like vermiculate since i sprinkled a layer on. I mean it just looks like any other emaculate monotub. When I say I followed directions to the letter I mean it.
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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: mycopanda]
#26364173 - 12/06/19 02:57 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quit using syringes to cakes and you’ll have some success. Nearly all mold mycelium is indistinguishable from cubensis mycelium to a beginners eye.
Did I offer you agar supplies? Pay for postage (12$ max) and I’ll send you a sleeve of sterile plates. Put good agar cultures to GRAIN SPAWN and I can damn near garuntee you success.
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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: Tarutaru]
#26364176 - 12/06/19 02:58 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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I used to grow. I have like a hundred succesful grows under my belt. Was like 10 years ago. Moved to a different state. Cant get it to work. Really depressing. Followed the same monotub ritual I have for years.
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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: jbgtaa]
#26364180 - 12/06/19 03:00 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well im not actually a beginner. Im pretty confidant its not contamed. I also started agar plates to observe germination and they are healthy Maybe Colorado water is no good for the hobby?
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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: Tarutaru]
#26364183 - 12/06/19 03:01 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Im being difficult. Im quite depressed. Ill get a pic
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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: Tarutaru]
#26364192 - 12/06/19 03:07 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: Tarutaru]
#26364197 - 12/06/19 03:10 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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This is a brf agar sub plate i made to monitor progress. Its been in the fridge but as u can see its gorgeous white mycellium... Or maybe not the pic sucks. I put a layer of verm on, like i said, to mitigate the humidity but to no avail. Unfortunutly this blocks the view of the myc as well. Smells like shrooms. Im totally stumped. I mean i even ordered a new syringe and its happening again. Im at a really low point in life and i was hoping this would lift my spirits but its jist kind of shitting on me and i cant figure out why
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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: Tarutaru]
#26364199 - 12/06/19 03:12 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Too dry, too much FAE.
What’s your spawn material, and tell me exactly how you put your tubs together. IE: Prep grain Inoculate with agar wedge Spawn to coir Introduce slight FAE immediately and mist once a day
That’s my process for a tub. Give me yours and we’ll see what’s going on. I can certainly tell you it’s not “colorado water” I have multiple friends who grow cubes in Colorado, with well and city (Boulder) water.
Also idk what the fuck that picture is of. Follow an up to date tek, the info you gathered ten years ago is out of date.
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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: Tarutaru]
#26364200 - 12/06/19 03:12 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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What tek did you follow that told you to spawn wbs to coir in a "shotgun hybrid" container?
I didn't know people did that. I think I seen something pasty was doing with the hole arrangement using smaller holes and no micropore tape or polyfill but honestly I think he only had a couple here and there. That kind of chamber was designed for PF cakes but I never even liked them for pf cakes tbh.
Did you let it dry out at all? Did all the coir colonize before you put a casing on?
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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: Tarutaru]
#26364203 - 12/06/19 03:14 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
jbgtaa said: Quit using syringes to cakes and you’ll have some success. Nearly all mold mycelium is indistinguishable from cubensis mycelium to a beginners eye.
Did I offer you agar supplies? Pay for postage (12$ max) and I’ll send you a sleeve of sterile plates. Put good agar cultures to GRAIN SPAWN and I can damn near garuntee you success.
Don't give up. Accept this offer, and seriously go to agar.
I promise you once you realize how good agar is and how successful it can make your grows, you'll never, ever go back.
It is the way friend! Don't get frustrated. I have done some seriously fucked up shit in my time. We all have.
Keep truckin'
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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: sh4d0ws]
#26364207 - 12/06/19 03:17 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ok ill step by step what i did. Ive had great flushes in tubs like this, but if yall think thats the fault how can i save it? Soaked wbs 24 hours, simmered for 10, dried until dry to touch. Pc for 90 min at 15 psi. Innoc with Ms syringe from trusted vender. At 100percent I did a g2g to some more wbs jars. 3 qt total. Then I pasturized coir/verm/gypsum 50/40/10 ish. This was using RRS method with the hot bath on the stove in the jars. 150ish for 1 hour 45 min Spawned it. Let it colonize then consolodate for a week. Sorry thats so choppy
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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: sh4d0ws]
#26364211 - 12/06/19 03:18 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yea its been like 6 months tho and starting over from scratch again.... I just dont have it in me.... Its really depressing
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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: sh4d0ws]
#26364213 - 12/06/19 03:21 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Doc-T invented this tub. Wont let me access his post cuz i dont have a good acxount. Cant access my old one. Ive got succesfull grows with this style on that account.....
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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: Tarutaru]
#26364217 - 12/06/19 03:30 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well if anyone knows how to save this tub ill do anything. Should i just throw it out
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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: jbgtaa]
#26364218 - 12/06/19 03:30 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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jbgtaa said: Quit using syringes to cakes and you’ll have some success. Nearly all mold mycelium is indistinguishable from cubensis mycelium to a beginners eye.
Did I offer you agar supplies? Pay for postage (12$ max) and I’ll send you a sleeve of sterile plates. Put good agar cultures to GRAIN SPAWN and I can damn near garuntee you success.
I just want to point out that MS syringes to cakes can be very successful. I’ve yet to have a contam problem with this method.
But I do agree that it isn’t the most effective method (personally I enjoy cakes and have been working with them exclusively)
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Tarutaru
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Tried cakes. That monotub was my sgfc. They sat there for 2 months. I redunked twice. 9 cakes. Total failure
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Re: 2nd complete failure [Re: Tarutaru]
#26364224 - 12/06/19 03:43 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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 I taped up holes........ My life is i. Shambles.... I need this to work... I need some kind of happiness
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