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Re: High dose of magic mushroom feels like death [Re: Aldebaran]
    #26384764 - 12/16/19 09:37 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Haha, reading some “ego-Death” posts on here recently, it may seem I’m not as far away from this headspace after all. I definitely get the ego dissolution on 3.8g dry PC B+, and sometimes the feeling of both gratitude and euphoria I sometimes get when this dissolution kicks in, is quite frankly overwhelming. I often need to sit down for five minutes to cry, and let out my gratitude.

Thank you for the links, and info. I read quite a few as a child, so need to re-read and re-interpret.

Thank you,
DJ Ed


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Re: High dose of magic mushroom feels like death [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26389946 - 12/19/19 02:24 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Taken 10gs dried PEU i haven't felt like my body was dying but i felt unreal if that makes sense( probably makes zero sense) but my hearing sounded like that zuwoop wooo sound at the beginning of earthbound police sirens sounded like hovering ufos and i felt like a walking question block off of super mario sry I can’t really remember everything from that trip it was amazing though. .-.


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Re: High dose of magic mushroom feels like death [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26390157 - 12/19/19 06:30 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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DJ Ed said:
Haha, reading some “ego-Death” posts on here recently, it may seem I’m not as far away from this headspace after all. I definitely get the ego dissolution on 3.8g dry PC B+, and sometimes the feeling of both gratitude and euphoria I sometimes get when this dissolution kicks in, is quite frankly overwhelming. I often need to sit down for five minutes to cry, and let out my gratitude.

Thank you for the links, and info. I read quite a few as a child, so need to re-read and re-interpret.

Thank you,
DJ Ed



I've never done the whole thing of sitting in silence alone when I've taken doses. I'm either hiking or spending my peak in my hammock (during the warmer months).

Anyway.. I ALWAYS listen to music during my trips. I've had ego dissolution happen several times. But it was never scary to me. So.. it's very odd how it works. On a dose of 4g or so.. I'm still in touch with 'reality'. But.. when I focus.. and get lost in the music.. I literally can feel myself drifting away from my body. It feels like I'm going to "play" in my head and that I'm leaving behind my body for a little bit. I tell my body.. "you're safe, I'll be back shortly".. and I get lost in the music. I become the music. I feel free. Euphoria. Nothing else I'm thinking about other than the beautiful music I am.

At times, it has gotten very crazy feeling where I've had to open my eyes. The thing I like.. is when I open my eyes I get back in touch with 'reality'... if I need calm down before i go back into my phase.

That's why I've always like 4/4.5g.. its enough to get lost.. but not enough to never find your way back if need be. Idk. Maybe I'm missing out on something bigger.. but I'm extremely okay with the experiences the 4/4.5g have to offer. For now, at least.


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Re: High dose of magic mushroom feels like death [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast] * 1
    #26391653 - 12/19/19 10:40 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

My largest and basically first major mushroom trip i literally wrote a note to my fam stating i was sorry, i thought the mushrooms i grew were safe.  I was convinced i ordered the wrong spores or something got fucked up. I felt like i poisoned myself and was dying.    To top it off I was watching enter the void and anyone who’s seen it will know the scene where the cops are shown looking over the kids dead body on the bathroom floor.  I saw myself on my bathroom floor and clear as day hallucinated the back of my parents heads looking over me.  To this day I can see it in my head.  I’ll never forget it. The emotional state was so powerful that I still wonder if somehow I really did die that night and the way of the universe and how this life shit works I’m just in a parallel reality or something now.  It’s crazy what the mind can do and go through.    Ya know we get so obsessed with ourselves it’s funny how the first thing we think about when we think we are dying is everyone but ourselves.  And it’s also funny how when someone else is dying all we can think about is them. Consciousness is at its core truly selfless.  Yet if there weren’t egos and individuals this whole thing we call life wouldn’t really work.

It’s a trip man. And op, I hope your feeling a sense of newness. Of clarity, renewed perception.  I hope this benifited you in some way. Your post has brought me through an important set of memories.    I swear there is like levels to thought. Everyday life had me at level 7 , if 10 is the most superficial meaningless cluttered bullshit, and after reading this I’m in a level 1 head space. 

I think that’s what religion and shit is for. Bringing us to the level 1 or close to it.

There’s definitely something about mushrooms though that makes you hyper aware of your body and thus death of said body. I took a second dose on top of my original microdose yesterday and could feel my digestion....became totally conscious of it.    They say though consciousness oversees all bodily functions. I think mushrooms put your awareness at the level of pure consciousness, so you can experience what only usually happens subconsciously.    Imagine if some people only die subconsciously..


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Re: High dose of magic mushroom feels like death [Re: NOUS333]
    #26391870 - 12/20/19 04:23 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I had a similar experience 32 years ago. I was begging god and Satan to let me live, and the overwhelming feelings of sorrow because of the  pain I was going to put mum and dad through for dying has never left me. I too thought I’d poisoned myself.

Take care,
DJ Ed


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“The problem is not to find the answer, it’s to face the answer.”
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Re: High dose of magic mushroom feels like death [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26391985 - 12/20/19 06:27 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I tend to think about all the terrible things I've said to my mother over the years. My mom and I are very close which is why we bump heads regularly. But, I also still live at home which makes a huge difference.

But I always get stuck in these past repressed sad emotional thoughts. I feel the pain I have caused when I said nothing but words. It destroys me. But I've used those trips to help and better myself with how I speak to people. Some things are left better unsaid... and to not let anger control you

Ps @ NOUS - beautiful post dude. You make some great points.


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Re: High dose of magic mushroom feels like death [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26391992 - 12/20/19 06:38 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I tend to think about all the terrible things I've said to my mother over the years. My mom and I are very close which is why we bump heads regularly. But, I also still live at home which makes a huge difference.

But I always get stuck in these past repressed sad emotional thoughts. I feel the pain I have caused when I said nothing but words. It destroys me. But I've used those trips to help and better myself with how I speak to people. Some things are left better unsaid... and to not let anger control you

Ps @ NOUS - beautiful post dude. You make some great points.




Ive become much more disciplined recently maintaining regular fortnightly trips. And I say discipline because there are so many reasons often to miss a trip and wait. I’ve ended up skipping trips for months! But maintaining my discipline, the mushrooms have really been helping me work through years worth of issues and pain. Last trip I was disturbed at exactly 3 hours in by an Amazon delivery for my wife. I was confused and angry for an hour. But in that hour I thought about the situation and my reaction to it, and concluded I couldn’t be angry with my wife, shit happens. And in the last year, people have actually commented that I’m easier to get along with: can only be the mushrooms. They’re not only helping me (and giving me loads to think about, and loads of fun too), but they’re also helping all those close to me and those I work with 👊🏻

So schedule 1 / class A: FFS no medicinal value and high potential for abuse. War on Humanity, not Drugs!

Take care,
DJ Ed


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Re: High dose of magic mushroom feels like death [Re: Northerner]
    #26394470 - 12/21/19 06:09 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I've never met a person who has had a death experience on mushrooms.

As well as myself I know personally one other person who has had a death experiences on DMT. It's not a badge of merit nor something that happens to people susceptible to delusion. It's something that happens when you take fucking waaay too much drugs at once. The moment of impending doom, dying and leaving of your body, having to accept you are dead and there's no way back, travelling off as a spirit completely forgetting being a human, then the shock of returning to your body, remembering who you were/are and the wonder and relief that you're not actually dead




It would depend what you mean by a "death experience" - on mushrooms I wouldn't expect to get some kind of classic "near death experience" of floating above my body or travelling as a spirit or entering a tunnel and moving towards a white light.

I think on mushrooms the feeling of 'impending doom' sometimes gives way to some sort of mystical / dissociative state as if your brain is re-booting, so instead of experiencing your 'death' the trip suddenly does something unexpected.

The combination of feeling you are about to die or have your consciousness obliterated, added to some kind of weird blissful mystical state which takes over and into which you wake up feeling amazing, can leave you convinced you have seen some kind of underlying existence behind this one; as though you are already existing in some kind of afterlife and 'normal life' is something you are accessing from there. It feels like some core part of your consciousness cannot die.

Delusional - probably: you are 'dead' but you feel fine and massively euphoric about the whole thing. :lol:

I became convinced in one trip that the main effect of psilocybin was instant death and we were all living in this parallel reality. I'm not sure how that would work but there you go...


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Re: High dose of magic mushroom feels like death [Re: Aldebaran]
    #26394555 - 12/21/19 07:33 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I've never met a person who has had a death experience on mushrooms.

As well as myself I know personally one other person who has had a death experiences on DMT. It's not a badge of merit nor something that happens to people susceptible to delusion. It's something that happens when you take fucking waaay too much drugs at once. The moment of impending doom, dying and leaving of your body, having to accept you are dead and there's no way back, travelling off as a spirit completely forgetting being a human, then the shock of returning to your body, remembering who you were/are and the wonder and relief that you're not actually dead




It would depend what you mean by a "death experience" - on mushrooms I wouldn't expect to get some kind of classic "near death experience" of floating above my body or travelling as a spirit or entering a tunnel and moving towards a white light.

I think on mushrooms the feeling of 'impending doom' sometimes gives way to some sort of mystical / dissociative state as if your brain is re-booting, so instead of experiencing your 'death' the trip suddenly does something unexpected.

The combination of feeling you are about to die or have your consciousness obliterated, added to some kind of weird blissful mystical state which takes over and into which you wake up feeling amazing, can leave you convinced you have seen some kind of underlying existence behind this one; as though you are already existing in some kind of afterlife and 'normal life' is something you are accessing from there. It feels like some core part of your consciousness cannot die.

Delusional - probably: you are 'dead' but you feel fine and massively euphoric about the whole thing. :lol:

I became convinced in one trip that the main effect of psilocybin was instant death and we were all living in this parallel reality. I'm not sure how that would work but there you go...



Ive had the same thought. So maybe its true  and we are all dead


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Re: High dose of magic mushroom feels like death [Re: Aldebaran]
    #26397373 - 12/23/19 12:35 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I've had the experience of feeling I'd left my body and existed only in some spirit realm. I actually thought that maybe I'd died and I was a ghost.

I am not even sure where my body was as I was tripping and had the sensation that it could be anywhere - in a hospital or jail even.

After I peaked, I slowly became aware of the real world again though it would be an hour or so before I became comfortable interacting with people or even entering buildings again.

Very strange but interesting too.


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