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Re: How will 5g mushrooms compare to acid? [Re: PsyduckMonkey] * 1
    #26362443 - 12/05/19 07:56 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

If you think 5g is equivalent to 200ug of LSD then I have nothing to say except that you are wrong.

An 8th of mushrooms is probably more intense than 200ug of LSD.


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I do not know its name; I call it tao.
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Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


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Re: How will 5g mushrooms compare to acid? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #26362482 - 12/05/19 08:26 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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If you think 5g is equivalent to 200ug of LSD then I have nothing to say except that you are wrong.

An 8th of mushrooms is probably more intense than 200ug of LSD.



Then you either have a very high tolerance to LSD while a low one to mushies, or you've had a really sleazy dealer who sold you old or weak blotters.

200ug of LSD is a go to space dose for me. Heck, 100ug of LSD is upper stratosphere and a phone call to God. Then again I'm not trying to diss mushrooms, they are pretty powerful, and I like them quite a bit.

Still, 200ug is a high dose, 5g is a high dose. They are comparable. I never said they were the same. I may be right and you may also be right. I've had 100ug of LSD blow a 200ug dose of the same batch clean out of the water. I've had 1.5g of mushrooms take me higher than 3g of the same. It's all very dependent on your set, setting and biochemistry at the time. So you may be right, and I may be right, and everyone may be right.



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Re: How will 5g mushrooms compare to acid? [Re: PsyduckMonkey] * 1
    #26362483 - 12/05/19 08:28 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Or you have just had weak mushrooms. I take 200ug when I'm too chicken shit to eat 4g of mushrooms.


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All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: How will 5g mushrooms compare to acid? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #26362509 - 12/05/19 08:47 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Or you have just had weak mushrooms. I take 200ug when I'm too chicken shit to eat 4g of mushrooms.



I agree with you that high dose LSD is a more bearable experience than high dose mushrooms, but that's mainly because of the emotional component. LSD gives me a euphoria and strong encouragement / positive vibe that mushrooms don't. So yea, 200ug of LSD may be less scary than 4g of mushrooms - but in my mind that doesn't equate to less intense.


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Re: How will 5g mushrooms compare to acid? [Re: PsyduckMonkey] * 2
    #26362511 - 12/05/19 08:50 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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If you think 5g is equivalent to 200ug of LSD then I have nothing to say except that you are wrong.

An 8th of mushrooms is probably more intense than 200ug of LSD.



Then you either have a very high tolerance to LSD while a low one to mushies, or you've had a really sleazy dealer who sold you old or weak blotters.

200ug of LSD is a go to space dose for me. Heck, 100ug of LSD is upper stratosphere and a phone call to God. Then again I'm not trying to diss mushrooms, they are pretty powerful, and I like them quite a bit.

Still, 200ug is a high dose, 5g is a high dose. They are comparable. I never said they were the same. I may be right and you may also be right. I've had 100ug of LSD blow a 200ug dose of the same batch clean out of the water. I've had 1.5g of mushrooms take me higher than 3g of the same. It's all very dependent on your set, setting and biochemistry at the time. So you may be right, and I may be right, and everyone may be right.





You just have weak shrooms. 3.5g of cubes is more intense than 200ug (REAL DOSE). 5g is comparable to 400ug but still much more intense than LSD


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Re: How will 5g mushrooms compare to acid? [Re: grati] * 1
    #26362544 - 12/05/19 09:09 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe it's just two quite different experiences, and so it's simply not easy to compare them side by side?

I've had mushrooms that were on the high end of the cube spectrum, and yes, 3.5 is pretty darn strong, heck, 1.5 from that batch have taken me clean down.

Still, I'm under the heavy impression that you guys are trivializing the power of LSD. For me at least, 200ug of LSD on a clean system (no tripping for months) is... well... let me say I have trouble putting comparisons to it. It's like when Vegita's power meter breaks in Dragon Ball Z.


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Re: How will 5g mushrooms compare to acid? [Re: grati] * 2
    #26362618 - 12/05/19 09:52 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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If you think 5g is equivalent to 200ug of LSD then I have nothing to say except that you are wrong.

An 8th of mushrooms is probably more intense than 200ug of LSD.



Then you either have a very high tolerance to LSD while a low one to mushies, or you've had a really sleazy dealer who sold you old or weak blotters.

200ug of LSD is a go to space dose for me. Heck, 100ug of LSD is upper stratosphere and a phone call to God. Then again I'm not trying to diss mushrooms, they are pretty powerful, and I like them quite a bit.

Still, 200ug is a high dose, 5g is a high dose. They are comparable. I never said they were the same. I may be right and you may also be right. I've had 100ug of LSD blow a 200ug dose of the same batch clean out of the water. I've had 1.5g of mushrooms take me higher than 3g of the same. It's all very dependent on your set, setting and biochemistry at the time. So you may be right, and I may be right, and everyone may be right.





You just have weak shrooms. 3.5g of cubes is more intense than 200ug (REAL DOSE). 5g is comparable to 400ug but still much more intense than LSD





Yep agreed 100%

I'm not sure how much LSD can be comparable to 5g of good cubes. I haven't taken enough LSD to get in that range. I could argue even a thumbprint couldn't be intense in the sense of the meat and potatoes of the trip. Yes the thumbprint will be long and draining but 5g if mushrooms transports you to another dimension that I don't think LSD has in it's makeup. And that's ok. LSD is different. That's all.


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All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
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Re: How will 5g mushrooms compare to acid? [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 3
    #26362746 - 12/05/19 10:45 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

LSD comes from the head. Mushrooms come from the heart.


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All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: How will 5g mushrooms compare to acid? [Re: PsyduckMonkey] * 1
    #26362760 - 12/05/19 10:54 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Bill_Oreilly said:
If you think 5g is equivalent to 200ug of LSD then I have nothing to say except that you are wrong.

An 8th of mushrooms is probably more intense than 200ug of LSD.



Then you either have a very high tolerance to LSD while a low one to mushies, or you've had a really sleazy dealer who sold you old or weak blotters.

200ug of LSD is a go to space dose for me. Heck, 100ug of LSD is upper stratosphere and a phone call to God. Then again I'm not trying to diss mushrooms, they are pretty powerful, and I like them quite a bit.

Still, 200ug is a high dose, 5g is a high dose. They are comparable. I never said they were the same. I may be right and you may also be right. I've had 100ug of LSD blow a 200ug dose of the same batch clean out of the water. I've had 1.5g of mushrooms take me higher than 3g of the same. It's all very dependent on your set, setting and biochemistry at the time. So you may be right, and I may be right, and everyone may be right.





My guess is you have a weak ass LSD tolerance because you keep telling experienced LSD users that their buying bunk shit as if you've got the straightest connect in the world for the shit. how do you know what your tabs are mic'd at? you get every batch lab tested or trust some sketch ass dealer as well? estimate? I'd really like to know.


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Re: How will 5g mushrooms compare to acid? [Re: PsyduckMonkey] * 1
    #26362819 - 12/05/19 11:29 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Yes, blotters vary and are often overreported. They can also go bad in storage, and lose most of their potency. If you want to have a good idea if how strong a blotter really is, dissolve it in water and try microdosing it.




Make sure its not tap water.

And blotters don't go bad and lose most of their potency very easy. That's a common misconception.


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Re: How will 5g mushrooms compare to acid? [Re: pixelpopper]
    #26362825 - 12/05/19 11:34 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I don’t know if I have a natural acid tolerance or something but this was WAY more intense than 675ug... i’ll write a trip report at some point


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Re: How will 5g mushrooms compare to acid? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26362846 - 12/05/19 11:51 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe bc it’s actually been about 2 weeks this time


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Re: How will 5g mushrooms compare to acid? [Re: 330ci] * 1
    #26362855 - 12/05/19 11:57 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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If you think 5g is equivalent to 200ug of LSD then I have nothing to say except that you are wrong.

An 8th of mushrooms is probably more intense than 200ug of LSD.



Then you either have a very high tolerance to LSD while a low one to mushies, or you've had a really sleazy dealer who sold you old or weak blotters.

200ug of LSD is a go to space dose for me. Heck, 100ug of LSD is upper stratosphere and a phone call to God. Then again I'm not trying to diss mushrooms, they are pretty powerful, and I like them quite a bit.

Still, 200ug is a high dose, 5g is a high dose. They are comparable. I never said they were the same. I may be right and you may also be right. I've had 100ug of LSD blow a 200ug dose of the same batch clean out of the water. I've had 1.5g of mushrooms take me higher than 3g of the same. It's all very dependent on your set, setting and biochemistry at the time. So you may be right, and I may be right, and everyone may be right.





My guess is you have a weak ass LSD tolerance because you keep telling experienced LSD users that their buying bunk shit as if you've got the straightest connect in the world for the shit. how do you know what your tabs are mic'd at? you get every batch lab tested or trust some sketch ass dealer as well? estimate? I'd really like to know.





I get some of the best LSD on the planet. There a couple crystals that I am trying to locate, though. But I am on the right track







And some others


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: How will 5g mushrooms compare to acid? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26362883 - 12/05/19 12:14 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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I don’t know if I have a natural acid tolerance or something but this was WAY more intense than 675ug... i’ll write a trip report at some point




I really have no idea how much acid I used to take; best trips were from two blotters of white lightning. (Also had blue Micro-dots, brown domes, and some shit that I’m still convinced was laced with speed!)

But my first (liberty cap) mushroom experience, probably “heroic”, from memory, was INTENSE. As soon as the come up started , the black shapes on the horizon were definitely coming towards me, slowly, but surely. I was so scared. Took them with my more experienced ex. Very soon I was curled up on the settee begging her to ring my eldest brother, as “he would know what to do”! No he bloody wouldn’t have!

Anyway we got it together enough to go for a walk, and shit got much easier to deal with. But then I took them again with a few mates. Total approximation ‘ guess (full ASDA carrier bag wet liberties). We had about half a pint of thick black tea each! If I were to guess it equated to 30g+ dry, it would probably be an underestimation. That trip has stayed with me for the last 32 years! I’ll post a historic trip report at some point.

I laid off tripping until mid-2016, when I came off SSRIs after reading the research on mushrooms. Been self medicating since. While I was coming off the meds, I was taking up to 8g dry cubensis to get any effects. But after 6 months or so they were out of my system and the tripping really began. Since then, Nov 2016, I have taken between 3.5g and 5.5g cubensis dry. Even on the 3.5g doses I get a wonderful experience, learn loads, awesome music, great after-glow.

But even at these relatively low doses (compared to what I took 30 years ago before YouTube! and learned!), I still think they’re:

A completely different trip to lsd.
A more emotionally moving experience
A more intense come up
The lessons are harder to predict / navigate, I.e the mushrooms seem much more random and unpredictable than lsd.

I would love to get hold of lsd again to test out its self-analytical properties (James Fadiman). But in the meantime, natures gift of mushrooms is keeping my depression well at bay, and I have rediscovered my curiosity for the universe and why we’re here.

I can’t wait for the trip report, Koren 👊🏻

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Re: How will 5g mushrooms compare to acid? [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26362898 - 12/05/19 12:23 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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and some shit that I’m still convinced was laced with speed!






how big of a speed dose ya figure they fit onto that blotter?


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Re: How will 5g mushrooms compare to acid? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #26362906 - 12/05/19 12:28 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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I get some of the best LSD on the planet. There a couple crystals that I am trying to locate, though. But I am on the right track




Yeah man, you've got several bits there I've got as well, top shelf blotter. Couple of things I've never seen, but I've got a few you miss as well.

I stopped buying LSD now, collection has seemed to have gotten out of hand.


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Re: How will 5g mushrooms compare to acid? [Re: DJ Ed] * 2
    #26362915 - 12/05/19 12:33 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Blotters laced with speed are often rumored about, but doesn't make much sense.
A blotter can hold only very few milligrams of a substance. Amphetamines in the 2-3 milligram range have almost no effect. If any, then it would subside after four to five hours or so.
People rail lines of 30 to 50 milligrams to get lit. And intranasal it's a lot more potent than orally taken.

If you had blotters that gave you a lot of stimulation and restlessnes if coud have just been lsd. Sometimes it's very stimulating.
If I dose lsd I'm awake for at least 14 hours, sometimes unable to sleep up to 24 hours. It all depends on the dose, though.

Psychedelic dimethoxy amphetamines such as dimethoxy- bromo/chloro/methyl/iodo -amphetamine (DOB/DOC/DOM/DOI) feel pretty similar to lsd in certain doses. A full dose fits on a single blotter, and can last a looong time.
Like 15 (DOC) to 30 hours (DOB/DOM), depending on the substance and dose. These stimulate a lot and keep awake for days. Some of them have been around since the late 60s.

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Re: How will 5g mushrooms compare to acid? [Re: Northerner]
    #26362939 - 12/05/19 12:43 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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I get some of the best LSD on the planet. There a couple crystals that I am trying to locate, though. But I am on the right track




Yeah man, you've got several bits there I've got as well, top shelf blotter. Couple of things I've never seen, but I've got a few you miss as well.

I stopped buying LSD now, collection has seemed to have gotten out of hand.





Yeah I've pretty much stopped buying it as well. There's definitely some awesome top shelf crystal I am missing but I will only buy the best of the best. Collecting is over because I think I have enough to last for personal use until I die. I'm sure theres many people who have hundreds if not thousands of hits..I only play with a few


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Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: How will 5g mushrooms compare to acid? [Re: pixelpopper]
    #26363235 - 12/05/19 03:37 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

It was crystals. I suppose similar colour and texture to mdma crystals. But I don’t remember the taste being as vile as mdma.

Took it on Christmas Eve and went to a punk concert, where loads of punks with mohicans etc were poguoing on the dance floor. Really intimidating night, not very psychedelic, as that was over[pwered by the stimulant effect.

Fuck me, it was Xmas eve 1987. Just had a flashback. It was one of the more weird acid evenings Out!

Can’t explain it. I know it sounds limp, lame. It was what it was.

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Re: How will 5g mushrooms compare to acid? [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26363242 - 12/05/19 03:39 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

It was my worst Xmas day ever. We couldn’t sleep all night after we got back. 18 hours...


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