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Re: The Effects of a 300 kiloton Nuclear Warhead Detonated Above Washington, D.C. [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
    #26363039 - 12/05/19 01:42 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: The Effects of a 300 kiloton Nuclear Warhead Detonated Above Washington, D.C. [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
    #26375840 - 12/11/19 07:16 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

The problem is not that it doesn't break down

The problem is that its CONSTANTLY breaking down and emitting ionizing radiation in the process.

We have yet to understand how to stop or even slow the rate of radioactive decay we just have to deal with it until there are enough decay generations

Also I was wrong about Ceasium in the bones, I was thinking about Strontium 90 that takes the place of Calcium in bone formation but the effects are the same its a radioactive isotope


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Re: The Effects of a 300 kiloton Nuclear Warhead Detonated Above Washington, D.C. [Re: CornboySavage]
    #26376096 - 12/11/19 09:21 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

The quicker the particular isotope breaks down the more radioactive it is.
That's why Iodine-131 is particularly dangerous,
The half life of Iodine-131 8.0197 days
The thyroid mistakes it for healthy Iodine and it gets absorbed

Any serious prepper keeps Potassium Iodine in their bug out bags/bunkers

An honestly its a really good idea, when fukushima happened their was an enormous shortage of (KI) tabs.
Radioactive iodine is one of the most volatile In the event of a nuclear disaster.

A very smart man once told me "The green stuff has its own logic"


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Re: The Effects of a 300 kiloton Nuclear Warhead Detonated Above Washington, D.C. [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
    #26376104 - 12/11/19 09:26 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

At the same time, a shorter half life means that the nuclide becomes safer at a faster rate too.

Generally we consider about 8 half lifes to be "fully decayed"

Thats like what 64 days for a sample of I-131 to decompose below the threshold compared to the 30 something year half life of Cs-137.

There are still significant readings of Cs-137 today, from above ground nuclear testing in the middle of the century

So I guess a short half life gives and takes


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Re: The Effects of a 300 kiloton Nuclear Warhead Detonated Above Washington, D.C. [Re: CornboySavage]
    #26376114 - 12/11/19 09:34 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

At the same time, the radioactivity of Plutonium has nothing to do with its toxicity.

"There are two aspects to the harmful effects of plutonium: the radioactivity and the heavy metal poison effects. Isotopes and compounds of plutonium are radioactive and accumulate in bone marrow."

Plutonium absorbed by the body is excreted very slowly, with a biological half-life of 200 years.[127] Plutonium passes only slowly through cell membranes and intestinal boundaries, so absorption by ingestion and incorporation into bone structure proceeds very slowly.[128][129]

Plutonium is more dangerous when inhaled than when ingested. The risk of lung cancer increases once the total radiation dose equivalent of inhaled plutonium exceeds 400 mSv.[130] The U.S. Department of Energy estimates that the lifetime cancer risk from inhaling 5,000 plutonium particles, each about 3 µm wide, to be 1% over the background U.S. average.[131] Ingestion or inhalation of large amounts may cause acute radiation poisoning and possibly death. However, no human being is known to have died because of inhaling or ingesting plutonium, and many people have measurable amounts of plutonium in their bodies.[111]

There is a theory that the human body builds a resistance to it over time.

But who knows
Maybe we will evolve to resist it.


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Re: The Effects of a 300 kiloton Nuclear Warhead Detonated Above Washington, D.C. [Re: CornboySavage]
    #26376125 - 12/11/19 09:43 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

We kinda do

Metallotionines are a class of peptides/proteins the body makes in response to xenobiotics

They are a water soluble structure that our metabolism binds to things like metals in the body so that they can be filtered out by the kidneys and excreted.

Their synthesis can be induced by exposure but I dont think its anything like building drug tolerance, where your body produces the enzymes to metabolize the drug so much that your level of metabolic enzymes gets upregulated so you are primed to metabolize faster and faster

Uranium as a metal like U-235, U-239, or U-238 is highly renal toxic so, not even regarding radioactivity, this shit fucks you up by getting filtered to the kidneys.

Metals are no joke bro


The reason I dont think tolerance develops is because your metallothionines also play a role in preventing oxidative stress in your body by absorbing reactive species roaming inside you

If your metallothionines are all occipied binding to toxic metals there are less antioxidants available to prevent oxidative stress on your DNA which leads to cancer and shit.

Oxidative stress not only Damages your DNA but your actual cell walls too by fucking up the saturated fatty acids that are part of the cell membrane

I think its too damaging to build much of a tolerance to if you also account for other things the metallothionines have to deal with compared to the classes of toxicants metabolic enzymes are responsible for


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Re: The Effects of a 300 kiloton Nuclear Warhead Detonated Above Washington, D.C. [Re: CornboySavage]
    #26376133 - 12/11/19 09:50 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

One of the biggest problems in the 3rd world.
All these Heavy metals end up in the water ways from industry, the people in these areas are accustomed to just boiling their water.

Little do they know they are slowly poisoning themselves.

Everything we eat is slowly becoming poisonous, I haven't touched fish in years.

"In the end all of the food was poisoned, and the only thing Odin would eat, was his own pigs"
Nordic book or Ragnarok (Apocalypse)


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Re: The Effects of a 300 kiloton Nuclear Warhead Detonated Above Washington, D.C. [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
    #26376140 - 12/11/19 09:56 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

That's some sweeping claims bucko man but I hear your message.

Doom may come for mankind but my lifetime is but a blip in time.


There is a degree of nuance in the situation.

Anaerobic bacteria in underwater sediments can use these toxic metals in their chemosynthesis to sustain an entire community by producing energy at the base of the food chain in the anaerobic community


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Re: The Effects of a 300 kiloton Nuclear Warhead Detonated Above Washington, D.C. [Re: CornboySavage]
    #26376147 - 12/11/19 10:00 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Which is good them for them but thats how metals biomagnify up the food chain because the bacteria and shit make the inorganic forms of the metals into organometals which are way more soluble in fats

Stuff like Methyl mercury (an organometal) can cross the blood brain barrier and hitch a ride into your cells by hopping onto ammino acids

They can even bind together nucleobases that would normally never bind together. Like linking two thymines together when thymine should only bind with adenine


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Re: The Effects of a 300 kiloton Nuclear Warhead Detonated Above Washington, D.C. [Re: CornboySavage]
    #26376156 - 12/11/19 10:11 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I have tendency to be cynical.

A lot of where I grew up in upstate NY is very polluted, Lead, Pcbs, mercury, Solvents etc.
Dead lakes that nothing can live in.

These things are slowly building up in our food


"Internal FDA emails reveal Roundup has been found in virtually all foods tested, including granola, oatmeal products, crackers and honey. Independent testing has found significant amounts of glyphosate in a wide range of foods as well, including grains (especially oats), legumes, beans, orange juice, wine and ice cream."

This is 1 thing of 100
Any time you ingest Beef you ingest dioxins
I could go on

But who knows, maybe we will evolve.


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"Logic leads to nihilism"



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Re: The Effects of a 300 kiloton Nuclear Warhead Detonated Above Washington, D.C. [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
    #26376162 - 12/11/19 10:14 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: The Effects of a 300 kiloton Nuclear Warhead Detonated Above Washington, D.C. [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
    #26376165 - 12/11/19 10:18 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Just chill out and pour yourself a bowl of glyphosphate and drink your tainted tap water like the rest of us


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Re: The Effects of a 300 kiloton Nuclear Warhead Detonated Above Washington, D.C. [Re: CornboySavage]
    #26376177 - 12/11/19 10:30 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

There's literally no way to avoid these things, thinking otherwise is craziness.
I like the Russian medical philosophy of
"The body will heal itself"


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Re: The Effects of a 300 kiloton Nuclear Warhead Detonated Above Washington, D.C. [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
    #26376185 - 12/11/19 10:36 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Who knows,
Maybe fungus can save the world
https://returntonow.net/2018/01/11/7-ways-mushrooms-can-save-world/
People like Paul Stamets and John Allen have inspired generations of young mycologists.

Fungus is perhaps one of the least understood parts of the outside world I talk to people about.

Mycology is a very mystified science


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Re: The Effects of a 300 kiloton Nuclear Warhead Detonated Above Washington, D.C. [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
    #26376195 - 12/11/19 10:42 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

"Stamets joined with Patel Laboratories to test the power of mushrooms to clean up diesel and other petroleum waste.

One spill was treated with enzymes, one with bacteria and one with mycelium.

After a few weeks, the other piles were dead, dark and stinky. The mycelium pile was covered with hundreds of pounds oyster mushrooms.

The mushrooms’ enzymes re-manufactured the hydrocarbons into carbohydrates, fungal sugars, Stamets said."

Incredible, the man really is a genius

Maybe someday something like this could be used to clean up our nuclear legacy


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Re: The Effects of a 300 kiloton Nuclear Warhead Detonated Above Washington, D.C. [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
    #26376203 - 12/11/19 10:46 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

do more research on the forum about staments

he can be a bit of a snake oil salesman about the powers of mushrooms


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Re: The Effects of a 300 kiloton Nuclear Warhead Detonated Above Washington, D.C. [Re: CornboySavage]
    #26376234 - 12/11/19 11:05 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

"Host defense"?
I mean a guy has to make a living
I have never heard of him really doing anything shady.
We live in a culture where everyone sells out.
THEY PLAYED THE CLASH AT THE LAST RNC LMAO

The entire supplement industry is really for the most part full of shit.

The whole thing with the lions mane needs more research, as does everything else though really.

I guess there just isnt much financial interest in studying obscure individual species of fungus.

As far as I know what Paul says about microbe biodiversity in fungal decomposed soil is spot on.

I have never seen weed plants grow better than in mushroom compost.


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Re: The Effects of a 300 kiloton Nuclear Warhead Detonated Above Washington, D.C. [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
    #26376239 - 12/11/19 11:08 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

you do you man

I didn't say hes worthless but he vastly overstates some of the stories he tells about what hes done with mushrooms

I dont believe the man poured motor oil onto oyster mushrooms and they ate it up no way


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Re: The Effects of a 300 kiloton Nuclear Warhead Detonated Above Washington, D.C. [Re: CornboySavage]
    #26376256 - 12/11/19 11:21 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

But why not?

Isn't fungus's entire role in our ecosystem to break things down?

Ive heard of certain plants being used to absorb certain environmental toxins

Phytoremediation and phytomining of heavy metals rich soils by using plants which hyperaccumulate these metals in above-ground organs. The harvesting of the aerial part of the plants leads to the disposal of the huge amounts of toxic heavy metals removed from the soil or to the recovery of the valuable metals taken up.

Hyperaccumulator
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A hyperaccumulator is a plant capable of growing in water with very high concentrations of metals, absorbing these metals through their roots, and concentrating extremely high levels of metals in their tissues. The metals are concentrated at levels that are toxic to closely related species not adapted to growing on the metalliferous soils. Compared to non-hyperaccumulating species, hyperaccumulator roots extract the metal from the soil at a higher rate, transfer it more quickly to their shoots, and store large amounts in leaves and roots. The ability to hyperaccumulate toxic metals compared to related species has been shown to be due to differential gene expression and regulation of the same genes in both plants.


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Re: The Effects of a 300 kiloton Nuclear Warhead Detonated Above Washington, D.C. [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
    #26376271 - 12/11/19 11:29 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Stop drinking the kool aid and do your own research.

Bio remediation can work but its not magic takes time and it can outright fail.

Attempts to sew millions of sunflower seeds after Fukushima to extract radioactive isotopes from the earth were deemed ineffective.

So much money and resources were dedicated to harvesting the sunflowers and then burying the plant matter underground where it was then paved over to make parking lots and shit.

The actual studied efficacy of mycoremediation is hit or miss


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