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Combining San Pedro and Peyote * 1
    #26360722 - 12/04/19 09:42 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

So I'm very interested in trying peyote but don't really want to kill my cacti to do it, I do however have a very large L. williamsii var Caespitosa that I ate a small button from last year when it dried up completely instead of callousing over for propagation and I could definitely taste the alkaloids. My question is, would I be able to mix a solid dose of pedro with a few decent buttons of my peyote for the additional alkaloids or would that ultimately be a waste of such a special cactus. I mean I know it would work but would I notice any real difference over a pedro trip?


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Re: Combining San Pedro and Peyote [Re: Lophophora]
    #26361488 - 12/04/19 05:20 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Theoretically the pellotine content of the loph would make the trip more relaxed/dreamy/sedated.


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Re: Combining San Pedro and Peyote [Re: sacramentum]
    #26361614 - 12/04/19 06:36 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Guess that would be more peyote like, just have a hard time cutting up a 10 year old cactus. Also could cut buttons off dry them and store over years If I want a pure trip I guess.


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Re: Combining San Pedro and Peyote [Re: Lophophora]
    #26361710 - 12/04/19 07:35 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I can not grow lophs where I live, but I have read a great deal about them over the years-- including a wealth of great conversation here--
My understanding is that the dry weight of lophs has to be sufficient to contain enough alks in the same way as trichs do-- meaning that it takes a pretty decent quantity/dry weight of lophs to have an effect despite the per-gram alk concentrations being relatively high.

If you are only talking about a few buttons I would expect you'd notice little effect-- you might be better off cutting off those buttons and grafting them to other stock so they multiply-- then you're making a lot more out of what you have.

After all my reading, I would not personally ruin the plant just to have a weak/poor experience, as they're such special things!


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Re: Combining San Pedro and Peyote [Re: coAsTal] * 1
    #26361738 - 12/04/19 07:53 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)



This is the cactus I've got, the large buttons you see are slightly larger than a golf ball.


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Re: Combining San Pedro and Peyote [Re: Lophophora]
    #26362027 - 12/04/19 11:49 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds interesting.

Ive never done peyote but i bet a Peyote/San Pedro hybrid trip would be really interesting!


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