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MUSHIEMANDANGO
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AMANITA MUSCARIA
#2636121 - 05/04/04 07:44 AM (19 years, 29 days ago) |
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1) ive noticed that one of our sponsers are selling Amanita Muscaria (Fly Agaric) has anyone been sucsessfull with growing these and how easy did you find it thay grow native in my country in september but after much searching under birch,beech and pine trees i still havent found any 2)does any one from england know were abouts in east yorkshire i can find some this summer thanks for your responce mushieman
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a foaf made his own syringe of these living aztec shrines to inncoulate the ground under pine tree's, he just stuck the needle in the ground and shot half a cc, and did this all around under the pine tree. my foaf did NOT have to worry about contams he just let nature works its miracles and he got a nice batch in the winter here in cali...
just a thought for you!
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im sooooooooo jellous your winter is as good as our summer thank your foaf for the advice my foaf might be daft enought to eat some how much has he/she consumed if thay have been daft enought to ive been told you have to be sick after youve eaten some is that true just so i can advise my foaf i dont want him to do any thing daft but i carnt watch him all the time
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well my foaf usualy makes his into a seasoning powder and mixes it in with his eggs during breakfast... he usualy adds a few table spoons to his mix... only about half a cap is needed for a good euphoric feeling says my foaf. i personaly suggest u scan the shroomerys files on amanita muscaria, NOT the forums but the actual shroomery has some stuff on it... they have a bunch of stories and things you can do to prepare it... my foaf has taken too much before also, this is where u get nasueated and can hallucinate... the trip on muscaria is nothing like psilocybin and i dont suggest u mix either of them by the way. a trip on muscaria is frightening and traumatic most of the time... my foaf has never had a good "trip" on muscaria.
happy shroomin!
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MUSHIEMANDANGO
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ok thanks and thank your foaf
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Dont believe anything this guy says He is so full of shit!!!!! He has been giving out bad info all across these forums! But to answer your question mushymandango-I cant.You just have to search
Edited by doc34 (05/04/04 11:37 AM)
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MUSHIEMANDANGO
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muscaria isent the speces its amanita and i dont know how you figure not to mix psilocybin with amanita it is a psilocybin, panaeolina,psilocybe,hyphaloma and amanita are all psilocybin your ratings stink and its a good job you stink.........of fish and i checked it out nice try. keep it to youre self if you ant got a clue mf
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They are not actually hard to grown, but it might take as long as 25 years. You see they live in a symbiotic relationship with certain trees, normally silver birch, but also on oak, pine and a few other tree species roots.
So, you need to inoculate the root ball of a small sapling, plant it, and wait until the tree is large enough to support the mushroom fruiting.
I too had a bad season last year (UK) for fly agarics, as it was
a long and very dry summer.
Fly agarics aren't necessarily an autum species, they can fruit throughout the summer if its wet enough.
So, i general cultivation isn't practiced, but by those with time, and space.
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Amanita's Contain muscimol,muscarin?(sp?) and do not contain psilocybine or psilocin.
edit=and Amanita is Muscaria=Amanita Muscaria they are the red ones with white warts.
Edited by doc34 (05/04/04 12:27 PM)
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Loki
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Amanita muscaria contains no psilocybin, its main active ingredient is muscarine (sp?) There is some good writing in the hunting faq, and the other mushrooms faq on them. If you have yet to try this enjoyerbal mushroom, I suggest a LOT of reading first, as it mght not be what you expected.
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Re: AMANITA MUSCARIA [Re: Loki]
#2636809 - 05/04/04 12:44 PM (19 years, 28 days ago) |
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Loki said: Amanita muscaria contains no psilocybin, its main active ingredient is muscarine (sp?) There is some good writing in the hunting faq, and the other mushrooms faq on them. If you have yet to try this enjoyerbal mushroom, I suggest a LOT of reading first, as it mght not be what you expected.
i have a book by Richard Cooper its called A GUIDE TO BRITISH PSILOCYBIN MUSHROOMS it has amanita muscaria and amanita pantherina in it as well as the others i mentioned so you can see were i was coming from i dont just lisen to anyone and dont class anyone an expert just cos thay know more than me but i do trust books and the list of profesers and scintists at the end of my book , but it is an old book so maby back then thay couldent put hallucinogenic in 1977 i dont know ill be doing a lot more searching on the matter maby i can sew for false addvertisment
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Ah, yes, They would just be added to the book, as they are the other common magic mushroom type in the uk. Good little guide, i have it, but there are other mistakes in there, there are some misnamed shrooms too, but there is no dangerouse information, just a little misclarifcation. In general, a handy book.
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MUSHIEMANDANGO
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Re: AMANITA MUSCARIA [Re: doc34]
#2636865 - 05/04/04 01:01 PM (19 years, 28 days ago) |
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doc34 said: Amanita's Contain muscimol,muscarin?(sp?) and do not contain psilocybine or psilocin.
edit=and Amanita is Muscaria=Amanita Muscaria they are the red ones with white warts.
Amanita pantherina this mushroom is less common but slightly more potent than A.musc.and easily distinguished from the latter by the following characteristics It is slightly smaller ,the cap is dark brown when young,speckled white with remnants of the universal veil,becoming coffie coloured with age. the stem is tan and not white,the scales at its base forming complete concentric circles rather than broken rings. then how dose this work then ????????????
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MUSHIEMANDANGO
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Re: AMANITA MUSCARIA [Re: Loki]
#2636875 - 05/04/04 01:03 PM (19 years, 28 days ago) |
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Loki said: Ah, yes, They would just be added to the book, as they are the other common magic mushroom type in the uk. Good little guide, i have it, but there are other mistakes in there, there are some misnamed shrooms too, but there is no dangerouse information, just a little misclarifcation. In general, a handy book.
what like ???
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Amanita pantherina is a very dangerous mushroom to hunt, as its quite varierbal, and looks a lot like its poisionous cousin at times.
I myself have been eating fly agaric for 10+ years, but i have never had the nerve to try Amanita pantherina, just a heads up there.
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MUSHIEMANDANGO
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Re: AMANITA MUSCARIA [Re: Loki]
#2636883 - 05/04/04 01:07 PM (19 years, 28 days ago) |
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wat part of england do you go to
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You have lost me my friend-how does what work?
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Re: AMANITA MUSCARIA [Re: doc34]
#2636887 - 05/04/04 01:11 PM (19 years, 28 days ago) |
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not a clue ive qoted it word for word out my book and by the sounds of it its better off in the bin fcking book
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Now i have to go find it :/ This could take some time, but one i think i remeber is a mushroom called Hy(blah blah more letters) that is infact Psilocybe cyanescens.
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ThatDaltonGuy said: a foaf made his own syringe of these living aztec shrines to inncoulate the ground under pine tree's, he just stuck the needle in the ground and shot half a cc, and did this all around under the pine tree. my foaf did NOT have to worry about contams he just let nature works its miracles and he got a nice batch in the winter here in cali...
just a thought for you!
Look at your ratings, I dont think anyone is taking you and your stupid advices seriously.
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I'm in the south, surrey. And normaly pick fly agaric from june onwards, if the weather is wet enougth.
 Thats my last find last year, in the new forrest, on halloween night.
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Re: AMANITA MUSCARIA [Re: Loki]
#2636916 - 05/04/04 01:21 PM (19 years, 28 days ago) |
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Those are the most amazing shrooms ever. The perfect mushroom!
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Re: AMANITA MUSCARIA [Re: Loki]
#2636919 - 05/04/04 01:21 PM (19 years, 28 days ago) |
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Did you eat that Piece of Halloween candy?
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MUSHIEMANDANGO
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Re: AMANITA MUSCARIA [Re: Loki]
#2636927 - 05/04/04 01:24 PM (19 years, 28 days ago) |
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Loki said: Now i have to go find it :/ This could take some time, but one i think i remeber is a mushroom called Hy(blah blah more letters) that is infact Psilocybe cyanescens.
hyphaloma cyanescens? could you pm them to please thanks peaceout dan
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Bi0TeK
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I live in Yorkshire and find Amanita Muscaria growing everywhere during summer and autumn, normally in silver birch woods but have found them in pine plantations as well.
If you do decide to experiment with this species, do so with extreme caution. I've tried them a few times in the past and wasn't impressed but have heard of very bad experiences (stomach pumped with active charcoal, heart failure etc) so be careful.
BTW, take ThatDaltonGuy's advice with a pinch of salt, the kids a retard.
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MUSHIEMANDANGO
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see wat i meen Doc
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well for everyones info an actual FOAF did do that and got a nice batch so stfu... ill get him to send me pix!
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hey mushieman. before you bash someone on their info, maybe you should do some research. there is a species of mushroom that just so happens to look like a Fly Agaric and WILL kill you without any problems. I don't recommend messing with these shrooms personally, but they are beautiful. Fly agaric's DO NOT contain psilocybin. They never have. The active chemical in Fly Agarics is Muscarine. It's a Poison. The basis for the trip on them is that the chemical is toxic enough to make your brain release the right chemicals but not toxic enough to kill you except in high doses. Vikings used to eat these things. Loki is right Pantherina is extremely dangerous to hunt. All of the Amanita's are. there's too many small differences between the lot. Fly Agaric's require a live host tree to grow, and they grow SLOW as fuck.
I hope this is of some help to someone
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just shut up dude... pics prove nothing just like your jibberish...
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Re: AMANITA MUSCARIA [Re: dupee419]
#2667368 - 05/12/04 03:41 AM (19 years, 21 days ago) |
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Dupree419 before you go spouting off how "toxic" A. muscaria is why dont you go do some research on the subject. The trip is not from brain chemicals released because muscimol is toxic the trip actually is from the active chemical muscimol. Please do read on the subject as these beautiful mushrooms do not deserve the so called highly toxic rep that the have. In actuality i belive only two people have died do to actual A. muscaria poisoning one was a small child who ate an extremely large amount and another was an adult male who also ate an rediculous amount of the mushrooms. As i understandit the people who die from eating these mushrooms actually consume simmilar looking mushrooms that are highly poisonous and cause liver failure ive been eating and hunting these mushrooms for a couple of years now and only have extremely positive things to say about them. If your going to eat these mushrooms be very prepared as there a very different trip than your normal psilocybe variety. And on a further note i suggest that anyone really interested in these mushrooms reads erowid as there Amanita muscaria vault has quite a bit of good info on the subject erowid amanita vault. Happy hunting good luck to all and most importantly be safe.
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Re: AMANITA MUSCARIA [Re: glimmi]
#2691494 - 05/17/04 01:50 PM (19 years, 15 days ago) |
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glimmi said: Dupree419 before you go spouting off how "toxic" A. muscaria is why dont you go do some research on the subject. Please do read on the subject as these beautiful mushrooms do not deserve the so called highly toxic rep that the have. In actuality i belive only two people have died do to actual A. muscaria poisoning one was a small child who ate an extremely large amount and another was an adult male who also ate an rediculous amount of the mushrooms. As i understandit the people who die from eating these mushrooms actually consume simmilar looking mushrooms that are highly poisonous and cause liver failure ive been eating and hunting these mushrooms for a couple of years now and only have extremely positive things to say about them. And on a further note i suggest that anyone really interested in these mushrooms reads erowid as there Amanita muscaria vault has quite a bit of good info on the subject.
Yes glimmi, erowid does have alot of good info on Amanita muscaria.
Take this post for instance.
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php3?ID=1755
Extreme Negative Psychic Effect Amanita muscaria by Robert Cain
"Yep, a night in the hospital in the most awful psychic agony I have ever experienced while they poured ipecac (SP) and charcoal down me 'cause the little bastards refused to let me puke. I was pumped. I was then hooked to a heart monitor and had the distinct displeasure of seeing my heart stop a couple of times. After one of them and a couple of firm thumps to my sternum I asked the doctor if I was going to make it. He was rather preocupied with saving my life and sorta muttered, 'we don't know.' They would not treat me with anything until the mushroom was identified which they did by flying it to a poison control center in Denver, I think it was, by Navy jet from Moffet field. They then shot me with something that had me down in 15 minutes after about six hours of mental horror. The next morning every damn med student and intern came by to find out what it was like. I didn't have good things to report. Your mileage may vary. The view I got of the human condition and the burried sadness, pain and agony in everyone around and treating me in the busy emergency facility may have been one very powerful sort of empathogenic halucination effect but it fucked me up for a long time. I have tried nearly every psychoactive even remotely available and nothing, NOTHING, has had such a negative psychic effect."
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Re: AMANITA MUSCARIA [Re: Bi0TeK]
#2691842 - 05/17/04 03:02 PM (19 years, 15 days ago) |
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Yeah they sound like there a blast
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Re: AMANITA MUSCARIA [Re: Bi0TeK]
#2691871 - 05/17/04 03:09 PM (19 years, 15 days ago) |
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im not saying i know anything at all about aminita muscaria, ive never seen it in person, nor have i tried it or even read much about it, but that post doesnt seem entirely true, first of all if they wanted to identify the mushroom wouldnt they send it to a mycologist, and if they sent it to a poison control center wouldnt they only be able to diagnose the chemical that caused this effect, and not the actual mushroom itself, especially after he ingested it?
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Re: AMANITA MUSCARIA [Re: Jiggly]
#2692024 - 05/17/04 03:36 PM (19 years, 15 days ago) |
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Poison control centers rely on mycologists as they do experts in poisonous reptiles, arachnids etc.
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Edited by Bi0TeK (05/17/04 04:07 PM)
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Re: AMANITA MUSCARIA [Re: Bi0TeK]
#2692201 - 05/17/04 04:24 PM (19 years, 15 days ago) |
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ahhhhh i seeee, but this part is still skepticle "Navy jet from Moffet field" wouldnt they just use a helicopter like everyone else, or is this kid special?
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