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How will 5g mushrooms compare to acid?
    #26360966 - 12/04/19 12:03 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

So people say 5g mushrooms is a ton, but most online sources say it's equivalent to around 200ug acid. 200ug is not a lot of acid for me, i did 150ug in the morning once and had an entirely normal day. It does seem that my acid tolerance is naturally higher than others, but will 5g shrooms really give me a crazy experience?


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Re: How will 5g mushrooms compare to acid? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26360977 - 12/04/19 12:14 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

5g DRIED shrooms is the infamous heroic dose. Check out Terence McKenna on how to take mushrooms. I don’t know what 200 acid is, not having taken it for 30 years, but I can guarantee you that 5g dried shrooms and you will have a wild time. Presumably you mean cubensis, because 5g liberty caps will destroy you. On 5g cubensis, you may suffer ego death, but you will absolutely experience ego dissolution. You will feel eternity, you will feel the oneness of the universe, time will dilate significantly, you will see the elves, and you will be able to explore your mind and body in any way you choose. And you are really suggestible, so say you tell yourself you’ve taken mdma, you might as well find a rave, because you’ll be pumping your fists and shaking that booty.

Seriously pal, 5g will be great.

I am guessing you are experienced with psychedelics though not mushrooms, otherwise I’d be urging you to try 3.5g dry first. Consider a sitter for your first 5g though, get them to sit in another room. You may thank me.

Good luck, and enjoy.

Oh and pls post the trip report 😋
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Re: How will 5g mushrooms compare to acid? [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26360983 - 12/04/19 12:21 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah I'm reading conflicting things. One one hand 5g is the heroic dose and should give me a wild experience. On the other hand online calculators say it's not equivalent to much acid.

Most I've ever done is around 650ug acid (albeit shortly after another much smaller trip). That's supposedly 15g shrooms. I don't believe it. Pretty sure I'd have been completely lost in other dimensions with no sense of reality had that been the case.


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Re: How will 5g mushrooms compare to acid? [Re: DJ Ed] * 2
    #26361014 - 12/04/19 12:37 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Mushrooms can vary a lot in potency. LSD blotters or drops are often advertised higher as they really are.

Some find 2g of shrooms powerfull, others find even 4g weak. It has all to do with potency, and of course natural tolerance towards them.

Shrooms are potent (talking about P.cubensis) if 1 to 2g give you a pretty good trip already with obvious open eye visuals, hefty laughs and mindfuck and all.
Usually, 1 to 1.5g is enough to make your vision fluid, walls breath and surfaces flow. Even half a gram should give slight visuals.

With good shrooms, 5g is a truly powerfull dose. You are usually unable to walk or do anything other than laying down with closed eyes. Best to taken alone in a dark room on a couch or bed.


Acid is strong below 100mics already. 100mics give you a solid, decent trip with good visuals and headspace.
With 150mics everything in your vision is flowing and morphing heavy while beeing blasted with neon-colors. 200mics is truly powerfull!

I'd compare 2g of good cubes to 125 to 150mics of acid. The dose respond curve is not linear, so a doubled dose leads to trippled, or stronger, effects.

I haven't taken more than 300mics of acid, so I cannot say to how much 5g should compare. 300mics is enough for me, very strong visuals, close to lose connection to reality. Hard to "see" in general.
5g are pretty similar to that. But high doses of shrooms are totally different than high doses of lsd. Hard to compare those two in higher doses I'd say.. :shrug:

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Re: How will 5g mushrooms compare to acid? [Re: Pandemoon] * 1
    #26361049 - 12/04/19 12:59 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

The first time I took 3.5g I got destroyed, and thats after many years of LSD experience. Other times I've taken 5 and been cool but other times I've had ego dissolving experiences from 2g. There's so many variables, it's very hard to scale and the results are often not repeatable. That's why I think you are finding so many different answers to the same question.

My guess is you'll probably like it. The only word of warning I'd say is to be in a very safe place for your first few experiences, till you get used to it. It can be a lot more emotional than LSD on high doses and shit can get out of hand if you're not in the right place.

PS: and sorry for being rude to you in your other thread man, it wasn't very shroomy.  :peace:


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Re: How will 5g mushrooms compare to acid? [Re: Pandemoon] * 2
    #26361057 - 12/04/19 01:04 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

First of all, what blotters do you have? You may think you dose higher than you actually are. High doses of shrooms are more intense and unpredictable than high doses of LSD.

I would say 5g of potent cubes = 400ug


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Re: How will 5g mushrooms compare to acid? [Re: Northerner]
    #26361063 - 12/04/19 01:08 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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The first time I took 3.5g I got destroyed, and thats after many years of LSD experience. Other times I've taken 5 and been cool but other times I've had ego dissolving experiences from 2g. There's so many variables, it's very hard to scale and the results are often not repeatable. That's why I think you are finding so many different answers to the same question.

My guess is you'll probably like it. The only word of warning I'd say is to be in a very safe place for your first few experiences, till you get used to it. It can be a lot more emotional than LSD on high doses and shit can get out of hand if you're not in the right place.

PS: and sorry for being rude to you in your other thread man, it wasn't very shroomy.  :peace:



This. I had a crazy potent batch and got strong level 3 trips every time from just 1g. From other batches I needed a lot more for the same intensity.


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Re: How will 5g mushrooms compare to acid? [Re: grati]
    #26361072 - 12/04/19 01:16 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Yes pretty much what others have said, potency can vary greatly between mushrooms and blotters you can almost be certain your blotters are under what they are advertised as unless you made them your self. Outside of that, mushroom dosage doesn't really matter as much as your intent going into it, the mushroom spirit is alive and will work with you, this is why we see such variation in trips from various dosages outside of the potency spectrum, you just never know with mushrooms as it is its own entity guiding you through the experience, when working with LSD, the entity persuading the trip is quality/intention of the crystal itself and ultimately you.

Its always best to start small so you don't overwhelm yourself and induce panic, besides sometimes less is more, and you can truly receive great insight just by listening and letting go on a low dosage. Use what works best for your body and mind, dosage guides are good for a general understanding but suck as they are highly personal.


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Re: How will 5g mushrooms compare to acid? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #26361101 - 12/04/19 01:40 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

It's not productive to compare high lsd and high psilocybin trips. Their different beasts.
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Re: How will 5g mushrooms compare to acid? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26361332 - 12/04/19 03:50 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

CAVEAT: I haven’t taken LSD for over thirty years. And I have no idea what doses I took. I used regularly for 2 years when I was 20...the trips were strong enough that I could see the music, hear colours, time dilation, ego death, full on visuals (I once tried walking home alone on a come down, so I thought and had to turn back in shit scared panic t the fractal faces coming out of the trees at me.

So I had pretty strong acid.

But tht was NOTHING compared to my first high dose liberty cap experience. Admittedly far higher than the heroic dose, but it scarred me for life. I saw a counsellor from the local hospital for a while, thought I wa going mad, but fired him off when he admitted he had never taken a psychedelic!

But from memory, my recent 5g dry cubensis trips have been wild, and at times, really fucking scary! The come ups are always intense, brother, nd when you’ve eventually settled into the peak, and hey you’ve actually started enjoying the power you now have; the trip suddenly intensifies at a light speed exponential level. YOU INSTANTLY KNOW YOURE FUCKED AND THIS SHIT IS FUCKING REAL. Reality tears in front of your eyes, your loved ones simply vanish, and that’s it.

5g is no laughing matter, dude.

Stay safe, and above all else.....enjoy 👊🏻

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Re: How will 5g mushrooms compare to acid? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26361510 - 12/04/19 05:29 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

depends how strong the mushrooms are. if they are atleast average cubes...5g will beat out any LSD experience you've had. You haven't seen anything yet. Take them.


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Re: How will 5g mushrooms compare to acid? [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 3
    #26362008 - 12/04/19 11:27 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Holy. Fucking. Shit.

I've been humbled.


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Re: How will 5g mushrooms compare to acid? [Re: Korean Jesus] * 1
    #26362126 - 12/05/19 01:13 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Never done LSD, but 5g dried cubensis took me to ego death (or as close to it), and about 3g dried pan cyans rocked my world the most so far. I have a DMT session planned for the week of Christmas this year.


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Re: How will 5g mushrooms compare to acid? [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #26362135 - 12/05/19 01:30 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Going to be smoking or taking it orally?


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Re: How will 5g mushrooms compare to acid? [Re: pixelpopper]
    #26362145 - 12/05/19 01:46 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I looks like I will be smoking it, with a very experienced older friend as a guide/sitter. I'm undecided if I want him to film me for science, or if I should just let it go. I have a feeling I'll forget he's filming or there's a camera in the corner while it hits, lol. I'd like to be able to semi-correlate my memory of the trip with my reaction on screen as kind of a "time stamp", if that makes sense.


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Re: How will 5g mushrooms compare to acid? [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #26362147 - 12/05/19 01:50 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

cool.. i've only smoked smaller amounts so far. pretty cool but have not gotten into the real shit yet.

i may be taking my first DMT oral dosage around the same time. Was hoping to do it this weekend, but looks like my order of syrian rue isn't going to arrive in time.

i might do a large-ish dose of mushrooms instead.

its time for a kick in the assheart.


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Re: How will 5g mushrooms compare to acid? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26362177 - 12/05/19 02:45 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Holy. Fucking. Shit.

I've been humbled.



please share more!


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Re: How will 5g mushrooms compare to acid? [Re: Northerner]
    #26362183 - 12/05/19 02:57 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

Korean Jesus said:
Holy. Fucking. Shit.

I've been humbled.



please share more!



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Re: How will 5g mushrooms compare to acid? [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #26362223 - 12/05/19 04:46 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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I looks like I will be smoking it, with a very experienced older friend as a guide/sitter. I'm undecided if I want him to film me for science, or if I should just let it go. I have a feeling I'll forget he's filming or there's a camera in the corner while it hits, lol. I'd like to be able to semi-correlate my memory of the trip with my reaction on screen as kind of a "time stamp", if that makes sense.





i suggest not recording it.


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Re: How will 5g mushrooms compare to acid? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #26362439 - 12/05/19 07:54 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

5 grams is just 5 grams. With potent enough shrooms, and no prior tolerance buildup, it will make you unable to function in society for 5 hours or so. That said, McKenna was a bit of a tall tale teller. It's nothing to write home about as psychedelics go. "Heroic" is a dramatic overstatement, and this is coming from a person with lower tolerance levels than most others I know. It won't be as crazy as a regular smoked dose of DMT. In my experience, approximately equivalent to 200ug of acid sounds like a reasonable estimate. While the trips differ in spirit, you'll get a similar level of obliteration of personality and social unpresentability. :laugh:

Yes, blotters vary and are often overreported. They can also go bad in storage, and lose most of their potency. If you want to have a good idea if how strong a blotter really is, dissolve it in water and try microdosing it.


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