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Re: British people try to guess US healthcare cost [Re: TheFakeSunRa] * 1
    #26361717 - 12/04/19 07:40 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I’m just saying we need a better proponent for universal healthcare.  Sanders is a liberal nut job who has no infrastructure for his plans.  I wholeheartedly support healthcare for everybody.  My girl has everything marking MS and is missing a toe because my tank fell on her and she has blood clotting disorder (EPS) and prolly a lot more that I’m
Not mentioning.  I still think it’s complicated and it’s just shitty.  I’d vote in a heartbeat for someone who I genuinely believed would try to do that.  I don’t even know if sanders would just not sell out if he got elected.  Either way he won’t win this year.  Even if he didn’t sell out I don’t think he is determined or clever enough to get his healthcare through. Life is fucked


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Re: British people try to guess US healthcare cost [Re: theRealrollforever] * 1
    #26361720 - 12/04/19 07:41 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Also she has Medicaid and can’t get certain doctors who aren’t shackled to it to even call her back.  Super fucked because I doubt universal healthcare will be enacted the way we all envision it being


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Re: British people try to guess US healthcare cost [Re: theRealrollforever] * 1
    #26362136 - 12/05/19 01:30 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Part of the law is if you’re a doctor you’ll lose your license if you don’t take Medicare. As it should be.

And what part of take the money from billionaires confuses you?


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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

I disendorse you.[/quote]


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Re: British people try to guess US healthcare cost [Re: theRealrollforever]
    #26362173 - 12/05/19 02:37 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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feldman114 said:
Can we all agree that individuals worth over $1b or making, say, $10m  per year should pay a larger share of their profits? That they should pay for EVERYONE else’s healthcare, infrastructure, unemployment benefits, etc.?

Really asking. Just wondering how many people feel this would be wrong, cause the question is much more complex than it may seem.
My economics professor thinks that the US is prosperous because our system lets the wealthy cheat & win. He theorizes that if/when the system changes, wealth will “move” to a different jurisdiction. Therefore, we gotta keep eating their shit, cause the alternative is having less shit to eat as a nation, so to speak.




Raising taxes on the wealthy won't help pay for jack shit unfortunately. It's still a drop in the bucket, though I do know what you're saying here. Last time I checked the math wasn't anywhere close to what's needed.

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........people simplify this stuff.  Some people might get priced out of a prescription in the US that they need.  That is atrocious.  When you take into account that a HIGHLY SKILLED & EDUCATED doctor needs to perform surgery to save some people it’s not quite as simple as saying “healthcare is a right”. If you don’t get this you are simple.  I truly feel for poor sick people but if the cost of their treatment is prohibitive to society it ain’t gonna happen.  Simple as that.  Life isn’t fair for any of us and cards that are dealt are dealt. 
      Quit crying about healthcare statistics.  Do you know anyone personally who is going to die and can’t receive treatment?  Doubt it.  If you do I bet the surgery is literally at the forefront of medicine.  Ya can’t offer that stuff for free without stealing someone’s time and livelihood. The country would collapse or surgeons and expert doctors will quit.  Also bankruptcy ain’t shit don’t seek medical treatment if you can’t afford it.  If you’re gonna die you won’t be turned away and at that point bankruptcy ain’t shit like I said.




This, is the unfortunate reality many still refuse to accept. You can still be compassionate toward the poor and sick and realize and accept this actual limitation in the chain.

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You are stubborn.  It doesn’t work that way.  It should but it never would.
At that point you need to rewrite what a Corp / company constitutes.  Way more than “raise taxes bro”




Again, you're unfortunately spot on. This isn't as simple as just reallocating resources. I feel like that's just as much a propaganda push by the left as anything by corporate fiends trying to keep shit in place. Many can't accept that the politicians whom are saying they'll help are in bed with the source of the issues people think voting them in will change, lol. They wouldn't be where they are if they could actually change the system AGAINST the powers that be. This should be logical yet so many still fall for authority granting rights, freedoms, etc.


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Re: British people try to guess US healthcare cost [Re: Loaded Shaman] * 1
    #26362271 - 12/05/19 05:53 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

So much :facepalm: in this thread. So much falling for propaganda. Its scary but quite fascinating.


I put this in another thread but I'm gonna sit it right here as well.....

Panicked Health Ins Companies Run Anti-Medicare For All Ads



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Re: British people try to guess US healthcare cost [Re: Boomer The Great]
    #26362334 - 12/05/19 07:05 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

that dewd in insanely annoying and mind numbing. who likes watching this crap? whats the point do you like jerk off cuz he makes you feel good of making fun of peoples views you don't like with high pitched voices?


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Re: British people try to guess US healthcare cost [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 1
    #26362367 - 12/05/19 07:20 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

You just can't handle facts and truth. You are a mindless full. Keep licking the boots. You are hopeless. Keep sucking bossmans dick you are good at it cheify!!!


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Re: British people try to guess US healthcare cost [Re: Boomer The Great]
    #26362381 - 12/05/19 07:26 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I know what lobbying is dewd I dont need listen to some jackass talk about it like hes 12.


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Re: British people try to guess US healthcare cost [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26362395 - 12/05/19 07:34 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Look you guys dont want the government to run fucking healthcare are you joking. Do you want your health care to be run like the fucking army? Are you retarded? So you think its gonna cost less? You think they're gonna do the right thing? Fucking calling me a bootlicker.


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Re: British people try to guess US healthcare cost [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 1
    #26362398 - 12/05/19 07:36 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah bootlicker refers to the top 1% bro not the government. :lol: when im using it.


you think people should profit off of people getting sick? you are an asshole. plain and simple


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Re: British people try to guess US healthcare cost [Re: Boomer The Great] * 3
    #26362403 - 12/05/19 07:38 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: British people try to guess US healthcare cost [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 1
    #26362406 - 12/05/19 07:39 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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CHeifM4sterDiezL said:
Do you want your health care to be run like the fucking army?




I thought America had the best military in the world?


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Re: British people try to guess US healthcare cost [Re: Boomer The Great]
    #26362407 - 12/05/19 07:41 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

If no one can make a profit whos gonna develop the new drugs for free with out anyone stealing the money?


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Re: British people try to guess US healthcare cost [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26362410 - 12/05/19 07:42 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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If no one can make a profit whos gonna develop the new drugs for free




Why on earth do you think pharmaceutical companies would stop developing drugs??


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Re: British people try to guess US healthcare cost [Re: YangSupporter]
    #26362415 - 12/05/19 07:44 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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CHeifM4sterDiezL said:
Do you want your health care to be run like the fucking army?




I thought America had the best military in the world?



do you understand how anything works little kid? we have the best military in the world because we flat out outspend everybody by a long shot.


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Re: British people try to guess US healthcare cost [Re: YangSupporter]
    #26362416 - 12/05/19 07:44 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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CHeifM4sterDiezL said:
If no one can make a profit whos gonna develop the new drugs for free




Why on earth do you think pharmaceutical companies would stop developing drugs??



why would they invest money into something they cant make a profit on?


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Re: British people try to guess US healthcare cost [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 1
    #26362419 - 12/05/19 07:46 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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If no one can make a profit whos gonna develop the new drugs for free with out anyone stealing the money?



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CHeifM4sterDiezL said:
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YangSupporter said:
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said:
If no one can make a profit whos gonna develop the new drugs for free




Why on earth do you think pharmaceutical companies would stop developing drugs??



why would they invest money into something they cant make a profit on?



They would still make a profit maybe not as high as they do now but they would still be making money. Not to mention there are other ways drugs can be developed non-profits government funded research many different ways your fears are overblown. I also find it quite sad how hard you are fighting to keep Americans down. Even right wing parties in many European countries support universal healthcare.


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Re: British people try to guess US healthcare cost [Re: YangSupporter] * 1
    #26362426 - 12/05/19 07:49 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

He's falling right into the gaslighting.

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Re: British people try to guess US healthcare cost [Re: YangSupporter]
    #26362427 - 12/05/19 07:50 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

nah fuck that then just move to china and pay taxes and take all the top people and pay them top dollar over there where theyre not retared. then ull just have good ole uncle sam


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Re: British people try to guess US healthcare cost [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 1
    #26362428 - 12/05/19 07:50 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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CHeifM4sterDiezL said:
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YangSupporter said:
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said:
Do you want your health care to be run like the fucking army?




I thought America had the best military in the world?



we have the best military in the world because we flat out outspend everybody by a long shot.




And if we spent more on healthcare Americans wouldn't need to pay for life saving medical procedures. Personally I think ensuring every American has access to healthcare is far more important than trying to have military bases all over the globe.


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