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Re: British people try to guess US healthcare cost [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] 2
#26361011 - 12/04/19 12:35 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: That'll totally work out rite?
Yes Mr Bossman.
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Re: British people try to guess US healthcare cost [Re: Jokeshopbeard] 1
#26361023 - 12/04/19 12:45 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you weren't getting the whole profit spurs innovation point I was trying to make in this thread then theres just no point in me trying. Have fun with your north korean propaganda.
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Re: British people try to guess US healthcare cost [Re: YangSupporter] 2
#26361024 - 12/04/19 12:45 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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YangSupporter said: The fear of communism has become so ingrained in American conservatives they use it as a slur to stop any attempts at bringing about greater equality for normal working Americans.

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Re: British people try to guess US healthcare cost [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] 3
#26361028 - 12/04/19 12:46 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: If you weren't getting the whole profit spurs innovation point I was trying to make in this thread then theres just no point in me trying. Have fun with your north korean propaganda.
Most innovation that benefits peoples lives comes from government funded scientific research. Profit motive produces pay to play apps and 500 different kinds of breakfast cereals.
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Re: British people try to guess US healthcare cost [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] 2
#26361039 - 12/04/19 12:54 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: If you weren't getting the whole profit spurs innovation point I was trying to make in this thread then theres just no point in me trying. Have fun with your north korean propaganda.
Have fun falling for the United States propaganda!!
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Re: British people try to guess US healthcare cost [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] 5
#26361043 - 12/04/19 12:55 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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"profit spurs innovation" a greedy fucks way of putting things so they can gauge people and dismiss others that don't like their idealism etc...
I'll say it again: A person/corp/business has 5 apples. They could give 3 apples away (or sell at a low cost that they still make money on) and still have 2 times the amount of the 3 people. BUT NOOOOOOO, they want to give one or even 1/4 of that fucking apple to the 3 and make them split it. They could make 2 billion and spread it to the workers that make the billions for them, but NOOOOOOO, they want their fucking 5 or even 10 billion and give as little as possible to the people that make their profits for them.
Corp: We want 5 billion.
People: but you can make 2 billion and we can have a good life.
Corp: NO!!! It is our right to make that 5 bill and fuck EVERYONE else because we simply can, and do.
 
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Re: British people try to guess US healthcare cost [Re: Boomer The Great] 3
#26361046 - 12/04/19 12:56 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I was trying to come up with something witty to say exactly that but got distracted...
Here Here!
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Re: British people try to guess US healthcare cost [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#26361078 - 12/04/19 01:21 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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It’s not just the corporations, we seem to have a large percentage of people here that would rather pay twice as much for something they can only use rather than pay half as much for a system that everyone can use. It helps them deal with their shit lives if they can make sure others have it worse.
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Re: British people try to guess US healthcare cost [Re: Kwyjibo]
#26361104 - 12/04/19 01:43 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I always feel clips like these are leaving out very specific parts of the equasion to make it seem like the US system is insane.
There is no free healthcare. Somebody is always paying for it, but in a lot of countries these costs are hidden in higher tax brackets and mandatory health insurances
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Re: British people try to guess US healthcare cost [Re: Tripsurfer] 1
#26361129 - 12/04/19 01:55 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I’d much rather pay the 2% Bernie is proposing vs the 10% I currently pay.
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Re: British people try to guess US healthcare cost [Re: Tripsurfer] 1
#26361131 - 12/04/19 01:57 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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i would gladly pay higher taxes for covered health. but we wouldn't even have to pay more. i say we cut military spending to compensate.
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Re: British people try to guess US healthcare cost [Re: Tripsurfer]
#26361132 - 12/04/19 01:57 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Can we all agree that individuals worth over $1b or making, say, $10m+ per year should pay a larger share of their profits? That they should pay for EVERYONE else’s healthcare, infrastructure, unemployment benefits, etc.?
Really asking. Just wondering how many people feel this would be wrong, cause the question is much more complex than it may seem. My economics professor thinks that the US is prosperous because our system lets the wealthy cheat & win. He theorizes that if/when the system changes, wealth will “move” to a different jurisdiction. Therefore, we gotta keep eating their shit, cause the alternative is having less shit to eat as a nation, so to speak.
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Re: British people try to guess US healthcare cost [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#26361138 - 12/04/19 02:01 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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wrestler_az said: everybody seems to want to latch onto one extreme or the other anymore. like, am i a communist bastard because i want free healthcare? i guess, maybe?
Universal healthcare has nothing to do with communism.
It does when it involves a government buy up of healthcare. It's a very slippery slope. Again some people in here are lit fucking insane. Oh yes instead of letting the government oversee healthcare corporations which we know is a corruptible system let's let the government run health and regulate it's own oversight. That'll totally work out rite?
I'm not typing this out again, so I'll just repost this:
"I've been hearing a lot on the news today that US citizens pay up to two and a half times more for the same medicines as we do in Europe, and Trump has been suggesting that we (Europeans) should pay more. Why. Isn't it usual practice that bulk purchasers of a commodity usually get better prices than smaller buyers, it's a normal part of the capitalist trading system. Bigger buyers get lower prices.
In Europes "socialised" health systems, Governments buy pharmaceuticals, for their entire countries which enables them to demand better deals on drugs from the manufacturers, than say, a local hospital in the US would".
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Re: British people try to guess US healthcare cost [Re: feldman114]
#26361144 - 12/04/19 02:03 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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because they don't want to.
and that's reason enough. compassion is not part of the american dream. the constitution doesn't say shit about giving a fuck about you, so why should i?
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Re: British people try to guess US healthcare cost [Re: deucedbi9]
#26361172 - 12/04/19 02:16 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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wrestler_az said: everybody seems to want to latch onto one extreme or the other anymore. like, am i a communist bastard because i want free healthcare? i guess, maybe?
Universal healthcare has nothing to do with communism.
It does when it involves a government buy up of healthcare. It's a very slippery slope. Again some people in here are lit fucking insane. Oh yes instead of letting the government oversee healthcare corporations which we know is a corruptible system let's let the government run health and regulate it's own oversight. That'll totally work out rite?
I'm not typing this out again, so I'll just repost this:
"I've been hearing a lot on the news today that US citizens pay up to two and a half times more for the same medicines as we do in Europe, and Trump has been suggesting that we (Europeans) should pay more. Why. Isn't it usual practice that bulk purchasers of a commodity usually get better prices than smaller buyers, it's a normal part of the capitalist trading system. Bigger buyers get lower prices.
In Europes "socialised" health systems, Governments buy pharmaceuticals, for their entire countries which enables them to demand better deals on drugs from the manufacturers, than say, a local hospital in the US would".
That's why people are pissed off. They can demand to pay anything they ask or they'll just steal it bro. Then turn around and talk shit. Its bullshit.
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Re: British people try to guess US healthcare cost [Re: wrestler_az]
#26361177 - 12/04/19 02:19 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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wrestler_az said: because they don't want to.
and that's reason enough. compassion is not part of the american dream. the constitution doesn't say shit about giving a fuck about you, so why should i?
Go reread the constitution specifically the bill of rights bud.
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Re: British people try to guess US healthcare cost [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#26361187 - 12/04/19 02:26 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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wrestler_az said: because they don't want to.
and that's reason enough. compassion is not part of the american dream. the constitution doesn't say shit about giving a fuck about you, so why should i?
Go reread the constitution specifically the bill of rights bud.
He kinda got you there, bud.
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Re: British people try to guess US healthcare cost [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] 1
#26361190 - 12/04/19 02:28 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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how long did it take em to add that part about slaves? or women voting? it's absolutely clear that even the founding fathers figured some people deserved more than others.
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Re: British people try to guess US healthcare cost [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#26361191 - 12/04/19 02:29 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Jokeshopbeard said: (China excluded, although I don't know if that's 'Third World' any more).
China never was third world
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Re: British people try to guess US healthcare cost [Re: wrestler_az]
#26361215 - 12/04/19 02:42 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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wrestler_az said: how long did it take em to add that part about slaves? or women voting? it's absolutely clear that even the founding fathers figured some people deserved more than others.
Well the argument against that is obvious- they had to make concessions to unite the colonies, so they let the landowners keep slaving.
But that’s not the point. Happiness is directly addressed in the constitution. Like, they use the word and everything.
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