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sam harris interviews roland griffiths, the johns hopkins psychedelic researcher
    #26359905 - 12/03/19 08:08 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

https://samharris.org/subscriber-extras/177-psychedelic-science/

Roland Griffiths, Ph.D., is a Professor in the Departments of Psychiatry and Neurosciences at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, and founding Director of the Johns Hopkins Center on Psychedelic and Consciousness Research. He is author of over 380 journal articles and book chapters, and has trained more than 50 postdoctoral research fellows. Roland has been a consultant to the National Institutes of Health, to numerous pharmaceutical companies in the development of new psychotropic drugs, and as a member of the Expert Advisory Panel on Drug Dependence for the World Health Organization.


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Re: sam harris interviews roland griffiths, the johns hopkins psychedelic researcher [Re: morrowasted]
    #26360645 - 12/04/19 08:55 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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https://samharris.org/subscriber-extras/177-psychedelic-science/

Roland Griffiths, Ph.D., is a Professor in the Departments of Psychiatry and Neurosciences at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, and founding Director of the Johns Hopkins Center on Psychedelic and Consciousness Research. He is author of over 380 journal articles and book chapters, and has trained more than 50 postdoctoral research fellows. Roland has been a consultant to the National Institutes of Health, to numerous pharmaceutical companies in the development of new psychotropic drugs, and as a member of the Expert Advisory Panel on Drug Dependence for the World Health Organization.




So what the fuck I have to pay to watch this? 
Not happening. Doubt hearing about sams trip is gonna be worth 5.99


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Re: sam harris interviews roland griffiths, the johns hopkins psychedelic researcher [Re: NOUS333]
    #26360687 - 12/04/19 09:18 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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So what the fuck I have to pay to watch this? 
Not happening. Doubt hearing about sams trip is gonna be worth 5.99




my sentiments exactly. i'd rather sit through some ads.


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Re: sam harris interviews roland griffiths, the johns hopkins psychedelic researcher [Re: wrestler_az]
    #26360906 - 12/04/19 11:28 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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So what the fuck I have to pay to watch this? 
Not happening. Doubt hearing about sams trip is gonna be worth 5.99




my sentiments exactly. i'd rather sit through some ads.




I wonder how long it will take to show up on youtube


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Re: sam harris interviews roland griffiths, the johns hopkins psychedelic researcher [Re: NOUS333]
    #26360912 - 12/04/19 11:33 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

i'm wondering how badly i need to see it at all? i bet i already know at least half the shit they talk about.


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Re: sam harris interviews roland griffiths, the johns hopkins psychedelic researcher [Re: wrestler_az]
    #26361096 - 12/04/19 01:35 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

oh shit I didn't realize it was on the subscriber only content. I support sam because I really like the podcast. i believe you can do a minimum donation of 4 dollars

Nah, they don't say much that you guys haven't already heard. just exciting to see authorities vindicating what we've collectively suspected for a long time now


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Re: sam harris interviews roland griffiths, the johns hopkins psychedelic researcher [Re: wrestler_az]
    #26361114 - 12/04/19 01:48 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

i mostly like sam harris, we agree on a lot of stuff. but not enough to give him any money. he's gonna lose a lot of views this way.


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Re: sam harris interviews roland griffiths, the johns hopkins psychedelic researcher [Re: wrestler_az]
    #26361173 - 12/04/19 02:17 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

he still has a free podcast feed, he just has some stuff you can only access if you're a subscriber. I fully support his decision not to cater to advertisers. he is free to say exactly how he feels, uncorrupted by the need to placate those advertisers. I personally think it's the right move


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Re: sam harris interviews roland griffiths, the johns hopkins psychedelic researcher [Re: morrowasted]
    #26361179 - 12/04/19 02:21 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

you're right. and he even offers you a free year subscription if you feel you can't afford it. an absolutely fair compromise. still, i'm fine with not hearing it...


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Re: sam harris interviews roland griffiths, the johns hopkins psychedelic researcher [Re: wrestler_az] * 1
    #26361260 - 12/04/19 03:06 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I used to love Sam Harris but I think his fame has caused him to become a narcissistic asshole.

Like he’s shocked that only 10% of his listeners pay him. Plus, before he promised if you made any donation at all you’d get premium content for life but then he reneged on that. Plus just the whole thing that anyone who disagrees with him is acting in “bad faith” or is a woke culture causality. It’s just gotten old.

I also don’t think he’s qualified to teach meditation. He’s obsessed with non-duality/illusion of self and it’s just not as amazing as he thinks it is. It’s like for the millionth time I get it.

Harris is a smart dude but he’s not as smart or as interesting as he thinks he is.

Once he come on and said he’s putting more than half of his material behind his paywall I unsubscribed. I don’t even care that he offers it for free. I still don’t want to hear his snotty spoiled rich kid voice anymore. 10% of his audience as paying subscribing plus his book sales is way more compensation than he deserves. It’s been like two years since he’s had an original thought. I’m just done with him.


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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

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Re: sam harris interviews roland griffiths, the johns hopkins psychedelic researcher [Re: TheFakeSunRa] * 1
    #26361312 - 12/04/19 03:38 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

He lost me after dedicating a whole intro of one podcast to mocking how "woke" one of his guests was, after the guest argued his point far more effectively than Sam. Totally different to what he said to the guys face.

I understand no one is perfect, but petty and pedantic gets old as fuck. Griffiths is cool as hell though, Ive actually chatted with him via email in the past. Nice guy and very down to earth, seems like exactly who should be doing this research


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Re: sam harris interviews roland griffiths, the johns hopkins psychedelic researcher [Re: feevers]
    #26361318 - 12/04/19 03:44 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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He lost me after dedicating a whole intro of one podcast to mocking how "woke" one of his guests was, after the guest argued his point far more effectively than Sam. Totally different to what he said to the guys face.

I understand no one is perfect, but petty and pedantic gets old as fuck.




I remember him doing that with a female guest as well.


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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

I disendorse you.[/quote]


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Re: sam harris interviews roland griffiths, the johns hopkins psychedelic researcher [Re: feevers]
    #26362500 - 12/05/19 08:42 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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He lost me after dedicating a whole intro of one podcast to mocking how "woke" one of his guests was, after the guest argued his point far more effectively than Sam. Totally different to what he said to the guys face.

I understand no one is perfect, but petty and pedantic gets old as fuck. Griffiths is cool as hell though, Ive actually chatted with him via email in the past. Nice guy and very down to earth, seems like exactly who should be doing this research



Which one?

I don't find him to be pedantic at all, personally. I think he does a good job of challenging people to defend their worldview. A lot of people weren't happy with the way the original Jordan Peterson podcasts went but I think the issues he was was raising with JP were legitimate and JP's responses were evasive.

I also think totally made an embarrassment out of Ezra Klein, and Ezra totally deserved it for the article he wrote.
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I remember him doing that with a female guest as well.



Which one? I'm confused, are you implying he should be less assertive with his views because, what... women are too delicate to handle it?

I appreciate that he is one of the few people sticking to his guns in challenging some of the leftist social dogmas, and I understand his frustration with the so-called "woke" left. They are frequently accusing him of racism or discounting his views on social programs simply because he is a cis white man. I'm glad that non cis white men are able to have a voice in intellectual conversations now that people are paying attention to, but rejecting someone's perspective on the basis of ad hominem never has and never will impress me.


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Re: sam harris interviews roland griffiths, the johns hopkins psychedelic researcher [Re: morrowasted]
    #26362505 - 12/05/19 08:44 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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He lost me after dedicating a whole intro of one podcast to mocking how "woke" one of his guests was, after the guest argued his point far more effectively than Sam. Totally different to what he said to the guys face.

I understand no one is perfect, but petty and pedantic gets old as fuck. Griffiths is cool as hell though, Ive actually chatted with him via email in the past. Nice guy and very down to earth, seems like exactly who should be doing this research



Which one?

I don't find him to be pedantic at all, personally. I think he does a good job of challenging people to defend their worldview. A lot of people weren't happy with the way the original Jordan Peterson podcasts went but I think the issues he was was raising with JP were legitimate and JP's responses were evasive.




You should screen capture/record sam talking about taking psilocybin and post here.


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Re: sam harris interviews roland griffiths, the johns hopkins psychedelic researcher [Re: NOUS333]
    #26362514 - 12/05/19 08:52 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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You should screen capture/record sam talking about taking psilocybin and post here.



He only mentions that he took psilocybin recently for the first time in like 20 years, but doesn't describe what the experience was specifically like. He has previously discussed some of his experiences, both good and bad, with MDMA and LSD when he was a young adult.

They honestly don't say anything you guys don't already know.

His brief conversation with richard dawkins about psychedelics was more entertaining. Talking about how if nothing else, taking psychedelics wakes people up the fact that it's possible to experience the world in a very different way, which is a gateway to empathy and understanding about the different ways that the same stimuli are perceived by different people. A lot of people are sort of "stuck" in their mindset and aren't even aware that it's possible to have a radically different experience of the world from the one they are having. Dawkins has apparently never done psychedelics but says Sam essentially sold him on trying it.


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Re: sam harris interviews roland griffiths, the johns hopkins psychedelic researcher [Re: morrowasted]
    #26362706 - 12/05/19 10:23 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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You should screen capture/record sam talking about taking psilocybin and post here.



He only mentions that he took psilocybin recently for the first time in like 20 years, but doesn't describe what the experience was specifically like. He has previously discussed some of his experiences, both good and bad, with MDMA and LSD when he was a young adult.

They honestly don't say anything you guys don't already know.

His brief conversation with richard dawkins about psychedelics was more entertaining. Talking about how if nothing else, taking psychedelics wakes people up the fact that it's possible to experience the world in a very different way, which is a gateway to empathy and understanding about the different ways that the same stimuli are perceived by different people. A lot of people are sort of "stuck" in their mindset and aren't even aware that it's possible to have a radically different experience of the world from the one they are having. Dawkins has apparently never done psychedelics but says Sam essentially sold him on trying it.



So Dawkins tried them?  That’s interesting stuff though. Lsd really did that for me


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    #26362968 - 12/05/19 12:52 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

No, but he made it sound like he was definitely interested in trying them


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    #26363263 - 12/05/19 03:52 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

ftr - I’m wasn’t talking about Sam arguing with person but commenting on the discussion afterward and throwing in weaksauce jabs when the person couldn’t respond (I know you want the specific shows but I’m done looking through his shit)

I’ve listened to him for years but I’m done

He’s too full of himself now

If others still enjoy him that’s cool too  - I’m sick of him though

I pretty much agree with 100% of what he says though


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You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

I disendorse you.[/quote]


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Re: sam harris interviews roland griffiths, the johns hopkins psychedelic researcher [Re: morrowasted]
    #26868531 - 08/07/20 02:32 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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You should screen capture/record sam talking about taking psilocybin and post here.



He only mentions that he took psilocybin recently for the first time in like 20 years, but doesn't describe what the experience was specifically like. He has previously discussed some of his experiences, both good and bad, with MDMA and LSD when he was a young adult.

They honestly don't say anything you guys don't already know.

His brief conversation with richard dawkins about psychedelics was more entertaining. Talking about how if nothing else, taking psychedelics wakes people up the fact that it's possible to experience the world in a very different way, which is a gateway to empathy and understanding about the different ways that the same stimuli are perceived by different people. A lot of people are sort of "stuck" in their mindset and aren't even aware that it's possible to have a radically different experience of the world from the one they are having. Dawkins has apparently never done psychedelics but says Sam essentially sold him on trying it.




Exactly.  That's why I like Sam Harris.  I'm only on this forum because he's convinced me through his book / podcast to try psychedelics for the reasons you outlined.


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