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The rules of cannabis: NZ Govt releases draft legislation for how cannabis could be bought and sold
    #26359864 - 12/03/19 07:42 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

The rules of cannabis: Govt releases draft legislation for how cannabis could be bought and sold



By: Damien Venuto


Link>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12290516



New Zealanders have been given a first glimpse at what they'll be voting for in next year's cannabis referendum.

The Government today announced the draft Cannabis Legalisation and Control Bill, designed to govern the recreational cannabis market should it come into effect.

The legislation specifies a minimum age of 20 to use or purchase a recreational cannabis product.

The draft legislation goes on to prohibit the consumption of cannabis in public spaces, limiting use to private homes and licensed premises.



Individuals will be allowed to carry only 14 grams of dried cannabis in a public space. The 14-gram rule allows applies to the amount of cannabis an individual is allowed to purchase in a day.

In America, a number of studies have tried to estimate the amount of cannabis in a marijuana cigarette, or joint.

A report by High Times, the cannabis magazine, said a typical joint contained one gram of marijuana. But an analysis of federal drug arrest data published in the journal Drug and Alcohol Dependence, found the average amount of weed in a joint to be much smaller than those estimates: just 0.32 grams.

On this basis 14g limit could produce anywhere between 14 and 42 joints.

Breaking this rule could lead to an infringement fee of $200 or a court-imposed fine of up to $500.

There is a complete ban on marketing and advertising of cannabis products, and only specifically licenced stores will be allowed to sell any products.


The draft legislation provides that alcohol and tobacco cannot be sold on premises where cannabis is sold or consumed.

Sales will be strictly limited to physical stores, meaning that online sales will not be permitted.


Any cannabis products sold will also be required to carry messages warning of the harm likely to be caused through the use of the product.

There will also be limitations on the potency of cannabis, with the draft legislation specifying the regulator will put limitations of level of THC the products can carry.

The legislation does allow for home growing of cannabis for personal use, but provides a strict limit of two plants on a property per person over 20. If there are two or more people living on the same property aged older than 20, then the limit is a total four plants.


It's important to note that these are not the final rules, but rather the first draft to be put for forward for submissions from the public and interested parties.

Given the divisiveness of the issue, today's announcement will likely spark debate about the impact the rules are likely to have.

"It's important that voters go into the 2020 General Election informed about the referendums. The Government is committed to a well-informed, impartial referendum process," said Justice Minister Andrew Little.

"My aim is to have the final draft Bill available by early next year, so there is time to argue for change."

Further to its objective of informing the public, the Government has released information on the www.referendum.govt.nz website relevant to both the personal use cannabis and end of life choice referendums.


The Government has also for the first time revealed the wording set to feature in the referendum.

Voters will be asked: "Do you support the proposed Cannabis Legislation and Control Bill?"

They will be offered two responses: 1) Yes, I support the proposed Cannabis Legislation and Control Bill; or 2) No, I do not support the proposed Cannabis Legislation and Control Bill.

"By making the referendum questions and the initial draft Cannabis Legalisation and Control Bill available early the intention is to encourage public awareness and discussion," said Little.

"It is important that the public feel they can meaningfully participate in the referendum process."


Early polling on the cannabis referendum has suggested a tight race.

A recent Horizon poll showed that around 48 per cent of Kiwis surveyed would vote yes for legalisation, as opposed to the 39 per cent sitting in the no camp.


Figures in the rolling poll, commissioned by local cannabis firm Helius Therapeutics, have fluctuated significantly over the last 12 months.

In November 2018, support sat at 60 per cent, before dropping to 52 per cent in April and then to an all-time low of 39 per cent in August.


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Re: The rules of cannabis: NZ Govt releases draft legislation for how cannabis could be bought and sold [Re: karode13]
    #26360187 - 12/03/19 11:14 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Meh. As a pot head/cannabis connoisseur, I personally wont be voting. I like how it's an illegal drug. :shrug:
I hope they keep it illegal. :hehehe:


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Re: The rules of cannabis: NZ Govt releases draft legislation for how cannabis could be bought and sold [Re: RogerTheRetard]
    #26361149 - 12/04/19 02:04 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Meh. As a pot head/cannabis connoisseur, I personally wont be voting. I like how it's an illegal drug. :shrug:
I hope they keep it illegal. :hehehe:






I can't tell if you're being serious or sarcastic.


If you're serious....

....why do you want the plant to remain illegal?





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Re: The rules of cannabis: NZ Govt releases draft legislation for how cannabis could be bought and sold [Re: RogerTheRetard]
    #26361218 - 12/04/19 02:43 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Meh. As a pot head/cannabis connoisseur, I personally wont be voting. I like how it's an illegal drug. :shrug:
I hope they keep it illegal. :hehehe:





You wont get much support from me on your opinion and the vast majority who've been convicted for possession wouldn't agree either. Pepper in the violence, gangs, toxic product that gets sold and I think you'd be soft in the head to think as you do.


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Re: The rules of cannabis: NZ Govt releases draft legislation for how cannabis could be bought and sold [Re: openmind]
    #26361267 - 12/04/19 03:10 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

RogerTheRetard said:
Meh. As a pot head/cannabis connoisseur, I personally wont be voting. I like how it's an illegal drug. :shrug:
I hope they keep it illegal. :hehehe:






I can't tell if you're being serious or sarcastic.


If you're serious....

....why do you want the plant to remain illegal?

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I knew some growers who were anti legalization, mainly as they knew it would crash the market and drive prices down.

That's pretty much the only anti legalization argument that makes sense, albeit very selfish. 

One argument I do agree with is limiting out of state investment. If legalization is rushed we end up with big companies coming in from out of state and taking over the market, causing it to crash even faster.

We already have reached a point where smaller grows are not profitable anymore, and the average grower isn't going to get a bulk license or have the resources to set up a massive warehouse operation.


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Re: The rules of cannabis: NZ Govt releases draft legislation for how cannabis could be bought and sold [Re: musiclover420]
    #26361451 - 12/04/19 04:59 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

people involved in gangs will suffer. But meh, I rather the prices be cheaper. fuck paying 350-450 for an ounce...


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Re: The rules of cannabis: NZ Govt releases draft legislation for how cannabis could be bought and sold [Re: Blazer420]
    #26362238 - 12/05/19 05:13 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Haha in my opinion these bastards are smart. Crafty cunts.

They know making this bullshit "legal" cannabis thing, it's gonna make bank for the government here.
Most New Zealand humans are pot heads and it's a huge market with heaps of money that gets thrown around by pot-heads on their cannabis infatuation.

As if I'll ever support the government and buy legal weed from "licensed stores".

It's a drug I'm dependent on (really like to consume), and I would rather not have the government grow it for me and sell it to me, fuck that.
I watch out where the shit I consume comes from.
I would rather support my bro who grows the shit in his basement and smoke on his product and give my money to him for his cannabis. :shrug:

If this comes true, I sure wont smoke the governments weed.

I can get heaps of mean cannabis strains that I desire illegally, just the way I like it. And I don't fuck with the government. I fuck with my illegal drug dealer mates who hook me up with amazing flowers.
Class C for Cannabis. :thumbup:


I sure don't want to see these dirty "licensed cannabis stores" popping up in Auckland, or anywhere in NZ for that matter.
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Re: The rules of cannabis: NZ Govt releases draft legislation for how cannabis could be bought and sold [Re: RogerTheRetard]
    #26362260 - 12/05/19 05:36 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

"Draft cannabis control legislation" JOKE!!!
"Strict controls and regulation on the potency of cannabis"
:lolz0rz:
Lol whatevers clever. I like my cannabis super potent and super illegal.


Terpines so delicious!
Why would I ever fuck with the government...

Fuck the system!
I don't wana ever ever ever have the governments cannabis in my stashbox. Grrr

No way will I put government weed into my precious lungs.

I'm gonna be so against "licensed cannabis store" product if this horrid crap comes true... God dayhmmm.


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Re: The rules of cannabis: NZ Govt releases draft legislation for how cannabis could be bought and sold [Re: musiclover420]
    #26363124 - 12/05/19 02:33 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Haha in my opinion these bastards are smart. Crafty cunts.


As if I'll ever support the government and buy legal weed from "licensed stores".

It's a drug I'm dependent on (really like to consume), and I would rather not have the government grow it for me and sell it to me, fuck that.

I would rather support my bro who grows the shit in his basement and smoke on his product and give my money to him for his cannabis. :shrug:


I sure don't want to see these dirty "licensed cannabis stores" popping up in Auckland, or anywhere in NZ for that matter.
:2cents:





Is all of the "legal" herb going to be grown specifically only by the government? (it doesn't specify it in the article).

Because here in California and other states in the US weed is legal, but it is not grown by the government at all in anyway. Any citizen (with enough $$) can start a cannabis business/farm, it is not grown by the government.

And no where in the article does it say people must only consume weed grown by the government...You make it sound like if this passes you will be forced to only smoke "government weed".....You will be allowed to grow your own plants and smoke your own weed or weed from friends & family.

You keep going on about how you don't want to smoke "government weed"...So just grow your own :shrug: . Or continue to support your brother that grows.

If this passes you will be able to grow your own plants with zero risk and zero worry about getting caught up & charged for "manufacturing drugs"/growing plants...You can't do that now.

You will be able to travel around with weed with out any worry about being charged for possession of drugs....You can't do that now.



You sound kinda irritated and angry about this whole thing, but if this passes nothing is actually changing for you at all besides the fact that you will be able to legally grow your own plants and you will legally be able to travel around with herb on you with out any worry about getting charged with possession.

If this doesn't pass....then it will still be illegal for you to grow weed and you can be charged with possession.

You are not getting any benefit from cannabis remaining illegal :shrug: .



What I gather is you don't want to smoke "government weed" so you want cannabis to remain illegal? You feel that people should continue to be charged/fined and locked up for possessing and growing weed because you don't want to smoke "government weed"?...That's a super silly and narrow minded point of view to have.





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Re: The rules of cannabis: NZ Govt releases draft legislation for how cannabis could be bought and sold [Re: openmind] * 1
    #26363129 - 12/05/19 02:35 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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I knew some growers who were anti legalization, mainly as they knew it would crash the market and drive prices down.

That's pretty much the only anti legalization argument that makes sense, albeit very selfish. 

One argument I do agree with is limiting out of state investment. If legalization is rushed we end up with big companies coming in from out of state and taking over the market, causing it to crash even faster.

We already have reached a point where smaller grows are not profitable anymore, and the average grower isn't going to get a bulk license or have the resources to set up a massive warehouse operation.





I knew some folks "in the game" too that were anti-legalization for similar reasons....Quite a handful of folks were.

And I hear ya on the topic about smaller growers/mom & pops not being profitable & being squashed or pushed out of the market.

There are some aspects of legalization I'm not a big fan of...the amount of $$$ and the hassle is takes for one to start a grow/business in the industry (it's set up for folks with lots of $ and pushes out the small guy/mom & pop growers).

The stupid high taxes, as long as taxes are like they are the black market isn't going anywhere.

Some petty things like possession & plant limits.

The way things are here in California isn't exactly my "preferred" way of "legalization"....

....but the bottom line is people are no longer being charged or locked up for possession/growing...

....I can now grow 6 plants with out any worry of of being caught up and locked in a cage.

I can now travel with an ounce of weed and a quarter ounce of extract and not have any worry about being charged with possession of a drug.



As long as I can grow my own plants are travel around with my own herb/hash with no worry about being fined/arrested, I'm content and don't have any real complaints....but I do feel some things should be changed.





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Re: The rules of cannabis: NZ Govt releases draft legislation for how cannabis could be bought and sold [Re: openmind]
    #26363316 - 12/05/19 04:16 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I'm anti gang. NZ is rife with it's poison and if it impacts them then it makes me happy. They should man up, up skill and get ajob like a real man would. You don't get a patch by being a nice person.

They are scum and little Mary shouldn't have to deal with rapists to score an under sized tinny. A lot of tinny houses sell P as well. Fuck the gangs.

NZ needs a social change and I believe this is one way to change how things are. De power the gangs and get the money back into the community, where it is very much needed. Public infrastructure, housing, schools and hospitals will benefit.


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Re: The rules of cannabis: NZ Govt releases draft legislation for how cannabis could be bought and sold [Re: openmind]
    #26363614 - 12/05/19 06:10 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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What I gather is you don't want to smoke "government weed" so you want cannabis to remain illegal? You feel that people should continue to be charged/fined and locked up for possessing and growing weed because you don't want to smoke "government weed"?...That's a super silly and narrow minded point of view to have.



Yeah you understand that I don't wanna be smoking the governments cannabis. :lol:
I would just be wary of where "licensed cannabis shops" product comes from.
Would probably just continue to buy weed off my friends, or grow it myself. :shrug:
I don't really care that much about the status of cannabis or any illegal drugs for that matter, but it would be interesting to see what happens, don't care about the law regardless and I don't let silly rules effect me.


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Re: The rules of cannabis: NZ Govt releases draft legislation for how cannabis could be bought and sold [Re: RogerTheRetard] * 1
    #26363665 - 12/05/19 06:41 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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What I gather is you don't want to smoke "government weed" so you want cannabis to remain illegal? You feel that people should continue to be charged/fined and locked up for possessing and growing weed because you don't want to smoke "government weed"?...That's a super silly and narrow minded point of view to have.



Yeah you understand that I don't wanna be smoking the governments cannabis. :lol:
I would just be wary of where "licensed cannabis shops" product comes from.
Would probably just continue to buy weed off my friends, or grow it myself. :shrug:
I don't really care that much about the status of cannabis or any illegal drugs for that matter, but it would be interesting to see what happens, don't care about the law regardless and I don't let silly rules effect me.





Even if licensed weed has to go through actual quality testing processes? Here in Oregon everything has to be tested for pesticides and mold before being sold in stores.

It may not be a perfect system yet but it's a big improvement over black market shit where people sell all sorts of gnarly moldy/chemy weed. Or extracts made from moldy/chemy weed :eek:

Another thing to consider at least here in the PNW is all the illegal outdoor grows polluting the environment, people siphon water and leave all sorts of gnarly trash, or let pesticides leach back into the water, etc. It's a pretty big problem in a lot of places. Legal grows go through a lot of verification to prevent crap like that.


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Re: The rules of cannabis: NZ Govt releases draft legislation for how cannabis could be bought and sold [Re: RogerTheRetard]
    #26363697 - 12/05/19 06:58 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah you understand that I don't wanna be smoking the governments cannabis. :lol:
I would just be wary of where "licensed cannabis shops" product comes from.






Is the government really going to be the sole producer of cannabis in NZ? Do you know this for fact or is it just an assumption you have? Or will NZ citizens be able to start a cannabis farm/business and grow it and sell it to distributors?...Because the way things are here in the US in legal states, the government does not grow the herb. So as long as one has the $$ and the permits, anyone can start a cannabis farm/growing business just like anyone can start a brewery.

And if the NZ government is going to be the only grower/producer...What are you specifically wary about?...And why are you not wary about where you herb comes from right now?...and same in regards to the all of the unregulated/black market herb in NZ in general.


Considering it is unregulated right now any grower can use any pesticide they want and you will never know because the herb you are smoking is not tested....Right now growers can use synthetic/toxic PGRs are you will never know because the herb you are smoking is not tested...Right now your herb can be contaminated with some traces of mold/fungus and you will never know because it's not tested.

When cannabis becomes legal it is a regulated market and it is tested for all sorts of different contaminants before it reaches the consumer...With that the consumer knows that the herb is "clean" and that it doesn't contain unapproved/toxic pesticides or is contaminated with mold/fungi.

A lot of people growing for the black market, purely for profit, don't give a shit about what pesticides or what they use.

Here in Cali within the legal market...everything is labeled/tested, one knows where the herb was grown, when the herb was harvested, when the herb was packaged.




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Would probably just continue to buy weed off my friends, or grow it myself. :shrug:
I don't really care that much about the status of cannabis or any illegal drugs for that matter, but it would be interesting to see what happens, don't care about the law regardless and I don't let silly rules effect me.






What if your brother who grows weed got caught up and arrested for growing?...Are you going to tell him to not let those silly "rules" affect him?

Or what if your friends who sell weed got caught up for possession...Can they just tell the cop that their silly rules don't apply?

Or what if you got caught up with some herb on you while out & about somewhere...are you going to tell the cop that you don't care about the law and that those silly rules don't effect you?

Those "silly rules" certainly apply when you get caught up with the law.



I'm sure there's quite a handful of folks in NZ that have been charged with possession of cannabis or growing cannabis, and other charges related to the herb....

....Saying you don't care about the status and that you want to keep cannabis illegal, so you feel that people should be continue to be fined and/or locked up in jail for possessing or growing weed?

You don't feel that people should be allowed to grow the plant legally in their homes/backyards?

It seems like you're so stuck on thinking that you're going to be forced to smoke "government weed" that you can't see the benefits that comes along with legalization...like being able to grow your own weed at home, and not being fined/arrested for what you call "silly rules" .



The only thing I feel that's a bit lame in regards to the way NZ wants to do this, is the max limit of 20% THC...That is stupid and doesn't make any sense for sooooo many different reasons...But if one wants herb with more than 20% THC, then all one has to do is grow their own.






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Re: The rules of cannabis: NZ Govt releases draft legislation for how cannabis could be bought and sold [Re: openmind]
    #26364032 - 12/05/19 11:10 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, if you have no connections in NZ or got shit connects, you get PRG, aka Viet. Tasteless, trichomeless and disgusting. It comes in cheap pounds and drug dealers/weed dealers get it for cheap and sell it to dumb stoners. :shrug:


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Re: The rules of cannabis: NZ Govt releases draft legislation for how cannabis could be bought and sold [Re: RogerTheRetard]
    #26367130 - 12/07/19 02:47 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Some people just want to go to jail. Since Cannabis became legal in Canada the price of legal and illegal cannabis keeps going down 5.59 a gram for illicit and  10.30 for legal weed.

Legal weed means cheaper weed and for people like me who grow their own it means no worries from the cops.

But if you want to buy from your local dealer with his one bag of weed that just happens to be whatever strain your looking go for it, personally I prefer the choice of the 90+ strains at the local legal shop. Plus the eatables and drinks and sprays and extracts and the list goes on.:ganja:


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Re: The rules of cannabis: NZ Govt releases draft legislation for how cannabis could be bought and sold [Re: rider420] * 1
    #26368244 - 12/08/19 02:38 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

"be limitations on the potency of cannabis"


That's a bad idea. NZ is doing what Canada did and try to appeal to the anti's, why make rules for the people that don't smoke? The system should be set up for tokers, and no toker anywhere would support a potency limit. People who want low potency weed can buy weak weed, forcing that on everyone is foolish. Potent cannabis means you smoke less, its better for you. Potent edibles means I don't have to eat a ton of sugar.

Every little thing like this drives people to the black market. In canada the legal weed is shitty and expensive, I haven't set foot in a legal store in 6 months.

"Individuals will be allowed to carry only 14 grams of dried cannabis in a public space"

How much alcohol can I carry? Why can I buy a truckload of booze but only 14 grams of weed? What is the limit on how many cigarettes I can buy?


"draft legislation goes on to prohibit the consumption of cannabis in public spaces, limiting use to private homes and licensed premises."


On one hand I don't want people blowing smoke on children, OTH if someone can smoke tobacco in an area than why I can't I smoke a joint there too? There should be some sort of acknowledgement that puffing a joint behind a club by a dumpster at 2 am is not the same as smoking it in front a daycare at 10 am. A blanket no smoking in public is stupid. At least they mentioned licensed premises, consumption lounges seem pretty rare in North America. I still dream of amsterdam style shops but where I live the hospitality workers have the right to smoke free workplace and fighting that shit is almost impossible....


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Re: The rules of cannabis: NZ Govt releases draft legislation for how cannabis could be bought and sold [Re: viraldrome]
    #26369407 - 12/08/19 04:31 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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"be limitations on the potency of cannabis"


That's a bad idea. NZ is doing what Canada did and try to appeal to the anti's, why make rules for the people that don't smoke? The system should be set up for tokers, and no toker anywhere would support a potency limit. People who want low potency weed can buy weak weed, forcing that on everyone is foolish. Potent cannabis means you smoke less, its better for you. Potent edibles means I don't have to eat a ton of sugar.



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Exactly buddy.
Fuck this shit... Annoying as fuck, may as well just keep it illegal.
I don't mind cannabis being a scheduled drug honestly.
I would rather things just stay the way they are here regarding cannabis and its illegal status.

It's all about making profit off stupid human beings at the end of the day anyway, they don't give a fuck about anything else honestly.

If making weed legal is a profitable move for the government, they will not hesitate to make the movement. And it seems like they are really trying to push this legal weed rubbish here. Which slightly annoys me.


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Re: The rules of cannabis: NZ Govt releases draft legislation for how cannabis could be bought and sold [Re: viraldrome]
    #26369506 - 12/08/19 05:15 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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viraldrome said:
"Individuals will be allowed to carry only 14 grams of dried cannabis in a public space"

How much alcohol can I carry? Why can I buy a truckload of booze but only 14 grams of weed? What is the limit on how many cigarettes I can buy?



HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAA
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:whathesaid:

Yet another Stupid as fuck rule these wankers here are proposing, it's just annoying the rules they are suggesting about cannabis, how about just illegal.

Or better yet in a perfect world, they would make cannabis legal, and not fuck with it. Leave humans to be self sufficient. And no laws regarding cannabis. Treat it as a plant and allow humans to consume and grow and smoke it if they want to. Just leave stoners alone.

Only allowed to carry half an ounce in a public space, what a JOKE.


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Re: The rules of cannabis: NZ Govt releases draft legislation for how cannabis could be bought and sold [Re: karode13]
    #26375780 - 12/11/19 06:57 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Congrats to NZ for trying to take a step forward in the legalisation of drug less harmful than alcohol and nicotine. I can't wait to see the addiction to and availability of harder drugs drop as weed becomes legal there. It'll do wonders to treat people like humans with empathy than to encourage seperatism and discrimination against them. I lived ina place where it was illegal my whole life. Now I love in a place where it's legal and I smoke once or twice a week, it's no longer counterculture or cool to smoke weed. It's just smoking weed. In a place where drugs are legal and it's about harm prevention we can think about our addictions clearly and seek help, an illegal environment encourages drug abuse and harm to a user. In a legal one we can focus on getting over an addiction and the prejudice associated with drug use.

Down to the gangs like the Mob, bandidos, head hunters and theyre Mexican and CHINESE suppliers and the government officials taking bribes from them. Put that tax to use in the health care system to help people get better and uplift families so we can stop addiction before it starts.

Also @ Roger the R:
So what it's only half an ounce is it not progress? Even if you get caught over it's a slap on the wrist and even then I know some cops wouldnt care if you had a pound as long as your not causing trouble or dealing without paying tax. The cops there barely care about weed now, this law is a step forward if it goes through. The smartest thing you can do if you care about others and have empathy and sympathy for people is vote Yes to legalisation.


Edited by amylase (12/11/19 07:04 PM)


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