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Unmodified shoebox
    #26359840 - 12/03/19 07:25 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

After reading through a few teks mixing spawn/coir do I leave the lid on? Shoeboxes have airtight latch but I though it needs FAE for pinning?


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Re: Unmodified shoebox [Re: Mr_enforcer1]
    #26359848 - 12/03/19 07:29 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Shoeboxes shouldn’t be air tight unless they have a gasket. U can leave them shut all the way to harvest if u want. I like to dub tub once mostly colonized so I can watch them grow and provide better FAE


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Re: Unmodified shoebox [Re: Mr_enforcer1]
    #26359850 - 12/03/19 07:30 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

needs gas exchange (GE) not fresh air exchange (fae) while colonizing and vice versa when initiating pinning/fruiting. Most teks say to put into fruiting asap. this is all new to me as well since ive been following 5+ year old procedure as well


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Re: Unmodified shoebox [Re: Phycus]
    #26359854 - 12/03/19 07:36 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Yes but how do I achieve GE with the latched lids? Should I drill a couple 1/4 holes in the lid with polyfill?


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Re: Unmodified shoebox [Re: Mr_enforcer1]
    #26359862 - 12/03/19 07:41 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

i am experimenting as we speak. i have dubbed my 16qt box (3 days ago) and we are at 50% already. TC is my flavor. what are you getting to grow?
also, i would look A LOT more into these teks. your modifications will depend largely on your ambient situation (fans, humidty temp etc) and youll have to modify from there. RN, i have a positive pressure chamber built that keeps everything at a perfect 78 deg and constant FAE.
Id dub it and pore tape the two together with a single strip going around the rolled edges to keep them together. tape doesnt need to be perfect just keep em together square on, not tilted or cocked


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Re: Unmodified shoebox [Re: Phycus]
    #26359879 - 12/03/19 07:50 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I’m using bods easy af shoebox tek, I don’t have time to mess with it much, no fan, mist once or twice a week, just put a bag over it  done.


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Re: Unmodified shoebox [Re: Mr_enforcer1]
    #26359881 - 12/03/19 07:53 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

that tek is a little skant IMO. doesnt explain anything. kind of like an old drill sergeant i had. dont ask questions just do!


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Re: Unmodified shoebox [Re: Phycus]
    #26359895 - 12/03/19 08:04 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

The thing is this batch is MS from left over agar from transfers and grains that didn’t make the cut for G2G so I’m not expecting much. Is there much difference from putting it in fruiting conditions from the start?


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Re: Unmodified shoebox [Re: Mr_enforcer1]
    #26359911 - 12/03/19 08:11 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Got any pictures? How long has it been?


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Re: Unmodified shoebox [Re: Mr_enforcer1]
    #26359912 - 12/03/19 08:11 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

yes. for one you have much more airflow than youd have if you snapped the lid shut. Also, i wouldnt completely discount the MS agar youve got going. sometimes giants sleep.


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Re: Unmodified shoebox [Re: Phycus] * 1
    #26359925 - 12/03/19 08:18 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Check this out

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started using em round 2 years ago and now they are all I use anymore :thumbup:

I don't put them in monos thou. I either just leave the lids on or dub them.








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Re: Unmodified shoebox [Re: SFS96]
    #26359940 - 12/03/19 08:26 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Sweet pictures there, what happens when they outgrow the shoebox, just pull them?


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Re: Unmodified shoebox [Re: bizbizbiz]
    #26359941 - 12/03/19 08:28 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Just let the stems bend, they won’t be perfectly straight but it doesn’t matter.


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Re: Unmodified shoebox [Re: SFS96]
    #26359945 - 12/03/19 08:30 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

looks good! i prefer the canopy/unobstructed grow so hopefully mine dont get this way. im in the middle of switching shoesboxes ATM. Also, i was not trying to tell the OP that you HAVE to do dubs, its just my own personal preference. youve got extra room in there and air. call me autistic but it sounds good!


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Re: Unmodified shoebox [Re: SFS96]
    #26359948 - 12/03/19 08:32 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

What’s your best suggestion for a bulk substrate recipe?


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Re: Unmodified shoebox [Re: Phycus]
    #26359958 - 12/03/19 08:41 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Don’t get me wrong I prefer to dubtub because I like to watch them grow. I was just showing that it’s not completely necessary. I normally wait for colonization before I dubtub because I can stack them to save space.

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What’s your best suggestion for a bulk substrate recipe?



I like to use the classic coir bucket Tek.  1 brick of coir 2quarts of vermiculite and I like to use 3.5qts of water instead of 4. This is enough for 4 shoeboxes at a 1:2 ratio spawn to substrate.


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Re: Unmodified shoebox [Re: SFS96]
    #26360131 - 12/03/19 10:21 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I like to use the classic coir bucket Tek.  1 brick of coir 2quarts of vermiculite and I like to use 3.5qts of water instead of 4. This is enough for 4 shoeboxes at a 1:2 ratio spawn to substrate.





That’s cool gives me hope


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Re: Unmodified shoebox [Re: bizbizbiz]
    #26361174 - 12/04/19 02:17 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I started out dubbing shoeboxes but it’s way easier to just put the lid on. I haven’t noticed any difference other than them being much easier to handle and stack.

If you’re using the normal 1.00 shoeboxes the lid won’t be airtight.

I also started off wrapping with foil for like 5 days to colonize then fruiting but now I just put an extra layer of coir on at spawn and go right to fruiting. No noticeable difference.


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Re: Unmodified shoebox [Re: A.k.a]
    #26361229 - 12/04/19 02:48 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Do you float your tubs in between flushes?


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Re: Unmodified shoebox [Re: bizbizbiz]
    #26361234 - 12/04/19 02:55 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I’ve only done a handful of grows but yes I do now. My first couple I just sprayed down with the mister til they were pretty soaked and it seemed to work fine.

Then I got a third flush off my very first one and it had shrunk a lot so I soaked it for a couple hours not expecting much from it after three flushes, and two days later it was popping pins out all over so now I soak them.


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