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LogicaL Chaos
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Multi-Drug Tolerance?
#26359259 - 12/03/19 02:36 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Anyone here resistent to more than one classic psychedelic drug? For example, u need a lot of Acid or Shrooms to get into Psychedelic Mind Mode?
Ive met two people who have this so I think theres some relationship there.
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Im not sure, i know thats not the best answer but, first, what do you mean by pychadelic mind experience?
For me, i have always felt like ive been on the higher spectrum for tolerance. When i first started tripping i started with a friend, same stuff, same time ect.
We ended up splitting up but later he described his trip as seeing faces move and contort and all of this other stuff while i have minor visuals, off one tab.
Multiple trips later he tells me everything he sees and when he looks in the mirror but for me, even off of 4-5 tabs i havent had an experience like that, same when i used to take a lot of shrooms.
The most ive experienced was off 4 tabs, i was outside and the starts were soo wavy, like an ocean of lights, it was beautiful. But seeing faces move(eyes going down the face ect) and seeing things, never.
Ive seen colors in edges like rainbows, ive seen patterns but theyre very basic. If i could explain it, imagine it like this, covering my full vision in a purple/black and maybe sometimes other colors.
++++ ++++ ++++ Not only that but sometimes squares? thats on like 2-3 tabs. Shrooms for me has always been more of a feeling/CEV/auditory vs actually tripping, and ive done decent amounts as you could see on my page.
If this isnt what you meant please explain, im curious as well to see if anyone else is like me or if youre more sensitive yourself. Oohh before i forget, as far ive i know ive never had ego death but do try to let it "take over" sometimes. i dont know everyones different i guess. i also just made a post about a friend i have who off 1 tab first time tripping went mute the whole tripped and described it after as seeing heaven to his left and hell to his right yet me and the other people all just had minor visuals and good time.
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Now this is very very interesting. Im not surprised at all honestly, like someone said on that post its even a little scary. I wish there were more research. Its interesting to me though how it says more relaxed people react easier because im always relaxed, im a stoner lol.
Nothing wrong with me mentally and im healthy, makes me wonder why i react that way when it seems to say that the ones with obsessive disorders and superficial people have a harder time. In my experience(obviously im no scientist they probably had way better research) its seems to be the opposite, as i know not for sure whether something is wrong with my friend who had the biggest reaction, i could believe it as ive seen and heard some odd things from him and have thought it myself. Regardless do you have any more information on this or similar?
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Re: Multi-Drug Tolerance? [Re: NoobShroob]
#26359566 - 12/03/19 04:47 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'll try to look for any more research info on this specifically if I get a chance and post back. That specific bit is from Stan Groff and quoted from his book, LSD: Doorway to the Numinous. You might consider looking into his work in general for more insight along these lines. He has several presentations & interviews on youtube, and lots of books
Generalized take away would be that individual reaction to psychedelics is almost entirely determined by one's psychology. We all have highly individual psychological make up due to what we each experienced in our earliest years, when our brains learned how to function in the world. In our very first years, our brains are programmed to survive within our environments, and the brain develops our personality & everything that goes with it.
These are the things that largely determine how one will react to a psychedelic.
These are also the things that determine how one reacts to everything experienced day to day, minute to minute.
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I've tried MDMA probably 10-15 times - nothing. No speedy effect, no psychoactive effects. To the point that I've always known to just pass in courtesy of not wasting someone else's dose. Meanwhile, I sit pretty much on the median with every other dose/effect. For instance, 5g standard cubensis is where my adventure really begins, 1.5g will usually see me consciously hallucinating to varying degrees.
I mention often, my anomalous 5' 110lb friend who needs those same 5g to start to really feel anything. However, MDMA pumps through her just as easily as the median.
My better half has tried mushrooms probably ~10 times - nothing. She would never in her life try MDMA, so I can't speak of that correlation.
Interesting beasts, we are.
I've heard theories about individual levels of neurotransmitters having an effect on this, which makes sense to me. But, what I've heard was usually based around the serotonin receptors... which, in hindsight, doesn't really make sense to me.
Might have to go on a little sci-hub bender.
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Re: Multi-Drug Tolerance? [Re: footpath]
#26359609 - 12/03/19 05:10 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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With a lot of people, there are also going to be considerations of various prescription meds & their interactions at play... since a lot of people are on meds, and you don't always necessarily know
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Definitely. People on here shit on me for how much I need. Not on any meds and need double what my friends use to get the same effect.
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Pm me sometime, i wonder how similar are trips are.
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Re: Multi-Drug Tolerance? [Re: NoobShroob]
#26359796 - 12/03/19 06:56 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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My brother could eat 30mg 4acodmt and hardly have visuals, meanwhile I get mad visuals off 8mg.
Bit odd honestly!
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Re: Multi-Drug Tolerance? [Re: hamonz]
#26362033 - 12/04/19 11:55 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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A huge difference! Is he tolerant to other psychs as well such as mushrooms or LSD?
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Dr. Rosalind Watts, who leads trial research on psilocybin for depression at Imperial College London.
Around 13m 26s into this video, a discussion on individuals not experiencing any effects from normal/high dosages.
Rest of interview contents:
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-- the current state of psilocybin for depression research at Imperial College London -- exploring the results of their previous study of treating depression with psilocybin -- -- when do the results fade? -- why do some people have no effects when the take psilocybin -- -- how that relates to safety and polyvagal -- the visualization metaphor they use to help people prepare for their psilocybin session -- how society pushes us to dissociate or emotions and the value of feeling our uncomfortable feelings -- the value of safety during psychedelic therapy -- “this is not just a brain reset; this is a journey.” -- the positive potentials and problematic pitfalls of microdosing psilocybin -- why the depression comes back after psilocybin treatment -- it takes so much courage to do this thing -- the value of grief and sorrow to heal your life -- depression and self-forgiveness -- how directive is psilocybin-assisted psychotherapy during the psilocybin session? -- how psilocybin helps people heal depression -- does psilocybin hold an innate healing intelligence? -- the Accept, Connect, Embody (ACE) model for finding meaning through emotional journeying -- how Watts’ team using the ACE model in their psilocybin for the treatment of depression study -- experiential avoidance and its role in depression -- meaning, what is it? is it found or made or both?
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Quote:
LogicaL Chaos said: A huge difference! Is he tolerant to other psychs as well such as mushrooms or LSD?
Yeah I get visuals from way less than he does. He can handle quite a bit of whatever he does when it comes to psychs. I should note I have a pretty bad case of hppd from taking too much lsd and nbomes but my brother was right there with me the whole time and has none symptoms of it.
Didn't mean to veer it off topic but I do think its rather interesting nonetheless.
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Re: Multi-Drug Tolerance? [Re: hamonz]
#26366199 - 12/07/19 02:30 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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My wife has DCD and requires 1,400mcg of LSD to trip, took 12 grams of very strong MHRB on 50 grams of some moderately strong caapi and just got some mild agitation while my friend and I had intense journeys on 3.5g of the same batch, we each took 7 grams of the same batch of mushrooms and I was gone and totally lost in the desert while she had minimal effects though enhanced bodily control. 100mg 4-AcO-MET combined with 30mg 4-AcO-DMT was less intense than weed she said.
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