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My experience with the fabled "dust" 1
#26359126 - 12/03/19 01:40 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Forgive me father for I have sinned. It has been 7 weeks since my last trip.
So I've heard many things about mushroom "dust." This is the fine particulate matter that accumulates in the bottom of a jar of properly dried and stored mushrooms. Well it just so happened that today I had some free time and was nearing the bottom of a 50 gram mason jar of field picked p cubensis. Now these were properly dehydrated and stored in mason jars with desiccant and were crumbly, cracker dry. You know. Proper. To make my teas all I have to do is measure out my dose, put it in my hand, and make a fist...and it completely pulverizes immediately to very fine powder. That's how dry my cubes are. As a result, and again it at one time containing 50 dry grams, there was a lot of this dust by the time I got to the end of this particular jar. 8 grams to be exact.
I'd heard that the "dust" is more potent...not really sure why. It's certainly more dense, meaning what looked like 4 or 5 grams when eyeballing it was actually 8. Maybe that's what people mean.
And the tea...it certainly looked and tasted more potent. This tea was much darker brown than my usual 8 gram teas, and practically glowing with a blue green halo around the rim. I wish I'd taken a few pictures. And oh, the smell and the taste. It REEKED of psilocybe cubensis. It gagged me with every sip. My stomach is still churning just thinking about the experience of drinking this stuff.
Now I'm an experienced tripper. My last trip was 8 grams potentiated with 4 grams of rue and that night I had my first true breakthrough. But this tea just looked and smelled lethal. So I played it safe and used no rue.
I can say this with certainty: there is, without a doubt, a genuine difference between a tea made from whole crushed cubes and a tea made from the dust at the bottom of the jar. Difference in saturation, hue, smell and taste. SOMETHING that is of the essence of psilocybe cubensis is definitely more potently concentrated in dust based teas.
However, my friends, I'm sorry to report that at least in my experience that something is not psilocybin. Or psilocin or baeocystin or whatever. I'm not playing word games with y'all. This shit was weak. 8 grams. Level 1. Maybe level 1 and a half. Mild stoned feeling, very few visuals if I really shut my eyes and concentrated on it. I most definitely could have safely driven to the grocery store to pick up a pound of sugar or a 6 pack or whatever.
I've never been so let down. I did everything right. I had an empty stomach. I haven't tripped in nearly two months. And I was really excited to experience the mythical dust. The only part about the whole experience that was amplified was the objectionable taste and smell of the tea.
I will never do mushroom dust again. It's everything that sucks about shrooms, multiplied, while the good part of the trip, diminished.
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Re: My experience with the fabled "dust" [Re: individualist]
#26359158 - 12/03/19 01:50 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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I remember the days of getting bags that had alot of stems and dust from bad dealers. Never consumed the dust aside from a little to taste.
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Re: My experience with the fabled "dust" [Re: Shroomhunts]
#26359170 - 12/03/19 01:58 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've only ever picked my own shrooms straight from the wild, never bought from a dealer (except for some truffles in Amsterdam but that's a total nother story).
But yeah, I would regard a high proportion of dust in my buy to be bad form on the dealer's part.
I think the reputation for dust being more potent boils down to three things:
1) unethical dealers hyping up a shitty product
2) The dust IS more dense. If you go by eyeball you're absolutely taking more than if you weigh it.
3) Confusion about which drug you're talking about. This is not weed, and mushroom dust is not kief. Again, whole 'nother story
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Re: My experience with the fabled "dust" [Re: individualist]
#26359218 - 12/03/19 02:21 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Considering oxidation. Seems right that the dust would loose it's potency faster but would the dust even be that potent to begin with? I would assume not since it's the stuph that just flakes off. Grow your own. It's a happy time.
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Re: My experience with the fabled "dust" [Re: LosTresOjos]
#26360157 - 12/03/19 10:42 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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I laughed. Nice story telling.
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Re: My experience with the fabled "dust" [Re: LosTresOjos]
#26423270 - 01/08/20 04:39 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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My working hypothesis is that the “dust” disproportionately consists of gill matter, which is strong in taste and smell of cubensis, but lacking in psilo.
This would have to be confirmed by someone with more biological/biochemical knowledge of the species
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Re: My experience with the fabled "dust" [Re: individualist]
#26423306 - 01/08/20 05:04 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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My experience wasn't the dust per se, but instead all the tiny little mushrooms that never matured that I plucked and dried. Pins.
One morning I decided to eat a handful, and I wondered if I would even feel anything.
Blew my doors off, man. It hit me like a ton of bricks.
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Re: My experience with the fabled "dust" [Re: individualist]
#26423307 - 01/08/20 05:05 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Dust has a greater surface area so it absorbs more readily. It's like trying to smoke an entire nug whole, in a bowl vs a ground up dose of the same mass. In short, it's not more potent just absorbed faster. Kinda like tea vs eating whole dried mushrooms.
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Re: My experience with the fabled "dust" [Re: individualist]
#26423378 - 01/08/20 05:52 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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My working hypothesis is that the “dust” disproportionately consists of gill matter, which is strong in taste and smell of cubensis, but lacking in psilo.
I agree. Spores are said to give a distinct taste if allowed to drop onto a flush. Also, after the veil breaks no more psilocybin is produced so...
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Great story! Thanks for the information. Very helpful.
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Re: My experience with the fabled "dust" [Re: individualist]
#26423774 - 01/08/20 11:31 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ive heard stories from my friends of them taking the "dust" which they called the "spores" at the bottom of the ounce of dealer shroom bag. This black "spore" dust was so powerful that the person who took it would black out during their trip, end up in random spots in their house during the entire trip. Really weird stuff.
Ive done the black dealer shroom "spore dust", so i cant say from personal experience what it does. But i will say my own shrooms do become dust over time in the baggie, but the entire dried shroom crumbles to dust, not just ons specific part.
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Re: My experience with the fabled "dust" [Re: individualist]
#26424888 - 01/09/20 03:03 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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individualist said: I think the reputation for dust being more potent boils down to three things:
1) unethical dealers hyping up a shitty product
2) The dust IS more dense. If you go by eyeball you're absolutely taking more than if you weigh it.
3) Confusion about which drug you're talking about. This is not weed, and mushroom dust is not kief. Again, whole 'nother story

There is absolutely nothing different about the "dust". Certainly nothing that would make it more potent.
The dust is nothing more than tiny fragments/particles of mushrooms . When dry mushrooms are stored in a bag and handled over a period of time, over time fragments/particles will accumulate at the bottom. That's all that stuff is. I never understood why some people think dust/particles at the bottom of the bag are somehow more potent than the mushroom the particles came from.
It's not like cannabis....where kif/hash is more potent, kif/hash is more potent because it is composed entirely of trichome heads which is where the vast majority of the cannabinoids resides.
With mushrooms...the alkaloids are distributed pretty evenly through out the entire fruit. It's not like the alkaloids are only within dust particles that fall off the mushroom.
The only thing that could potentially make a dose of the "dust" seem more potent is because of the huge increase in surface area making for a faster and better absorption...but I also feel that huge increase in surface area will also likely cause the alkaloids in the "dust" to oxidize and breakdown easier/more so than the alkaloids within the flesh of an intact mushroom.
Myself...I always considered the dust/particles at the bottom of a bag to be much weaker than eating actual mushrooms.
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Re: My experience with the fabled "dust" [Re: openmind]
#26426886 - 01/10/20 04:43 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I ate about 2g of bottom bag type "dust and small shroom bits" a bit over an hour ago, my pupils are huge, the screen on my laptop is super hard to see as everything is kinda bleeding color. music is dope, especially with the Bose QC15s I snagged cheap today. wouldn't say it's a wild trip thus far, but I think i'll get a decent level one which I was goin for
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Re: My experience with the fabled "dust" [Re: 330ci]
#26433695 - 01/14/20 06:13 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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So how would you rate it in retrospect?
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Re: My experience with the fabled "dust" [Re: individualist]
#26433768 - 01/14/20 06:44 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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shit got weird man, much more intense than I expected. Mild visuals when I was smoking marijuana, completely hightened emotions, ended up ubering to the movies they had an auto player piano there, I ended up tripping out listening to the beautiful music it had for about an hour waiting for my movie.I Saw Uncut Gems, it had some trippy visuals, was a bit scary at times as there was some wild shit that happened in the movies. I tranced out a bit near the end and just remember some people waking me up or whatever and I was still tripping, I just kinda looked at them, they laughed and I just peaced out. smoked some more weed, and my body just felt really hollow. I had such a rush of thoughts and inspiration though without too much visual interference. the afterglow was/has been great. haven't been able to take my headphones off lol. I definitely find myself gravitating more towards lower dose shroom trips than LSD now that i've found a few steady sources. the trips aren't as intense but I find them to be much more beneficial to me in a therapeutic sense.
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Re: My experience with the fabled "dust" [Re: 330ci] 1
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Shroom dust is the secret!
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Re: My experience with the fabled "dust" [Re: mushboy]
#26434356 - 01/15/20 05:40 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Was reading and waiting for you to tell us how you blasted off into a geometric spaceship - you left me disappointed as well 
But if that's the case, at least your tolerance has not neeen compensated and you can make up for lost time
Its only happened twice... but when you take a dose expecting to have your socks blown off and end up just parking your car in the lot and never getting on the rollercoaster. It's most definitely a shame.
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Vibe_Enthusiast said: Its only happened twice... but when you take a dose expecting to have your socks blown off and end up just parking your car in the lot and never getting on the rollercoaster. It's most definitely a shame.
For me, pal, that’s the worst feeling in the world. I mean, a week of worry and planning, the preparation, the come up anxiety, then that’s it 😨
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Quote:
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Vibe_Enthusiast said: Its only happened twice... but when you take a dose expecting to have your socks blown off and end up just parking your car in the lot and never getting on the rollercoaster. It's most definitely a shame.
For me, pal, that’s the worst feeling in the world. I mean, a week of worry and planning, the preparation, the come up anxiety, then that’s it
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Vibe_Enthusiast said: Was reading and waiting for you to tell us how you blasted off into a geometric spaceship - you left me disappointed as well 
But if that's the case, at least your tolerance has not neeen compensated and you can make up for lost time
Its only happened twice... but when you take a dose expecting to have your socks blown off and end up just parking your car in the lot and never getting on the rollercoaster. It's most definitely a shame.
I definitely got about what I expected, I would've liked a bit more geometric patterns, the only time my vision was overtaken by patterns was when I was smoking, other than that there was the general breathing effects but not of the squigly blurple lines that seemed to take over my vision when I took a large hit of weed. I met some chick yesterday whose got the hook up on some PE alledgedly, so hopefully we shall see what she comes up with. I wanted to start growing them myself but it looks like i'm going to be moving here yet again so I will be waiting until after that happens to start my own mushroom straining endeavors.
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