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Ordering crystal MDMA overseas question to all
    #26358854 - 12/03/19 10:33 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Well no surprise you can buy ANY drugs off the dark web & I myself have successfully gotten many packages from the netherlands but I've wondered what is the chance of a vaccume sealed package of say no more than 7 grams of crystal MDMA is found in a flat everyday small envelope.. and even after its found what are the chances of me getting in legal trouble for ordering it? Keep in mind I always use tor and do my transactions discreetly. Just want some input if you guys have ever been caught or packages seized with drugs.


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Re: Ordering crystal MDMA overseas question to all [Re: Mneeb]
    #26359032 - 12/03/19 12:43 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

I'm wondering as well. I'd guess you could argue you don't know who sent this to you or why, and it could make sense: I know it's a scheme to order stuff with stolen credit cards for example and have it delivered to someone else's mailbox or abandoned house. You stake the place around the time it's supposed to be delivered and come get it. So it could be someone else who did that to you... But I suspect that depending where you live this could be enough to request a warrant for your place and who knows what might be found then. I'm not a lawyer, just spitballing.

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Re: Ordering crystal MDMA overseas question to all [Re: opsh]
    #26359048 - 12/03/19 12:52 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Well i dont do this anymore so maybe things have changed but its very jard to charge u witha package beong sent to you. Once you take it inside your place and open it you have a risk so try not to have to much illegal shit in ir place or what i did u can take said envelope and put ot on your car and leave it for a couple days . the cops wont watch u that long and if u get pulled over you van say u dont know who sent it or anything if its notopened you cant be charged though either way


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Re: Ordering crystal MDMA overseas question to all [Re: lighthouse09]
    #26359051 - 12/03/19 12:53 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

And i learned that from a narcotics agent who sold pot i use to work with so i trust what he said


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Re: Ordering crystal MDMA overseas question to all [Re: opsh]
    #26359059 - 12/03/19 12:59 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Good way to look at it. I keep my stash in ironicly a big salt rock lamp that looks kinda like the crystals just pulled the light bulb out from inside of it and covered the bottom up it's got lots of room for storage. I do suppose you could say that it was your neighbor? Still wondering what would happen in the case it was asshole police. My small town has real dick heads in office that pull u over for tints and stupid shit. So I'd assume the worst possible thing they could do..


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Re: Ordering crystal MDMA overseas question to all [Re: Mneeb] * 2
    #26359076 - 12/03/19 01:09 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Well if I learned anything from hearing how people dug their own graves after being arrested it's this: do. not. talk. to. the. police. In every democracy in the world, you have a right to remain silent and not answer questions while in custody. You also don't have to go or stay in custody if you're not under arrest (varies per country though). If they question you, it's because they don't have enough to do you in, otherwise they'd charge you right away. So be smart and don't say anything at all, even on things that seem unrelated. They've been doing this a lot more than you have and are most likely much better at it than you are. Ask for a lawyer. And keep your mouth shut.

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Re: Ordering crystal MDMA overseas question to all [Re: opsh]
    #26359100 - 12/03/19 01:23 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Wish I could upvote your comment. But I'll comment a thumbs up :thumbup:


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Re: Ordering crystal MDMA overseas question to all [Re: Mneeb]
    #26359115 - 12/03/19 01:35 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

FYI, Customs will send you a love letter telling you they snagged your stash if it is a low, clearly for personal use amount of drugs. If you order a large amount they would actually do a controller delivery, but the government doesn't want to waste large amounts of money for charging people with minor crimes (surprisingly, well at least when it comes to Customs :lol:).
I would just order domestic, or from a less "hot" country.


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Re: Ordering crystal MDMA overseas question to all [Re: madmodder]
    #26359598 - 12/03/19 05:04 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

:cop: cheap as fuck over here


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Re: Ordering crystal MDMA overseas question to all (moved) [Re: Mneeb]
    #26360145 - 12/03/19 10:33 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

This thread was moved from Other Drugs Discussion.

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Better fit here at S&S.

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Re: Ordering crystal MDMA overseas question to all [Re: Mneeb]
    #26361462 - 12/04/19 05:03 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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Mneeb said:
Well no surprise you can buy ANY drugs off the dark web & I myself have successfully gotten many packages from the netherlands but I've wondered what is the chance of a vaccume sealed package of say no more than 7 grams of crystal MDMA is found in a flat everyday small envelope.. and even after its found what are the chances of me getting in legal trouble for ordering it? Keep in mind I always use tor and do my transactions discreetly. Just want some input if you guys have ever been caught or packages seized with drugs.





You need to do some more reading.

First thing the cops do when they bust in your door is take control of your computers and electronic devices.

If you've not taken the appropriate measures then you've incriminated yourself beyond any point now.




NEVER sign for ANY package.


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Re: Ordering crystal MDMA overseas question to all [Re: opsh]
    #26361674 - 12/04/19 07:15 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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lighthouse09 said:
Well i dont do this anymore so maybe things have changed but its very jard to charge u witha package beong sent to you. Once you take it inside your place and open it you have a risk so try not to have to much illegal shit in ir place or what i did u can take said envelope and put ot on your car and leave it for a couple days . the cops wont watch u that long and if u get pulled over you van say u dont know who sent it or anything if its notopened you cant be charged though either way



It's ironic that you claim to have learned this from a cop because it's flat out wrong. The cops don't need a warrant to open mail in your car, and because it's in your car it's in your possession. In addition, it's way easier to search a car than a house, and driving with drugs is always stupid and a bad idea.

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NEVER sign for ANY package.



I had to sign for all the RCs I ever received. Sometimes I even signed and took the package inside of an actual post office. Signing is standard practice and not necessarily any worse than doing any other thing. Most places will ship in such a way that it requires a signature for delivery.

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order stuff with stolen credit cards for example and have it delivered to someone else's mailbox or abandoned house



Each of these things individually is a red flag that could get you caught. Never have it delivered to someone else's mailbox or an abandoned house, that's how a huge number of people get busted.

Any mail sent to a someone who hasn't previously received mail at an address (and especially to someone who doesn't live at an address) is considered suspicious by the post office. In addition, mail without return addresses is considered suspicious, and mail delivered to abandoned houses is very suspicious. In addition, going through someone else's mail and taking their mail is a federal felony. That in and of itself will get you seriously busted. This is one of those classic "don't do that, LE specifically looks for that" kind of things.

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Re: Ordering crystal MDMA overseas question to all [Re: nooneman] * 1
    #26362139 - 12/05/19 01:32 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Anyone can send you anything signed or not, signing for something proves nothing. If you get a parcel and its signed for youll generally sign for it most people dont know how much random crap theyve order and whats signed for. Any random hater could send you a kg of heroin signed for with the words heroin inside, you cant get busted for that just deny it is anything to do with you and someone is setting you up.
Always use your name make it seem as legit as any other mail you get.
I like to leave my shit on the floor behind the door so it looks like ive no interest in it incase of a raid i just say :shrug: i dont know what it is.
A friend of mine ordered a kilo of ketamin from india, in his own name obviously it was seized and he was raided, ge said he knows nothing about it and they found a small 3 plant grow which they seized. He didnt even get a court date. Until the really revise postal drug law its basically the wild west, i do admit to anxiety in waiting especially when late and i am checking for van doors closing around the early raid hours until it comes. I now try to keep all my purchases for personal use, i know bulk is cheaper by far but it is what it is. I spent £700 in 2 months on random shit easily enough to put me away for distribution which was not my intention, i just wanted enough to last for a long time. Ive learnt from my ways its worth spending a little extra and just buy what you need and keep purchase apart by a week or so especially if from the same vendor alot of same none franked mail paid with stamps are a give away. This is the best time of year to get buying imo they have very little time to scrutinise with the volume of parcels coming through. My biggest orders where 7g mdma 3.5 + 3.5 champagne and liquorice style 5 2cb pills 7g mephedrone 1g coke 3g ketamine 3 lsd tabs 20 temazepam 30 diazepam 2g methylone and all under a fake name. After a internet search i found all this stuff i had done was a massive red flag and spent the next 2 days destroying paraphernalia and all my long collected lab equipment none of the drugs turned up. Then all the drugs turned up late all at once in a big bundle felt like a set up so i took it put it in a bag and left at side of house with a note with the pseudonym on it asking not to have his mail sent here again or ill call the police. I left it for 2 weeks no police so got away with it but lived in constant paranoia so all my stash has gone to a friend's house who really doesnt give a fuck at all like i do. Anxiety gone lol never again, single orders days-weeks apart own name and small orders are my rules now.


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Re: Ordering crystal MDMA overseas question to all [Re: lighthouse09]
    #26370499 - 12/09/19 09:12 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

When I lived in Louisiana There was a lot of cops involved in illegal activity. Selling pot was the least of it. They were under the thumb of gangs and shit sometimes.

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Re: Ordering crystal MDMA overseas question to all [Re: Mneeb]
    #26370506 - 12/09/19 09:15 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Don't ever speak to the cops no matter what the pull you over for. I don't care if your driving around with a giant dick blocking your windshield. You want to remain, you do not consent to any search or seizure and you want to speak to a lawyer. That's all you gotta say. They can keep asking questions but you do not have to answer and they have to allow you to find a lawyer. I have a lawyer on retainer and keep his number in a book I carry everywhere to write stuff down.

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Re: Ordering crystal MDMA overseas question to all [Re: nooneman]
    #26372428 - 12/10/19 06:12 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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lighthouse09 said:
Well i dont do this anymore so maybe things have changed but its very jard to charge u witha package beong sent to you. Once you take it inside your place and open it you have a risk so try not to have to much illegal shit in ir place or what i did u can take said envelope and put ot on your car and leave it for a couple days . the cops wont watch u that long and if u get pulled over you van say u dont know who sent it or anything if its notopened you cant be charged though either way



It's ironic that you claim to have learned this from a cop because it's flat out wrong. The cops don't need a warrant to open mail in your car, and because it's in your car it's in your possession. In addition, it's way easier to search a car than a house, and driving with drugs is always stupid and a bad idea.

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karode13 said:
NEVER sign for ANY package.



I had to sign for all the RCs I ever received. Sometimes I even signed and took the package inside of an actual post office. Signing is standard practice and not necessarily any worse than doing any other thing. Most places will ship in such a way that it requires a signature for delivery.

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opsh said:
order stuff with stolen credit cards for example and have it delivered to someone else's mailbox or abandoned house



Each of these things individually is a red flag that could get you caught. Never have it delivered to someone else's mailbox or an abandoned house, that's how a huge number of people get busted.

Any mail sent to a someone who hasn't previously received mail at an address (and especially to someone who doesn't live at an address) is considered suspicious by the post office. In addition, mail without return addresses is considered suspicious, and mail delivered to abandoned houses is very suspicious. In addition, going through someone else's mail and taking their mail is a federal felony. That in and of itself will get you seriously busted. This is one of those classic "don't do that, LE specifically looks for that" kind of things.




The postal inspector needs a warrant for first clase mail.
I dont feel like looking it up but it's on the postal inspectors website.


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Re: Ordering crystal MDMA overseas question to all [Re: MrMoon]
    #26384418 - 12/16/19 02:24 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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The postal inspector needs a warrant for first clase mail.
I dont feel like looking it up but it's on the postal inspectors website.




That only applies before it's delivered.

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Re: Ordering crystal MDMA overseas question to all [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #26384427 - 12/16/19 02:31 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

? Bit pointless them opening it after its delivered


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Re: Ordering crystal MDMA overseas question to all [Re: Mneeb]
    #26403121 - 12/27/19 02:50 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

I'm from europe, in places like nl, germany, uk shipping drugs through post is an art form.

As long as you only order small quantities you should be pretty safe

One of the safest drugs to ship through post is lsd because you can fit thousands of tabs in just one envelope. Envelopes are almost never checked because there's too many of them and you can't fit *resale* ammounts in such small packages .With mdma, cocaine, ketamine and other stuff like that the golden standard is having them crushed and either packaged in an envelope or a small, thin package

Again, the most important thing to stay very safe is to not order big quantities (bigger packages have a higher chance of being randomly checked)

I know of some people who actually sell drugs online for a living and from what they've told me success rates are pretty big, even at about an ounce of crystals.

Overall quality will always be good because in places like nl people who are involved in lab work can get away with few prison years if they do get caught.

Just use a VPN and Tor and you'll be set. There's many free anonymous encrypted email service providers on the deeb web and that's a must if you have to use an email address.

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Re: Ordering crystal MDMA overseas question to all [Re: nooneman]
    #26403133 - 12/27/19 03:04 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

It really isnt. The post office workers dont remember everybody who lives at a address. That's the delivery people I'm talking about. Seen it and done it numerous times. Even fake names. It's not their job to say hey this person doesn't live here. Their job is to deliver mail.

I've had a friend who's brother used the name Johnnyz ballz.  Guess what it got delivered.

Most of them dont care and wanna go home. They are people like you and me.


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