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LSA study. * 1
    #26358759 - 12/03/19 09:28 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I am currently studying the
Effects of lsa by microdosing
Then building my way up bit
By bit.

The most I have had in one
Day and that was twenty
Hbwr seeds.

It was a heavy trip with lots
Of undescriable visions.

It lasted along time and since
That heavy trip I have been
Experimenting with 3 or 5
Seeds.

The effects with the micro dosing
Is very interesting.

It makes you feel good about
Your life and a lot of things
Become more interesting.
And you can focus a lot more.

It definetly helps you think
On your own and escape reality
A bit.

Anyone else had any new or
Interesting effects apart from
Nausea and sickness?

Something which I never get
On them anyway.


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Re: LSA study. [Re: ft116] * 1
    #26359163 - 12/03/19 01:52 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

LSA kicks ass, first trip I dove in balls deep and took 20 seeds my tripping buddy ate 17, we both had a blast with no nausea.


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Re: LSA study. [Re: Shroomhunts]
    #26359179 - 12/03/19 02:02 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Seeds can kick hard, I know from experience.

HBWR should not be treated lightly. Many people get nauseaous with little psychedelic effecs, though they can be equally powerfull and visual as LSD.
The strongest dose I took was fifteen seeds as tea and 8 more swallowed. Man was I tripping so hard. Visuals exactly like 120mics of lsd with a shroomy, organic touch. Everything was waving and morphing, very colorful and dreamy.
The headspace is extremly wide and clear, very unique. Lots of introspection and realisations.

I fainted twice that night with heavy vasoconstriction, and felt very sedated the whole experience. I still had strong OEVs the entire next day, subsiding over the next three days or so.

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Re: LSA study. [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26359215 - 12/03/19 02:20 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I also had an interesting trip from HBWR seeds. Just the nausea was too much and I puked my guts out :shrug: I passed by a girl and she looked straight into my eyes and everything stopped and I saw her entire life from her birth. That moment was magical. I had very few visuals but the headspace is incredible. I danced and cried of pure happiness and joy! This only happened to me on LSA


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Re: LSA study. [Re: ft116]
    #26359427 - 12/03/19 03:40 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Scrape the shells off with your fingernails. Never got nauseous from them. They do taste really bad tho. Can be one of the most intense trips of your life for sure


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Re: LSA study. [Re: Shroomhunts] * 1
    #26360217 - 12/04/19 12:00 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Ate 3 seeds yesterday
And the trip was quite intense.
Not in visuals but in a head
Change way. I felt very high.
I only had 3 seeds.

I think microdosing would
Be 1 seed.


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Re: LSA study. [Re: ft116] * 1
    #26360218 - 12/04/19 12:01 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Here are my seeds.
They are very strong but
I don’t know what strain
They are.



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Re: LSA study. [Re: ft116]
    #26360534 - 12/04/19 07:39 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I think the alkaloid content can vary greatly from seed to seed, I had a friend who ate 5 seeds then vomited and blacked out an hr later


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Re: LSA study. [Re: Shroomhunts] * 1
    #26360536 - 12/04/19 07:41 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

A good hbwr trip can have visuals that rival lsd, however it has a much more powerful body high,on high doses it can be very hard to walk and do normal things. Hbwr is not to be underestimated and I feel it is misunderstood because of improper preperation causing nausea and bad trips.


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Re: LSA study. [Re: Shroomhunts]
    #26360681 - 12/04/19 09:15 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

It can be taken sublingually by upping your dose, at 17 seeds I was merged with the floor for 6 hours. Another time a friend and I took seeds he took 5 and I took 7 with 50mg DPH each and a large dose of yerba mate to counter the sedation and then after not feeling anything when I though I should took 3 more and almost immediately felt that lysergamide tingling in my spine, within 20 minutes to vasoconstriction was extremely painful so we go the idea to dab some stupid amount like a quarter gram each and from there I remember everything going red and changing form and patterns were rising out of surfaces and I went to lay down...next thing I remember it's 6 hours later and I'm coming to in my bed stimulated as all hell and cleaning the entire fucking cottage with my vision still rippling before crashing well into the next day. Friend reported a similar experience without the blackout.


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Re: LSA study. [Re: ft116]
    #26362037 - 12/04/19 11:57 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Ive done a low dose of CWE morning glories. Theres a gentle spiritual/meditative quality to the trip thats really interesting. Microdosing LSA is a good idea in my opinion due to its gentle effects and of course less physical side effects.

I wonder if the Shamans of ancient Mexico used to use low doses of Morning Glories in the same way.....:strokebeard:


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Re: LSA study. [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26363357 - 12/05/19 04:35 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Well I believe that they are
Definetly different from anything
Else in a good way.

I have still got a lot of experimenting
To do.


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Re: LSA study. [Re: ft116]
    #26363873 - 12/05/19 08:48 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Have u tried different exteaction techniques yet?


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Re: LSA study. [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26363944 - 12/05/19 09:44 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Making a tea with fresh peppermint leaves will give you excellent results. Best if you pick them straight from the plant, it greatly increases potency


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Re: LSA study. [Re: Shroomhunts]
    #26364210 - 12/06/19 03:18 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Oh really??

Interesting. I got a great idea....adding to my journal. :thumbup:


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Re: LSA study. [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26365167 - 12/06/19 02:12 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

No.
I have never tried extracting
Them. I don’t think their
Is a 100% way of doing
This yet.


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Re: LSA study. [Re: ft116]
    #26365236 - 12/06/19 02:55 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Cwe extraction is easy but, making a tea is definitely worth the experience


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Re: LSA study. [Re: Shroomhunts]
    #26367793 - 12/07/19 08:08 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Could you extract it
With isopropanol alcohol?

I have been looking at some
Techniques.

Apparently you get black tar
Residue after the alcohol
Has dried.
anyone heard of this.🥺


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Re: LSA study. [Re: ft116]
    #26367796 - 12/07/19 08:09 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

All you need is cold water


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Re: LSA study. [Re: Shroomhunts]
    #26368297 - 12/08/19 04:46 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

What happens with a water
Extract?
Do you get crystals or tar
If you evaporate the water?


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Re: LSA study. [Re: ft116]
    #26368535 - 12/08/19 08:32 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

There is a crystal tek somewhere but usually you just drink the water. It is supposed to help with nausea you have to use cold water because lysergimides are delicate and heat will destroy them


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Re: LSA study. [Re: Shroomhunts]
    #26368657 - 12/08/19 09:34 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Right.
Some more good information.
Thank you.
I might try a iso extract
As soon as I can get hold
Of some.
Will report back.


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Re: LSA study. [Re: ft116]
    #26528503 - 03/11/20 04:54 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

What would be a good microdose for HBW seeds? I also have a big bag of Heavenly Blue MG seeds. Also, I'm sure my microdose would change by the fact that I did a full trip two days ago, so my tolerance would still be quite high for another week or so. But assuming I try microdosing, say tomorrow, 3 days after an actual trip, what would be a good HBW dose?

I'm thinking two seeds would be good to compensate for the temporary tolerance?

Oh, and I wouldn't bother extracting for this. For my trip the other day, I simple rolled 6 HBW seeds in my fingers to get the coating off, then washed them off. After drying I ground the 6 seeds up and ate the powder, washing it down with water. I did also perform a cold water extraction on about 10 grams of the MG seeds, and sipped on about 50% of it over the next two hours. So my total LSA was from 6 full HBW eaten and about 160 MG extracted into water.


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Re: LSA study. [Re: LSA Woodrose] * 1
    #26528514 - 03/11/20 05:09 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I have learnt a lot about
Mg seeds now.
I extract them with alcohol.
And 10gram of seeds gives
You 0.3gram of extract
Which is all you need.
I use iso to extract them.
Hbwr seeds are different.
Not as enjoyable.
But very insightful.🍸


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    #26528515 - 03/11/20 05:10 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Ergot is starting to interest
Me now.
And the other chemicals in
Morning glory seeds.


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Re: LSA study. [Re: ft116] * 1
    #26528519 - 03/11/20 05:18 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah HBWR doesnt have the same effect like MG seeds. I prefer MG as well. How long do u soak your seeds in Iso for? I recently did an ethanol-Rum extract and it was much stronger than expected. Soak time was 4 days, stirring occassionally everyday.


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Re: LSA study. [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26528536 - 03/11/20 05:48 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

A lot of people talk about differences between the effects of HBW vs MG, and while I'm sure you're right, I haven't found much difference at all. Probably because I'm not a connoisseur of either one. They feel pretty much exactly the same to me. So much so, I use them interchangeably, and have started mixing them on trips. Like the other day, I munched down 6 ground up HBW and an hour later started sipping on some cold-water extracted MG seeds. Like I said, blindfold me while I take the extract or powder and when it started kicking in, I wouldn't have the slightest idea which LSA source you gave me.

I will say that eating actual MG seeds is a non starter. Waaaay too much ground powder to chow down on.

Oh and as far as extractions, I don't even bother with the complex ones. I see no benefit other than trying to avoid nausea. Which, even when I take the HBW seeds ground up, I don't get nausea anymore. At least not with 6 seeds. I'm 100% sure its because I ALWAYS, always, always trip in a fasting state of a minimum of 12 hours after my last meal. I'm sure I can tolerate more than 6 seeds. The only reason I do water extraction these days is for MG so as not to eat so much seed bulk. Occasionally, when I want a higher dose of HBW I do water extractions.

Sorry about the length of the post, but while its fun for me to geek out and do a non-polar/polar extraction (last one I did with Naptha and then 99% alcohol) I just don't see the point. These seeds are dirt cheap, especially when bought in bulk. And the only reason I would do a NP/P extraction at this point would be to conserve seeds if, say they were scarce. Because obviously you get more LSA per seed when you do a NP/P extract, versus just cold water. But I just factor this in and use a lot more seeds with water than I would with NP/P. I bought a huge 1 Pound bag of Heavenly Blue off Amazon about a month ago, and have 1/2 ounce of HBW seeds. If my stomach got upset from eating seeds in a fasting state, or if cold water extraction didn't get rid of nauesa, then I would just do a polar extraction with 99% IPA because its faster.

LMAO the Non-Polar/Polar extraction took about a week! That's why I like the cold water extraction. Takes less than three hours and I'm ready to go, and no nausea at all, as I said.


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Re: LSA study. [Re: LSA Woodrose]
    #26528543 - 03/11/20 06:04 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Well I think you are wrong
On some aspects.
Firstly extracting the seeds
Gives you a much smaller
Amount to work on and it
Is very rewarding. You
Only need a small amount of
Extract and it’s simple to take.
And I believe that there is
Definetly a difference in effects.

I usually let my morning glory
Seeds sit in iso overnight.

I am growing some at the moment
Too.


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    #26528558 - 03/11/20 06:16 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

ft116 said:
Well I think you are wrong
On some aspects.





I don't necessarily think this is a right or wrong discussion. In the first place, as I said, if nausea was an issue with me anymore, I would absolutely want to do an extraction. Moreover, if I couldn't get rid of nausea by doing a simple water extraction, then I would definitely do a NP/Polar extraction with Naptha and 99% alcohol. Or maybe, as you suggested, just the alcohol. But I did an extraction with Naptha and then 99% IPA, and not only did it take a week or more, but I saw absolutely no benefit to the final product when compared to eating straight seeds or even doing a cold water extraction. Bear in mind, when I do a cold water extraction, I factor in the fact that I lose a lot of the LSA by this easy method, so I always use about 40% more seeds than I would with, Naptha and 99% IPA.

Also, there is one more point to consider, and I think there is some valid chemistry to back me up. But this is somewhat hypothesis and supposition. Many people believe that by removing the toxins, which are precursors to cyanide, you lose some of the potency of LSA. What some sources I have read on the web are saying, if I understand them correctly, is that the toxins themselves somehow contribute something to the experience, and not just nausea. I think that if these folks are right, and they may not be, that all the chemicals contained in the seeds have synergistic effects with the LSA somehow. If this is true, then since the cold water doesn't get rid of all the toxins, it makes me wonder if it yields a better trip when you use more seeds than for a NP/P extraction. Think about it. If you extract with cold water, and this accidentally brings more of the other compounds along for the ride, it may be better somehow? Again, this is all assuming that a person isn't getting nausea from it.


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    #26528577 - 03/11/20 06:37 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Ok man.
Everybody has there own way.


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    #26528637 - 03/11/20 07:24 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

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Ok man.
Everybody has there own way.




I totally agree. I was just explaining my way not trying to say anybody else to do it that way.


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    #26529311 - 03/11/20 03:02 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

So, going back to my original question, what’s a good microdose for Hawaiian baby wood seeds 3 days after a full trip as I described above?


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    #26530342 - 03/12/20 06:25 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I would say 1-3 seeds.


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    #26530669 - 03/12/20 10:23 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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I would say 1-3 seeds.




Yeah that's exactly what I was thinking. I tripped medium hard on Tuesday, so I am going to take 3 HBW seeds now. I just ground them up a few minutes ago.


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    #26530697 - 03/12/20 10:32 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Have a good time.
The seeds will show you the
Way. Believe in them.
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    #26530703 - 03/12/20 10:33 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I have just had 0.3gram
Of morning glory extract.


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