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Kratom Beer
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Searching around for info on brewing kratom infused beer. Found very little. I like to brew mead, cider, malomels, cysers, and super dark beer. I'm currently tossing the thought around my brain to brew a kratom infused beer, cider, or mead. Anyone come across any info on this? Think it's worth it?
Thanks for any replies.
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I would do a kratom mead and leave it a bit sweet. Will prolly work fine.
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Seems a little tricky to do with plain ol' leaf material, due to its insolubility in water. Letting the leaf matter steep in secondary I don't think would do the trick, as despite the alkaloid's solubility in alcohol, beer is pretty light on ABV, so I don't think you'd be getting a very timely nor efficient extraction regardless of how long you let it steep.
If you were able to procure a resin extract, throwing that in your boil would be the quickest way to add the active alkaloids to a brew. According to this article on kratom resin, it seems you could skip the final reduction/evaporation process and just boil the leaf material for "several hours to break down the membranes in the leaves and extract as much of the alkaloid content as possible" - then proceed with your brew as one normally might. Of course, you'll need several extra gallons of water to begin with, since you'll burn off roughly 1-2 gallons per hour, depending on the strength of your flame and how efficiently it heats your holding vessel.
Let us know if you try it, what your method is and how it turns out!
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Quote:
geokills said: Seems a little tricky to do with plain ol' leaf material, due to its insolubility in water. Letting the leaf matter steep in secondary I don't think would do the trick, as despite the alkaloid's solubility in alcohol, beer is pretty light on ABV, so I don't think you'd be getting a very timely nor efficient extraction regardless of how long you let it steep.
If you were able to procure a resin extract, throwing that in your boil would be the quickest way to add the active alkaloids to a brew. According to this article on kratom resin, it seems you could skip the final reduction/evaporation process and just boil the leaf material for "several hours to break down the membranes in the leaves and extract as much of the alkaloid content as possible" - then proceed with your brew as one normally might. Of course, you'll need several extra gallons of water to begin with, since you'll burn off roughly 1-2 gallons per hour, depending on the strength of your flame and how efficiently it heats your holding vessel.
Let us know if you try it, what your method is and how it turns out!
Could possibly make a water soluble mitragynine acitate by adding a few tbsp of vinegar to a brew of tea and as long as the ph doesnt effect the ferment too drastically it could work. Adding a water soluble extract to f2 is probably the best option tho.
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Indulgence said:
Could possibly make a water soluble mitragynine acitate by adding a few tbsp of vinegar to a brew of tea and as long as the ph doesnt effect the ferment too drastically it could work. Adding a water soluble extract to f2 is probably the best option tho.
I second that! I made some resin the other day but it seemed to sit on top of the water I'd be worried it would just float on top of your beer but maybe if you poured it with a thick head it would become part of the foamy top? either way if you get it to work out well share a recipe I'd love to try some
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