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Offline330ci
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Re: How mush is too mush? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26358663 - 12/03/19 08:12 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

great idea... off to the beach!


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Re: How mush is too mush? [Re: 330ci]
    #26358962 - 12/03/19 11:53 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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OfflineCosmicsunshine
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Re: How mush is too mush? [Re: Cujllickduo]
    #26358984 - 12/03/19 12:09 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Tripping every weekend.......I used to do that when I was first introduced to shrooms. Now I try to make it more religious, as in valuable for inflection and personal change. It’s fun to trip to trip and maybe I’m the crazy one for wanting it to be more “Maria Sabina” about it, like a holy sacrament connecting us to the ancient past, eating stardust and watching stars form, as well as changing ourselves to make a better future.

Or it’s just a drug that mankind got lucky enough to find, I dunno


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Re: How mush is too mush? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26359253 - 12/03/19 02:34 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Vibe_Enthusiast said:
Not in a sense. But like @Aldebaran said in a different thread.. it's not thinking you were God that makes you crazy, believing you are God to a full maximum day in and day out after the trip is when things start to become on the "crazy" part haha.

I guess it's all on how you handle things and can justify your experiences. These are mindblowing experiences though.. those breakthrough doses. Not saying it happens on a regular basis.. but I'm sure there's peoples out there preaching they're God because they had a huge experience.




Guess I should say that after you trip often enough with high doses you start to recognize the overarching pattern where the delusions arise and are taken for reality - different delusions, but always the same feeling of reality.  This is something mushrooms do really well.  So eventually (hundreds of trips) you realize although THIS weird thing seems totally real, it seems JUST as totally real as that OTHER weird thing that happened the last time - and really, it's better to enjoy such a suspension of the ordinary, not fear it. Or something like that. 

It's hard to explain well. As an example, there have been times when I've been thinking thoughts that literally, after a while, crashed my brain entirely.  Cold stop, reboot, and WTF!?  with no distinct memory of what exactly it was I did that made it happen.  And when this happens, if you were worried about it it could be terrifying.  But if you just took as another interesting effect you'd be fine with that, because...well...weird shit happens.  And that's a constant with tripping.  :awesomenod:


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Re: How mush is too mush? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26359630 - 12/03/19 05:21 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I feel like there are a lot of trips where I am recreationally having fun. Then there are some trips that end up being a “religious” experience. I think the whole mushroom experience really shows you the spectrum of experiences,  like acting like a 5 year old or becoming a genius.

My last experience I was out in the Mojave desert in a clear night. Introducing my brother in law to shrooms for his first time. We took 5g PE in a lemon tek tea split between the two of us.
After about 30 min I had liftoff. 1hr full visuals. It was a clear night and the stars and constellations we’re all connected in a huge morphing geometric pattern. Kinda like a sacred geometry piece. My vision was painted with a digital rainbow paintbrush. The palms trees has morphed into dancing coconut tree beings that were smiling and dancing with the music. Which was swelling and enveloping me in a 3D sound wave. It was wild. It was fucking awesome.

My Brother in law however was like “idk if it’s working” as he laughed at the purple mist and tracers he described. Although he was definitely affected, he was most obviously not as shroomed out as I was.
He laughed his ass off and had mild visuals but that was it. He said he had a good time and would do it again tho. I’m glad it wasn’t too strong for him.

I am usually tripping at home. Natural settings are my favorite. You guys sound like you have some nice trip spots 👌


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Re: How mush is too mush? [Re: SocalJosh]
    #26360756 - 12/04/19 09:58 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

To go back to the original question, I think the reply by Antigov on the first page raises some good points.

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Antigov wrote: At first I was off the chain. I was tripping every Saturday night. It didn’t take long for the tripping to start interfering with my personal life. The wife wasn’t happy about staying up and then sleeping all day Sunday. On top of that, I developed a tolerance and the trips weren’t as good as they used to be. I cut back to every other weekend and now once a months. The trips are a lot better once a month and the wife is happy too.




If you've just completed your first successful grow, I think it would be normal to be very keen and want to trip frequently.

Reasons for tripping less often might be:

-It starts to interfere with work / study / family commitments

-Tripping becomes the only thing you are interested in and you stop doing other things

-The quality of the trips starts to drop and they feel less magical and less exciting than they used to

It's really the same for any interest; you want some kind of balance with the rest of your life. If weekly tripping suits you and you are  enjoying it, then fine.

:feelsshroomyman:

It also depends on the kind of dosage you are taking. If you have a really heavy trip which 'blows your mind' it might take some time to process what happened, or you may start to feel more reluctant about dosing if you know the trip you are planning is going to be very intense. Tripping might become more of an occasional thing, a ritual, something you have to prepare for.

As for the craziness of shrooms, I think the craziness is all part of the experience at higher doses - if it gets too much just scale back the dosage.

For anyone concerned about potential mental health risks of tripping, I don't think there is much to worry about with shrooms. Heavy, frequent dosing over long periods may take a toll on some people (probably more of an issue with LSD or less well known substances) but there is an element of common sense to this.

There will always be a subset of the population that have mental health issues unrelated to psychedelics, and others may have latent conditions that can be triggered by stress / trauma / psychedelics or whatever, but I don't think there is any evidence that shrooms can just suddenly "make you crazy" (excluding the usual craziness of a trip itself) out of nowhere. Bear in mind that scientific studies have strict controls on health risks, and they seem happy to give psilocybin to healthy volunteers who have been pre-screened for mental health issues.

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PrimalSoup wrote: Guess I should say that after you trip often enough with high doses you start to recognize the overarching pattern where the delusions arise and are taken for reality - different delusions, but always the same feeling of reality.  This is something mushrooms do really well.  So eventually (hundreds of trips) you realize although THIS weird thing seems totally real, it seems JUST as totally real as that OTHER weird thing that happened the last time - and really, it's better to enjoy such a suspension of the ordinary, not fear it. Or something like that.




On the topic of delusions and general crazy thinking on higher doses, I agree the important thing is not to be frightened by this - it makes a difficult trip worse if you start thinking "Oh no, I'm going insane, I will never be the same again!" and I think this is a common reason why people report 'bad trips', especially if they are not used to tripping, or have not taken a high dose before.

The term "delusions" sounds a bit clinical but really it's the same thing as "magical thinking". It would be a shame if mushroom trips were coldly rational - you are taking "magic mushrooms" after all so I agree with Primal that it's better to enjoy this "suspension of the ordinary" and allow yourself to experience something which feels awe-inspiring, supernatural, spiritual or magical.

:chesire:


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