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Super Oat Jars - Hybrid TEK πŸ’›πŸ’šπŸ’™ * 2
    #26358312 - 12/03/19 03:14 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

TEK Revision Dec 19 2019

SUPER OAT JARS - HYBRID TEK
(soak in jar/rinse/load wet/PC)


πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯
πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ the hydration power of a soak tek πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯
πŸ’₯ coupled with the precision of a no prep tek πŸ’₯
πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯



BOD's Easy AF Oat Prep is the baseline for moisture content for any oat Tek due to the nature and power of boil/soak prep methods. Long story short his Tek produces oats with 75g of water uptake per 100g of oats and then the grains start to burst when more water is added.

At the opposite end of the Tek spectrum are "no prep" Teks. They are "mix ingredients and PC" Teks. They work great but don't get as much water uptake so they tend to be on the dryer end of the spectrum for grain Teks. My Precise Moisture Oat Jar Tek gives you right about 40g of water per 100g of oats.

The Hybrid Tek introduced here produces 100g of grain with 60-65g of water with only a 12 hour hot tap water soak and a quick rinse. No drying of grains. Just soak, rinse, load soaking wet and PC. All the water for this comes from the 12 hour soak. You can add a little more but no more than 1/4in of water in the bottom of the jar when it hits the PC or you will start to get sticky and burst grains.


πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯
πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯
πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯


THERE ARE 2 DIFFERENT RECIPES

πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ 2/3 PER QUART JAR πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯
200g OF OATS

πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ 3 CUPS SPAWN PER QUART πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯
250G OF OATS



πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯
πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯
πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯ πŸ’₯





STEP 1
(Add gypsum here if you are going to)
Load 200g of dry oats into a quart jar and soak with hot tap water for 12 hours

STEP 2
Apply strainer to top of jar and flip over and drain (gypsum) water out really good. Add warm water and place palm over the mouth of the jar and shake good to rinse grains. Place strainer over mouth of jar and dump rinse water out. Shake most water out but you want no more than 1/4in of water at the bottom of the jar when they hit the PC. More water than 1/4in will burst grains or get really close to it.


πŸ’₯πŸ’₯πŸ’₯πŸ’₯πŸ’₯
πŸ’₯πŸ’₯πŸ’₯πŸ’₯πŸ’₯
πŸ’₯πŸ’₯πŸ’₯πŸ’₯πŸ’₯


CRAZY SIMPLE RIGHT ?

65g of water per 100g of oats with no heat





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Re: Quick Oat Prep -> No Soak by Weight [Re: YogiBear]
    #26358330 - 12/03/19 03:36 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Nice!

Seems like more and more people are avoiding the pre cooking and saving a ton of time!


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Re: Quick Oat Prep -> No Soak by Weight [Re: san pedro guy]
    #26360088 - 12/03/19 10:01 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I'll be looking back to this when I need it, in a couple weeks. Thanks!


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Re: Quick Oat Grain Jars (No Soak or Simmer) [Re: YogiBear]
    #26360380 - 12/04/19 03:55 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

very nice write up. I think oat is extremely untreated, it's cheap and very easy to prep.

I hope this gonna be the fist of many good threats of yours


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Re: Quick Oat Grain Jars (No Soak or Simmer) [Re: mr. whothehell]
    #26360467 - 12/04/19 06:18 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I see the dryer grain an advantage if you are using Lcs or liquid inoculant.


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Re: Quick Oat Grain Jars (No Soak or Simmer) [Re: mr. whothehell] * 1
    #26360469 - 12/04/19 06:22 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I'm not completely hating yet. If this works for you then have at. But I forsee a few issues.

1. I worry that the oats will not be properly sterilized because they are still dry for most of the process. (I'm assuming that's why you added extra 30 minutes to PC cycle?)

2. Cooling your jars outside the PC will potentially draw contaminated air inside your jars

3. Shaking your jars every hour for 5 hours after a PC cycle seems to me like a lot more than letting some grain soak overnight... a grain prep with a soak and simmer may be an overall longer process but the actual amount of time you spend focusing on the work is a lot shorter.

Soaking grains overnight takes virtually no time and effort at all.
Letting your PC cool overnight = no time and effort.
So the amount of actual time and effort you put into a traditional grain prep is max 3 hours compared to your 7+ hour process



Anyway.. enough shitting :lol:
Let's see some of your results. Do you have pics of jars at full colonization?


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Re: Quick Oat Grain Jars (No Soak or Simmer) [Re: ComebackKid]
    #26360491 - 12/04/19 06:52 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I only shake once, right after the pressure pin drops.

prep time is closer to a little over 2 hours.

Dust off the grains, put in jars, add water: 5 minutes
PC time (including bringing up to temp and 10 minute vent): 105 minutes
Pressure drop and shake 10-15 minutes?

Even tho there is a small top layer of grains that is not fully hydrated they still sterilize fine.

I love this method because it saves me a ton of time.

I am small scale tho so prob not the best for mass production...


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Precise Moisture Grain Tek (OATS) β€οΈπŸ’›πŸ’šπŸ’™ [Re: ComebackKid]
    #26360704 - 12/04/19 09:30 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

ComebackKid said:
I'm not completely hating yet. If this works for you then have at. But I forsee a few issues.

1. I worry that the oats will not be properly sterilized because they are still dry for most of the process. (I'm assuming that's why you added extra 30 minutes to PC cycle?)

2. Cooling your jars outside the PC will potentially draw contaminated air inside your jars

3. Shaking your jars every hour for 5 hours after a PC cycle seems to me like a lot more than letting some grain soak overnight... a grain prep with a soak and simmer may be an overall longer process but the actual amount of time you spend focusing on the work is a lot shorter.

Soaking grains overnight takes virtually no time and effort at all.
Letting your PC cool overnight = no time and effort.
So the amount of actual time and effort you put into a traditional grain prep is max 3 hours compared to your 7+ hour process ?




Hey CBK

I am using Fahtsters Quick step rye prep technique for here and he swore by it for rye. Tried rye with it and got mush berries but works great with oats.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7718009#7718009

This Tek is an attempt to get precise numbers and for hydration of PP oats not to create the fastest bulk suppling method like Bods Tek.

Ive always wondered about cooling outside the PC. Doing BODs oat prep I pulled them out after 1 hour and got many shroomies from MS syringe for a test so Im on the right track.

I have an agar plate in the mail to me in a few days so I will have a clean spawn test too.

I am working on a batch right now to see just how much water PP oats will hold by percentages by weight of grain:water ratio
250g rye each jar
Jar 1: 100g water
Jar 2: 125g water
Jar 3: 150g water
Etc

Will post results and probably edit the OP like 13 times before its done.

I POSTED THIS TEK A COUPLE DAYS PREMATURELY BECAUSE I SEEN A NOOBS POST WITH A SILLY RECIPE AND THOUGHT I JUST JUMP IN HEAD FIRST. LOL

Keep me out of the gallows please!!!

The more tips from trusted cultivators are always welcomed to refine the process. No big ego junkie here so please send input folks.

Once I get the max water capacity of PP oats i will be adjust the Tek recipies accordingly like one 70,80,90% capacities.


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Re: Quick Oat Grain Jars (No Soak or Simmer) [Re: YogiBear]
    #26360725 - 12/04/19 09:44 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I like it!

I got a few questions tho if you don’t mind...

What is PP?

Also what does the % of hydration affect? Colonize times?

I thought myc didn’t need much water to grow, I usually add almost a cup of water to each jar and thought that would be enough?

Thanks dude, nice write up, excited to see it evolve!


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Precise Moisture Grain Tek (OATS) β€οΈπŸ’›πŸ’šπŸ’™ [Re: ComebackKid]
    #26360732 - 12/04/19 09:48 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

CBK

I did test with super hot tap water and soak times and weights measurements and 2 minute soak give right at 75g of water ito the grains and 325g of dry oats and a 10 minute soak and they took up like 90g of water

325g oats with 2 minutes soak = 75g of water up take
325g oats with 10 minute soak = 90g of water up take

I originally had a 10 minute soak but seeing that 8 minutes got me an extra 15g of water I opted for the shorter soak.

If you and other trusted cultivator think there should be a minimum soak of like 15 min of hot tap water then I can work that into the tek πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘

I just want to the tek format like

Weigh grain
Soak in jar
Rinse
Adjust water amount
PC


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Precise Moisture Grain Tek (OATS) β€οΈπŸ’›πŸ’šπŸ’™ [Re: san pedro guy]
    #26360743 - 12/04/19 09:52 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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san pedro guy said:
I like it!

I got a few questions tho if you don’t mind...

What is PP?

Also what does the % of hydration affect? Colonize times?

I thought myc didn’t need much water to grow, I usually add almost a cup of water to each jar and thought that would be enough?

Thanks dude, nice write up, excited to see it evolve!




PP = Producers Pride Whole Oats from Tractor Supply Company ($15 50lbs)

I am working on a batch of grain right now to see just how much water these grains will hold. Once I find the max water retention I will post recipies with different percentags so people can experiment.

I will have my numbers later tonight and make a post with results πŸ˜ŽπŸ‘


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Re: Quick Oat Grain Jars (No Soak or Simmer) [Re: YogiBear]
    #26360884 - 12/04/19 11:17 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Hey at the end of the day you cant argue results!! If it's working for you then it's working. Just had a few concerns that's all:thumbup:

How long did it take you to find the perfect amount of water?


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Re: Quick Oat Grain Jars (No Soak or Simmer) [Re: ComebackKid]
    #26361001 - 12/04/19 12:29 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

For me, my pc only fits 2 quart jars. So I did 2 variances each cycle.
After 3 cycles (6 variances) I had it down.

I recorded it in my journal but stopped once I figured it out. Was going to write a tek but like 3 people already beat me to it :rofl:


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Re: Quick Oat Grain Jars (No Soak or Simmer) [Re: san pedro guy]
    #26361068 - 12/04/19 01:13 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I've heard from more than a couple people that these producer's pride oats don't work they always contaminate. If they work with a no soak tek it only goes to show there's some operator error along the line


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Re: Quick Oat Grain Jars (No Soak or Simmer) [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26361169 - 12/04/19 02:15 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I've been Producer's Pride since July with an Instant Pot and have had only 2 contams that were most likely my fault since it was always only 1 jar out of 4 (in quarts) and 1 out of 8 (with 1/2 pints). I've made over 100 spawn jars in my Instant pot and had 3 contams (including the two oats, other was rye berries), but again had to be me. I used PP after reading your tek.

I grabbed a Presto during that nice ass sale Amazon just had. Got the induction one so I could choose standard or induction burners if needed.

I don't soak or rinse. Just boil for 30min so that the inside is still a little dry, drain for 10 min, then PC. The PCing finishes up the middle of the grain - I don't cover with foil either any more.

Might try this tek out at least once just to cut out 40 minutes.


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Precise Moisture Grain Tek (OATS) β€οΈπŸ’›πŸ’šπŸ’™ [Re: ComebackKid]
    #26361201 - 12/04/19 02:34 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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Hey at the end of the day you cant argue results!! If it's working for you then it's working. Just had a few concerns that's all:thumbup:

How long did it take you to find the perfect amount of water?




About 3 runs in the PC at different ratios. So like 21 tests to find what I was looking for (7 quart jar test at a time)

My findings using this Tek is that 40% of oats to water ratio is a safe max hydration ratio to use and just drop water from there to get desired moisture levels.

See chart below.

I would say intuition guided me to 300g oats to 100g water as my high end and it looks like 260g of oats to 120g is about max so im going to say 275g oats to 110g water is the max you can get these oats to hold without getting burst grains in the bottom of the jars after the PC cycle.

This chart will be added to the Tek shortly so people can fine tune what works for them based on amount of grain desired and moisture levels needed whether its being used for g2g or a2g or lc2g.


2/3 FULL - PER QUART JAR
80% 275g oats : 101g water
75% 275g : 93g
* * * 70% 275g : 86g * * *
65% 275g : 80g
60% 275g : 74g
55% 275g : 68g

3 CUPS - PER QUART JAR
80% 320g : 115g
75% 320g : 108g
* * * 70% 320g : 100g * * *
65% 320g : 93g
60% 320g : 87g
55% 320g : 79g
50% 320g : 72g

300 GRAMS OF GRAIN - PER QUART JAR
80% 300g : 108g
75% 300g : 101g
* * * 70% 300g : 94g * * *
60% 300g : 81g
55% 300g : 74g
50% 300g : 67g


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Precise Moisture Grain Tek (OATS) β€οΈπŸ’›πŸ’šπŸ’™ [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #26361301 - 12/04/19 03:32 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I've heard from more than a couple people that these producer's pride oats don't work they always contaminate. If they work with a no soak tek it only goes to show there's some operator error along the line




Hhhmmmm always room for operator error I guess.

What oats have you heard of giving the best success over PP?


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Re: Quick Oat Grain Jars (No Soak or Simmer) [Re: YogiBear]
    #26361306 - 12/04/19 03:34 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Any but I've seen a lot of complaints about PP oats


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Re: Quick Oat Grain Jars (No Soak or Simmer) [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26361328 - 12/04/19 03:48 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Any but I've seen a lot of complaints about PP oats




Probably because its a common brand name and some people just have problem with oats in general :lol:


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Re: Quick Oat Grain Jars (No Soak or Simmer) [Re: ComebackKid] * 1
    #26361410 - 12/04/19 04:39 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I’ve tried several brands. I kind of feel you really can’t go wrong with oats. They can take a beating. I prefer wbs as colonization speeds are lightning, but oat prep is too easy. And I don’t get wbs between my toes.


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Precise Moisture Grain Tek (OATS) β€οΈπŸ’›πŸ’šπŸ’™ [Re: eatyualive]
    #26363169 - 12/05/19 02:58 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

TEK COMPLETED AND UPDATED
REREAD IN ORDER
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I think oats are the bomb. :mushroom2:

All I do is rinse 6 times, add desired water and PC

Updated the Tek with new weight tables and extra rinses at Step 2

Step 2: Do as many warm tap water rinses that you can do in 2 minutes.
(I can do 5-7 rinses easy)

Knocking up 7 new jars tomorrow:
3 cup at 75% (325g:108g)

Will post results in a couple of weeks... of myc growth πŸ˜ŽπŸ‘πŸ„


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Precise Moisture Grain Tek (OATS) β€οΈπŸ’›πŸ’šπŸ’™ [Re: YogiBear]
    #26365991 - 12/06/19 10:28 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: πŸ’₯πŸ’₯ Precise Moisture Grain Tek (OATS) [Re: YogiBear]
    #26366016 - 12/06/19 10:45 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

those look nice!  I like oats, I have encountered some bad bags tho... it was "farmers friend" brand.  using rye now tho


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Re: πŸ’₯πŸ’₯ Precise Moisture Grain Tek (OATS) [Re: TedsDead]
    #26366022 - 12/06/19 10:55 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

i'm not totally understanding the hydration % calculation you're using here - 86g water to 275g oats, and adding the 65 g from the soak time gets us 151g h2o:275 g oats, or ~55%? not 70%. am I missing something? my oats have been around 90% h2o by weight when they've finished drying.


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Precise Moisture Grain Tek (OATS) β€οΈπŸ’›πŸ’šπŸ’™ [Re: trubblesome]
    #26366172 - 12/07/19 01:59 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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i'm not totally understanding the hydration % calculation you're using here - 86g water to 275g oats, and adding the 65 g from the soak time gets us 151g h2o:275 g oats, or ~55%? not 70%. am I missing something? my oats have been around 90% h2o by weight when they've finished drying.




If you get 65g of water from the soak then when you see the 65g on the scale you take a bottle of drinking water and keep adding water until you reach the water weight you are looking for.

In your example you would add 21g more water to the grain in addition to the 65g that it soaked up from the 2 minutes of rinsing. 86g total.

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Sounds like you are comparing a soak and simmer result to this method for hydration. You will get more water on the front end of the process if you soak and simmer. With this no soak/no simmer method the oats get 2/3 of the water it needs in 2 minutes and it absorbs the other 1/3 during the PC cycle and cooling process. Funny to watch the grains dry as they cool until they are hydrated and perfect when ready to inoculate.

Soak and simmer methods are based on intuition largely. May I ask how you determine that your grain is at 90% hydration? Whats your base line for moisture content ie grams of water per gram of grain that you are using?

Heres what I know from testing oats "with this method".  After testing 20 quarts of grain:water ratio combos i determinded 260g of oats will hold 125g of water and provide only a few burst grains and it was ever so slightly sticky. Like 2% sticky. From this result Im suggesting 275g of oats to 110g of water to be the safe max hydration without sticking. See how I went up 15g on the grain and down 5g on water dry things up a bit so the max water level doesnt give sticky grains.

Long story short 45g of water per 100g of grain is the max level of water that this Tek will allow for.
All my water percentages are based on this information.

Just remember that soak and simmer with give more water in the grains on the front end but you have to go on intuition with soak and simmer and have no hard numbers to work with for experimenting.

Here you have a method of introducing EXACTLY how much water you want in the grains per gram of grains so you can fine tune your work.

Most scientific method of testing grain moisture content if you ask me. Now you can do multiple moisture contents in each batch of PCed grain to determine what % of water each different type of mycelium likes the most.

Experiment away!!!


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    #26366203 - 12/07/19 02:44 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

If you are ever unsure what percentage of moisture and grain amount i would highly suggest the:

300g of oats to 100g of water

It gives you just under 3 cups of spawn at about 75% moisture which is pretty juicy for this tek.


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    #26366476 - 12/07/19 08:45 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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i'm not totally understanding the hydration % calculation you're using here - 86g water to 275g oats, and adding the 65 g from the soak time gets us 151g h2o:275 g oats, or ~55%? not 70%. am I missing something? my oats have been around 90% h2o by weight when they've finished drying.




If you get 65g of water from the soak then when you see the 65g on the scale you take a bottle of drinking water and keep adding water until you reach the water weight you are looking for.

In your example you would add 21g more water to the grain in addition to the 65g that it soaked up from the 2 minutes of rinsing. 86g total.






okay but 86 g h20:275g oats is 31% H2O not 70%...

in your example above that's 33.33% hydration, are you calculating by finding (g oats/total g)*100 or something?


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    #26366494 - 12/07/19 08:54 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I may try this out for funsies.


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    #26366608 - 12/07/19 09:59 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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i'm not totally understanding the hydration % calculation you're using here - 86g water to 275g oats, and adding the 65 g from the soak time gets us 151g h2o:275 g oats, or ~55%? not 70%. am I missing something? my oats have been around 90% h2o by weight when they've finished drying.




If you get 65g of water from the soak then when you see the 65g on the scale you take a bottle of drinking water and keep adding water until you reach the water weight you are looking for.

In your example you would add 21g more water to the grain in addition to the 65g that it soaked up from the 2 minutes of rinsing. 86g total.






okay but 86 g h20:275g oats is 31% H2O not 70%...

in your example above that's 33.33% hydration, are you calculating by finding (g oats/total g)*100 or something?




Please reread my post to you bud. The answer is there

Long story short the most water this tek allows for is 45g of water per 100g of oats before things get sticky in the jars. Thats 45g of water is my base line which is the 100% figure that I derive my percentages from. Not weight of water % to weight of oats πŸ‘

Just try the TEK example that is laid out and you will have nice clean hydrated oats to experiment with πŸ„

Try different percentages in one batch to find what you like for different mycelium. There is years worth if testing that can be done with this Tek to fine tune your mycology game.


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    #26366615 - 12/07/19 10:01 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I may try this out for funsies.




I think every oats person should try 80%, 70%, and 60% moisture once just to see what the grains actually look like knowing how much water is in there πŸ‘


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    #26366714 - 12/07/19 11:00 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

This might be asking too much. But could you breaks down a Quick total weight of grain and total water volume per 10 quarts. Then Th e recipe could be for a total pc batch.
Thanks! :rockon:

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    #26366735 - 12/07/19 11:19 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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This might be asking too much. But could you breaks down a Quick total weight of grain and total water volume per 10 quarts. Then Th e recipe could be for a total pc batch.
Thanks! :rockon:

Or it might already be present but I couldn’t read the bright text on the background I have on.



Thanks for the heads up on the skin colors. I have so busy with other stuff i didnt know there was idfferent schemes! LOL

I removed all my color options and it should automatically select a good color to read againstπŸ‘

Working on your quart total eats


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    #26366736 - 12/07/19 11:20 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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    #26366750 - 12/07/19 11:31 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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This might be asking too much. But could you breaks down a Quick total weight of grain and total water volume per 10 quarts. Then Th e recipe could be for a total pc batch.
Thanks! :rockon:

Or it might already be present but I couldn’t read the bright text on the background I have on.




I see what you are asking now., i think

If you used these water ratio with a soak and simmer method youd have burst crispy oats unless you are saying that youd just put water and oats in the pc???

Youd have to do some testing on that and let us know what you cone up with.

What I like


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    #26368305 - 12/08/19 04:53 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Refined the process down to 4 steps

30 minutes for 7 jars
45 minutes for 10 jars

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26358312#26358312



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    #26368572 - 12/08/19 08:46 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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i'm not totally understanding the hydration % calculation you're using here - 86g water to 275g oats, and adding the 65 g from the soak time gets us 151g h2o:275 g oats, or ~55%? not 70%. am I missing something? my oats have been around 90% h2o by weight when they've finished drying.



this is still not the actual moisture content, as it's ignoring the natural moisture in the grains.

It makes sense to talk in those terms as it is practical for recipes, as long as people know what is being said.

A typical recipe would be to add 100g water to 100g grain. If the grain is 10% natural moisture then you end up with 110g water and 90g bone dry grain. So it is now at 45% moisture up from it's original 10%

I did some calculations here about commonly used recipes https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4371401

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Long story short 45g of water per 100g of grain is the max level of water that this Tek will allow for.



this is not mentioned in the first post and I had absolutely no idea where the moisture content was coming from. Especially as it was described as "moisture %" rather than added water.

If the oats are naturally 12% moisture then 45g water added to 100g results in a moisture content of 39.3%. This is much lower than most recipes. In the thread I linked RR says

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I've found that rye and other grains colonize faster when prepared on the dry side.  Let them colonize this way, and then do a dunk/soak to put the moisture in for the flush.  The grain tek I use, which I've posted several times on this board and demonstrate in my DVD, results in about 40% water content by weight.
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But it is not clear if he means that as added water or genuine overall moisture. I suspect he meant added water so the actual moisture content would be higher.


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    #26368583 - 12/08/19 08:51 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Oats will come at 12% or less moisture content when dry and ready for sale. This thread ignores that so i naturally would assume the thread means added water based on grain weight. But clarity is helpful.


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    #26368664 - 12/08/19 09:37 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Oats will come at 12% or less moisture content when dry and ready for sale. This thread ignores that so i naturally would assume the thread means added water based on grain weight. But clarity is helpful.




Hey guys just got home from the store. Will reply with a message soon that covers the topic throughly.


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    #26369711 - 12/08/19 07:24 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)



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Oats will come at 12% or less moisture content when dry and ready for sale. This thread ignores that so i naturally would assume the thread means added water based on grain weight. But clarity is helpful.




πŸ’₯πŸ’₯πŸ’₯πŸ’₯πŸ’₯πŸ’₯πŸ’₯πŸ’₯πŸ’₯

MOISTURE PERCENTAGES EXPLAINED

There is no attempt by this Tek to claim to have knowledge of what the "actual" moisture content of the grain is before or after the Tek.

I dont have a clue what the moisture percentage of the grain is when it is pulled out of a #50lb bag. I figure they are all pretty much the same and go with that.

If your oats are holding a little more moisture than you would like to see then just choose a lower percentage of moisture from the % charts.

If you use this Tek to the "T" the most water you can get to absorb without having sticky grains is right at 275g of oats to 120g of water. Too much math to share but my 100% is based on this moisture content base line. It figures out to about 45g of water to 100g of oats as the 100% mark and works its way down from there.

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Give the Tek a shot with different percentages to see if wetter or dryer is better for the mycelium you are currently working with.

Don't make this Tek harder
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    #26370354 - 12/09/19 07:40 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

It’s pretty simple to find out how much something is hydrated....

Take weight prior to your tek then after wards and put in percentage


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    #26371091 - 12/09/19 02:57 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Bod is right on this one guys.



I don't think he is, i.e. he is not saying what you are doing.


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This thread ignores that so i naturally would assume the thread means added water based on grain weight.



Seems to me bod is assuming if somebody says if you add 100g water to 100g then it's makeup is 50% added water, 50:50. But your method is not that, you would describe a 50:50 grain to water ratio by weight as a "222% moisture content"

That is an absolutely fair and logical natural assumption for Bod to make (if he did!). It is what I assumed was being talked about, and what the other poster, trubblesome also assumed. This was until I saw your figures did not add up to that at all, and your OP has no reference at all to this 45g per 100g figure, which I see as needless confusion/complication.

So then I was guessing that you were trying to calculate the true moisture content, i.e. taking into account the ~12% natural moisture content and that you messed up the maths. These are the only 2 methods of talking about moisture content that I have ever seen before, and why I mentioned it. Stamets talked about this calculation in "the mushroom cultivator" and I think other books, talking of drying out grains in an oven etc. While it is somewhat interesting to know the exact moisture content of grains I do not think it is necessary at all when talking about recipies, esp. as the likes of oats, wheat, rye, barley are all very close in moisture content. When sporeworks talked of weight based recipes it was things like say 105g water to 100g grain. (or 105ml which is approx the same)

To me this is the easiest way. I have say 560g of grain, how much water do I add? well if I want the SW recipe then 105g x 5.6= 588g. Very easy & logical. I always find multiplication to be easier for people to understand, if using division people can often mess up by putting the wrong one on top. Minimise the maths

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Don't make this Tek harder
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I think this is what you have actually done, and the confusion here is evidence of that. But I am hugely supportive of what you are doing and experimenting with, so do not take this the wrong way. I see far more reason to use weight based recipes rather than volumetric, and am often advising people to weight their grains before and after prep, so they can both monitor moisture loss/gain and to be able to repeat their recipes, and have others confirm they got the similar hydration -everybody singing off the same hymn sheet. I remember being surprised at the difficulty I had in finding the PF tek stated in grams.

Some will talk of "bring to a rolling boil for 30mins" but that can result in very different moisture content for various reasons, e.g. the stove may not have the same power and so spend a lot longer time in hot water before it actually starts to boil.


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    #26371128 - 12/09/19 03:16 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Bod is right on this one guys.



I don't think he is, i.e. he is not saying what you are doing.


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This thread ignores that so i naturally would assume the thread means added water based on grain weight.



Seems to me bod is assuming if somebody says if you add 100g water to 100g then it's makeup is 50% added water, 50:50. But your method is not that, you would describe a 50:50 grain to water ratio by weight as a "222% moisture content"

That is an absolutely fair and logical natural assumption for Bod to make (if he did!). It is what I assumed was being talked about, and what the other poster, trubblesome also assumed. This was until I saw your figures did not add up to that at all, and your OP has no reference at all to this 45g per 100g figure, which I see as needless confusion/complication.

So then I was guessing that you were trying to calculate the true moisture content, i.e. taking into account the ~12% natural moisture content and that you messed up the maths. These are the only 2 methods of talking about moisture content that I have ever seen before, and why I mentioned it. Stamets talked about this calculation in "the mushroom cultivator" and I think other books, talking of drying out grains in an oven etc. While it is somewhat interesting to know the exact moisture content of grains I do not think it is necessary at all when talking about recipies, esp. as the likes of oats, wheat, rye, barley are all very close in moisture content. When sporeworks talked of weight based recipes it was things like say 105g water to 100g grain. (or 105ml which is approx the same)

To me this is the easiest way. I have say 560g of grain, how much water do I add? well if I want the SW recipe then 105g x 5.6= 588g. Very easy & logical. I always find multiplication to be easier for people to understand, if using division people can often mess up by putting the wrong one on top. Minimise the maths

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YogiBear said:
Don't make this Tek harder
than it is guys πŸ˜€



I think this is what you have actually done, and the confusion here is evidence of that. But I am hugely supportive of what you are doing and experimenting with, so do not take this the wrong way. I see far more reason to use weight based recipes rather than volumetric, and am often advising people to weight their grains before and after prep, so they can both monitor moisture loss/gain and to be able to repeat their recipes, and have others confirm they got the similar hydration -everybody singing off the same hymn sheet. I remember being surprised at the difficulty I had in finding the PF tek stated in grams.

Some will talk of "bring to a rolling boil for 30mins" but that can result in very different moisture content for various reasons, e.g. the stove may not have the same power and so spend a lot longer time in hot water before it actually starts to boil.




Hhmmm... don't know what to say other than if you use these numbers you will have controlled amounts of moisture, no matter how the numbers are derived. I just did my best to provide something that is repeatable and gets good spawn.

On my 3rd batch this way and myc is looking good 😍

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    #26371145 - 12/09/19 03:21 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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i'm not totally understanding the hydration % calculation you're using here - 86g water to 275g oats, and adding the 65 g from the soak time gets us 151g h2o:275 g oats, or ~55%? not 70%. am I missing something? my oats have been around 90% h2o by weight when they've finished drying.



this is still not the actual moisture content, as it's ignoring the natural moisture in the grains.

It makes sense to talk in those terms as it is practical for recipes, as long as people know what is being said.

A typical recipe would be to add 100g water to 100g grain. If the grain is 10% natural moisture then you end up with 110g water and 90g bone dry grain. So it is now at 45% moisture up from it's original 10%

I did some calculations here about commonly used recipes https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4371401






right, it's not actually the moisture content but it's the way bakers talk about hydration % when you're talking about making dough. weight of water:weight of flour, not weight of water:weight of all ingredients. Flour, oats, rye, etc, on average, have similar moisture content, with perhaps seasonal fluctuations depending on where and how it is stored. It just makes it easy to talk about when there is an agreed upon standard/method and why I was very confused by the % calculation here that seemed to assume everyone was on the same page.


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    #26371155 - 12/09/19 03:26 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I’ve had good results too and I measure volume with my eyes while pouring into the jars :shrug:

One question yogi, I was going to try your rinse method in the jar, how do you strain it? The strainer I have has holes to big and I don’t know what you mean by rinsing the grains 7 times in 2 minutes.

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    #26371236 - 12/09/19 03:55 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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trubblesome said:
i'm not totally understanding the hydration % calculation you're using here - 86g water to 275g oats, and adding the 65 g from the soak time gets us 151g h2o:275 g oats, or ~55%? not 70%. am I missing something? my oats have been around 90% h2o by weight when they've finished drying.



this is still not the actual moisture content, as it's ignoring the natural moisture in the grains.

It makes sense to talk in those terms as it is practical for recipes, as long as people know what is being said.

A typical recipe would be to add 100g water to 100g grain. If the grain is 10% natural moisture then you end up with 110g water and 90g bone dry grain. So it is now at 45% moisture up from it's original 10%

I did some calculations here about commonly used recipes https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4371401






right, it's not actually the moisture content but it's the way bakers talk about hydration % when you're talking about making dough. weight of water:weight of flour, not weight of water:weight of all ingredients. Flour, oats, rye, etc, on average, have similar moisture content, with perhaps seasonal fluctuations depending on where and how it is stored. It just makes it easy to talk about when there is an agreed upon standard/method and why I was very confused by the % calculation here that seemed to assume everyone was on the same page.



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Quote:

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trubblesome said:
i'm not totally understanding the hydration % calculation you're using here - 86g water to 275g oats, and adding the 65 g from the soak time gets us 151g h2o:275 g oats, or ~55%? not 70%. am I missing something? my oats have been around 90% h2o by weight when they've finished drying.



this is still not the actual moisture content, as it's ignoring the natural moisture in the grains.

It makes sense to talk in those terms as it is practical for recipes, as long as people know what is being said.

A typical recipe would be to add 100g water to 100g grain. If the grain is 10% natural moisture then you end up with 110g water and 90g bone dry grain. So it is now at 45% moisture up from it's original 10%

I did some calculations here about commonly used recipes https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4371401






right, it's not actually the moisture content but it's the way bakers talk about hydration % when you're talking about making dough. weight of water:weight of flour, not weight of water:weight of all ingredients. Flour, oats, rye, etc, on average, have similar moisture content, with perhaps seasonal fluctuations depending on where and how it is stored. It just makes it easy to talk about when there is an agreed upon standard/method and why I was very confused by the % calculation here that seemed to assume everyone was on the same page.




I knew Id be opening a can of worms with this Tek since it was more technical than a soak/simmer recipe.

Wish I was a biochemist. But all I know is how to get good oats and have a way to control the moisture content exactly to find what works for my myc. πŸ˜ŽπŸ‘

Maybe there is someone in the Shroomery famiky that csn give the numbers you are looking for???


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    #26371343 - 12/09/19 04:31 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I knew Id be opening a can of worms with this Tek since it was more technical than a soak/simmer recipe.

Wish I was a biochemist. But all I know is how to get good oats and have a way to control the moisture content exactly to find what works for my myc. πŸ˜ŽπŸ‘

Maybe there is someone in the Shroomery famiky that csn give the numbers you are looking for???





it's all good, I see what your calcuation is based on now that you explained it. maybe toss something in OP for bakers out there like me who might find themselves lost calculating dough recipes :crazy2:.

i've got a batch of oats on the stove right now and I felt like maybe I phrased it weird and felt bad and wanted to come back and make clear i don't mean to talk shit or anything, if it works for you, hell yeah. if it works for other people too, hell yeah.


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Re: Moisture Percentages Explained β€οΈπŸ’›πŸ’šπŸ’™ [Re: san pedro guy]
    #26371392 - 12/09/19 04:49 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I’ve had good results too and I measure volume with my eyes while pouring into the jars :shrug:

One question yogi, I was going to try your rinse method in the jar, how do you strain it? The strainer I have has holes to big and I don’t know what you mean by rinsing the grains 7 times in 2 minutes.

Thanks!




I used 300g oats to 100g water for my first test and got shroomies.

Then lightened it up some and really like what my new batch of 325g pf oats @75% is looking like.

I have these bad little strainers that were in this aprtment when I got here. They are for the sink drains. I suggest a small handheld cup strainer. Check amazon or google.



For the 2 Minutes i do:
Fill jar with warm tap water
Start the 2 minute timer
Place palm over jar mouth and shake 10 seconds
Place strainer over jar mouth
Turn upside down and drain and shake
Fill jar and repeat as many times as you can in 2 minutes

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Re: Precise Moisture Grain Tek (OATS) β€οΈπŸ’›πŸ’šπŸ’™ [Re: trubblesome]
    #26371479 - 12/09/19 05:23 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I knew Id be opening a can of worms with this Tek since it was more technical than a soak/simmer recipe.

Wish I was a biochemist. But all I know is how to get good oats and have a way to control the moisture content exactly to find what works for my myc. πŸ˜ŽπŸ‘

Maybe there is someone in the Shroomery famiky that csn give the numbers you are looking for???





it's all good, I see what your calcuation is based on now that you explained it. maybe toss something in OP for bakers out there like me who might find themselves lost calculating dough recipes :crazy2:.

i've got a batch of oats on the stove right now and I felt like maybe I phrased it weird and felt bad and wanted to come back and make clear i don't mean to talk shit or anything, if it works for you, hell yeah. if it works for other people too, hell yeah.





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Re: Precise Moisture Grain Tek (OATS) β€οΈπŸ’›πŸ’šπŸ’™ [Re: YogiBear]
    #26372956 - 12/10/19 11:32 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Maybe there is someone in the Shroomery famiky that csn give the numbers you are looking for???



Your recipe is 31.5g of water per 100g grain. I am basing that on your recommendation of 70% of your 45g figure. The maths is no problem for me, but might be for others.

It just seems odd that this 31.5g figure is not directly said anywhere, since that is the usual way you would see weight based recipes stated.

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75% (325g:108g)



^^that one is 33.2g water per 100g grain.

All I am saying is that this line causes confusion

"Choose the desired amount of spawn and then
the moisture % that you want to work with"

As it is not the moisture %, and it sounded like your recipe was going to result in that moisture %. I was also thrown a bit since your added water was so very low, below 1/3rd of what I would usually see in weight based recipes.

I think it is interesting as I have added LC to bone dry grains before, grains which were wetted to high hydration and microwaved until dry again drier than the grain originally was out of the bag, this results in a porous grain which readily takes on moisture. I will give the low initial moisture level a go, I can't remember how low I have tried before.

I would wonder how the BE compares growing with this 31.5g recipe compared to say a 100g recipe, as I think it is so dry I wonder if the myc would struggle to use the nutrients within.


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Re: Precise Moisture Grain Tek (OATS) β€οΈπŸ’›πŸ’šπŸ’™ [Re: blackout]
    #26373691 - 12/10/19 05:57 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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YogiBear said:
Maybe there is someone in the Shroomery famiky that csn give the numbers you are looking for???



Your recipe is 31.5g of water per 100g grain. I am basing that on your recommendation of 70% of your 45g figure. The maths is no problem for me, but might be for others.

It just seems odd that this 31.5g figure is not directly said anywhere, since that is the usual way you would see weight based recipes stated.

Quote:

75% (325g:108g)



^^that one is 33.2g water per 100g grain.

All I am saying is that this line causes confusion

"Choose the desired amount of spawn and then
the moisture % that you want to work with"

As it is not the moisture %, and it sounded like your recipe was going to result in that moisture %. I was also thrown a bit since your added water was so very low, below 1/3rd of what I would usually see in weight based recipes.

I think it is interesting as I have added LC to bone dry grains before, grains which were wetted to high hydration and microwaved until dry again drier than the grain originally was out of the bag, this results in a porous grain which readily takes on moisture. I will give the low initial moisture level a go, I can't remember how low I have tried before.

I would wonder how the BE compares growing with this 31.5g recipe compared to say a 100g recipe, as I think it is so dry I wonder if the myc would struggle to use the nutrients within.




Sweet! Let us know your results with the ratio you use. πŸ‘

And the amazing thing about this Tek is that you get super juicy grains with much less water.

This picture was taken 24hours after the PC cycle.



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Re: Quick Oat Grain Jars (No Soak or Simmer) [Re: YogiBear]
    #26373857 - 12/10/19 07:49 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I have to say, I think the formatting and icons, text size ect you used reads very well in the op. It’s separated nicely and clean to read. The explosion icons highlighting groupings of text is a great idea. πŸ‘


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Re: Quick Oat Grain Jars (No Soak or Simmer) [Re: eatyualive]
    #26374480 - 12/11/19 06:52 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks Eat πŸŽ…πŸΌ

Very kind of you

Ive been programming and designing websites since Windows 3.11 first came out and hard drives were 200mb! Remember those ancient things called dial up modems?? LOL Was also a graphic artist for a book company too so my eye for art and layout are from professional training with Quark Express, Photoshop and Illustrator. Kind of 2nd nature to work over the visual aspect of a software program.

The software here on the Shroomery Forum is actually pretty robust for formatting. Use my Journal "private threads" function to work on things before hand


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Precise Moisture Oat Jars (no soak/simmer) β€οΈπŸ’›πŸ’šπŸ’™ [Re: YogiBear]
    #26380694 - 12/14/19 06:04 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Did a couple jars with MS syringe just for a worst case test...

8 days later...



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Re: Precise Moisture Oat Jars (no soak/simmer) β€οΈπŸ’›πŸ’šπŸ’™ [Re: YogiBear]
    #26386477 - 12/17/19 05:53 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

How are you getting 80% moisture content by adding 108 grams of water to 300 grams oats?

You should also take into account the grains starting hydration if you can. Not really needed 4 this but its a thing.

I find having around 40% moisture content for grain jars seems perfect. 350g total preped weight 140grams being water 210 grams being wheat (same concept for oats im just using wheat atm)

I also dont quick prep because the higher contents i want create a sloppy mess at the bottom post pc.


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Re: Precise Moisture Oat Jars (no soak/simmer) β€οΈπŸ’›πŸ’šπŸ’™ [Re: van hatton]
    #26386645 - 12/17/19 08:36 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Hey! Thanks for checking out the Tek. Check the bottom of the tek for the moisture % disclaimer. Its all there πŸ‘

Basically the % values given are just rough numbers what the grain will hold using this tek method of hydration. If you are not sure where to start go with 300g oats and 100g water. Should be perfect every time for you. πŸ„

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Re: Precise Moisture Oat Jars (no soak/simmer) β€οΈπŸ’›πŸ’šπŸ’™ [Re: YogiBear]
    #26606839 - 04/16/20 09:50 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Hello. I'm new here.
I did something like this tek
I put the oats right in my jar and added hot water and went straight to the pressure cooker.
somewhere around 160g of oats and 90g of water.
I did not rinse with hot water.
The result was apparently good, with some grains popped in the bottom of the jar.
next time i will use less water.
have you tried to do it as I did, without rinsing for two minutes with hot water?
sorry if you look confused, i don't speak english


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