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OfflineBuckomcdoogle
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Delerium tremens (alcohol withdrawal)
    #26358169 - 12/02/19 11:47 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Now this is very personal to me.....
Im really glad to have so many very intelligent, open minded people I can tell stuff like this to here...

Im just going to start by saying, alcoholism runs in my family REALLY REALLY badly,

My dad was an alcoholic, his dad was an alcohol,etc etc

There's even this old diary of one of my forefathers (Post civil war frontier) talking about how he was smuggling booze out to the territories.....
Trading it to natives....... >,> :frown:
Most of us white folks could probably trace something predatory like this back to our ancestors....
anyway....

My dad was easily one of the worst addicts I have ever known

When I was about 7 I remember him having a seizure infront of me because he woke up and couldn't find his bottle...

When he was getting off smack he would literally take his methadone and chase it down with a pint of Jim beam.....

I saw him struggle with minor seizure/delerium tremens for years after that.

What makes alcoholism so dangerous is it sneaks up on you....
You get into a habit of having a few drinks every day.

Before you know it, you start getting irritable whenever your not drinking
It starts to occupy your mind...


The first time I got really really drunk.... I knew I would have a drinking problem some day....

I remember feeling so relaxed and having so much fun....

Then after this, I started finding...

Whenever something bad or negative would happen throughout my day, The first thought in my head was "I just want to get drunk"

Genetics absolutely have a roll to play with it..

even now whenever i have the first drink of the night its almost like i get this rush to my brain and my mind basically says-

"OHYEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, THATS GOOD"

I have gotten much better about it as I got further into my 20s

I try not to drink more than once a week.....

But even still.....


I feel like a ticking time bomb......

How many bad days am I away from being found in a puddle of puke?

For a long time I used cannabis as a crutch to give me a buzz without drinking.
Now that Im off the smoke (decade+habit)
Ive found I really just need to keep myself occupied ALL THE TIME

Otherwise I get the urge to drink.

Boredom really is the devils playground......


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"Nothing is more dangerous to your creativity than comfort and familiarity"

"Nihilism is the most basic truth in existence,
the only consistency throughout the world, and the universe is
chaos and decay"
"Logic leads to nihilism"



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Re: Delerium trements (alcohol withdrawal) [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
    #26358170 - 12/02/19 11:49 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

With all of that being said.....

My dad has been sober since 2011 and I am so so proud of him.



And grateful ive gotten to spend time with him as an adult.

I am thankful every day he didnt die when I was a kid.
It was probably more likely than not....

<3


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"Nothing is more dangerous to your creativity than comfort and familiarity"

"Nihilism is the most basic truth in existence,
the only consistency throughout the world, and the universe is
chaos and decay"
"Logic leads to nihilism"



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Re: Delerium trements (alcohol withdrawal) [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
    #26359606 - 12/03/19 05:08 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

That's some heavy stuff.

How did your dad manage to quit? 

Alcohol is a dark and dangerous substance.  It's seductive as hell, and anyone who falls into alcoholism will surely meet their destruction eventually.  Many manage to quit before that quite happens though.

This desire for it is difficult to kill.  And of course that's the root of the problem. 

I have a friend who overcame seemingly hopeless alcoholism completely after a single flood dose of ibogaineHCL.  He was drunk for over ten years, had totally fucked up his life with it, nothing could reach him.  No one could get through to him.

He never had another drink after that.  It's been about 6 years.  He just says he's not curious about it anymore, he's drank his fair share of it and no longer finds it interesting, and if he was to drink it now, he thinks it would just make him feel very sad.

He can be around people who are drinking, doesn't make him crave it, but he usually leaves after people are stupid drunk.  Understandable.  Drunk people are annoying if you are not also drunk, right?

So, I don't know what to say other than ibogaine killed this guy's unhealthy desire for alcohol.  It's like a miracle.  It's like some story out of the new testament where Jesus rescues the demon possessed.


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Re: Delerium trements (alcohol withdrawal) [Re: JohnRainy] * 1
    #26359628 - 12/03/19 05:21 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

He was one of the lucky ones......

For every one that makes it out 10 die,
either slowly, by the effects of an esophageal hemorrhage
(Where the lining on your insides gets so worn down from drinking that you basically bleed out of your mouth and asshole until you pass away...)

Or quickly by alcohol related accident....

My uncle had a bit too much to drink one day...... fell down the stairs and died...... he was 51........

Alcoholism is an ABSOLUTELY FATAL disease.

Its also hugely generational......
The child of an alcoholic is 2-3 times more likely to have a drinking problem....


Did your friend leave the country for the ibogaine????

As far as I know, its pretty rare in the states


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"Nothing is more dangerous to your creativity than comfort and familiarity"

"Nihilism is the most basic truth in existence,
the only consistency throughout the world, and the universe is
chaos and decay"
"Logic leads to nihilism"



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Re: Delerium trements (alcohol withdrawal) [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
    #26359718 - 12/03/19 06:16 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

He ordered in online and did it at home.  There are sources that can be found online that will mail ibogaine internationally. 

It came in a little mylar impulse sealed bag labeled as something else.

It's intense.  It makes you sick and bedridden for up to 4 days, while on an intense but pleasant psychedelic trip the likes of which you never thought possible.  You need someone to watch over you during that time.


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Re: Delerium trements (alcohol withdrawal) [Re: JohnRainy]
    #26425865 - 01/10/20 02:55 AM (4 years, 19 days ago)

Ibogaine has been used to treat opiate addiction with good success.


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