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Cultivation in a tent. 😬
#26357252 - 12/02/19 01:44 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quick back story. Started cultivating in a tent due to these reasons: cannot get ambient lighting in my room. Almost completely dark through out the day. (Where I sleep). Lots of constant movement in my home. Lots of dust. Temperatures fluctuate too rapidly. Drops below 70 at times and occasionally hits above 80 and sits for an hour or two. I can’t be home at the times needed to mist my substrate. It dries out often and I can’t keep those beads of water on the top layer. I’ve tried poly, micropore tape and all sorts of ways to dial in my monotubs. Except the SGFC method...(might be my solution except I’m under the impression that tubs in a tent do not need to be modified. Some one suggested I try a SGFC. I just don’t understand if it’s necessary when using bulk substrate? Aren’t SGFC for cakes? I am gone 12 hours a day and misting is becoming a problem. On my days off I am misting every 2 hours. I come back and it’s dry on top. This is the case for mono tubs inside and outside the tent. This house fluctuates too much and I feel a tent is the only way to accomplish temp and moisture levels. Even with a humidifier running 24/7, it’s a tiny little thing sprays for 10 sec then shuts off for 10sec. I also have tried two methods for FAE. One being a desk fan on top of tent pushing air in 24/7, also tried putting it on a timer every two hours, with this I could see how much dust was being pumped in. So I then tried my carbon air filter. It’s a smaller unit. Not the big one.
I am now using the carbon air filter to pump air in every two hours. Tiny humidifier running 24/7. I’m above 80% humidity all the time. Here’s the big question, IS MISTING NECESSARY IF THE TUBS ARE OPEN AND THE HUMIDIFIER IS RAINING DOWN ON THEM, BUT THEY STILL LOOK DRY, SHOULD I STILL BE MISTING? I am still misting every tub from shoeboxes to 15qt and also 66qt tubs. I have one monotubs outside and others inside the tent. So far my best results are from using the tent. This one weekend I was gone for 36 hours. My set up was as follows: 12/12 light cycle, humidifier 24/7 intermittently, desk fan blowing from inside the tent 24/7. And when I came back the mushies had grown substantially. I tried duplicating it but that same set up caused my 66qt to stall. Meanwhile a 15qt is thriving with full flushes inside the tent. Genetics? The tub I moved out is now coming in OK, but still not as good as it should be.
So I need some expert advice at this point. I am aware that tents are not the route to be taking. I just feel that I am away at crucial times. And also gone during the day. Which is the hardest times to control temp. It will rain here and then the sun comes out and it’s like super hot outside. I come home to dry substrates and pinsets in the corners and uncolonized spots and funky smells and extremely fuzzy feet, tiny fruits, then big huge fruits, mushrooms that look like they need time and then BAM! Spores everywhere! All together I know I am doing a decent job. I need help dialing in and understanding the concept of a Martha tent. Best place to have the fan? Does it need a filter? Should air be pushed in or sucked out? Humidifier all the time? Humidifier Placed on top to rain down or on bottom to build up? Does the tent need a vent? So many more ?..... Thank you for your time!!!!! I can post pics. Just ask me for which one you would like to see. My setup, big fruit tub, etc.
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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: BorisTBD]
#26357919 - 12/02/19 08:27 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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This thread was moved from Advanced Mycology.
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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: bodhisatta]
#26357925 - 12/02/19 08:28 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you're misting every two hours you're doing something wrong. Bulk tubs can go days without misting. Frequently all the way through the first harvest without being touched.
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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: bodhisatta]
#26358347 - 12/03/19 04:08 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ummm. Thanx? I expected a quick answer or informative link from a moderator/trusted cultivator at the very least. I now know why new people are so quick to show disrespect towards a response like this. And they still get more help and attention this this thread! SMH!. Just saying I’m doing something wrong doesn’t help one bit! Especially when I described the details as best I could to prevent people from popping in and saying such arrogant statements. I know there are a few things i am doing wrong, but did you read my post? Or just looked at it and see “tent” “long text” and give your very expected negative response towards growing in a tent. I type in Martha tek in the search and there is no shortage of you slandering people who are attempting automated grows. Your exaggeration of the maintenance of an automated tent Is funny. As I said in the OP. I need help dialing it in. You really have a personal type grudge against tents Look dude, I get it, Martha broke your heart. Lol. Don’t take it out on others who feel a tent is necessary. Honestly the area I live and the SEASON make it very difficult. I follow your teks btw. Exactly as it says. My house is not your average ambient lighting room temperature scenario. Lots of obstacles as said in the OP.
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bodhisatta said: I would suggest finding relevant threads not ones that have died years ago. And all the people that posted in it haven't logged in in years. Don't bother digging up old dead stuff. Set the search to look for new relevant and/or time tested results prove stuff. Check out my search engine TEK in my links(in my signature)
Ive never seen a martha do as impressive as some tubs. And any martha grows ive seen that were impressive were done by experienced growers. And on top of that they're way less automated. Worrying about calculating air exchanges is ridiculous unless you're trying to run a farm and grow hundreds of pounds a month.
You can grow a couple pounds a week with 4 tubs on rotation in a corner of a room and all you need to do is mist a couple times thru fruiting. No humidifier to fill and clean. No martha to clean. No condensation and water to wipe up and worry about.
Marthas are really best left for people with more than a few grows under their belt, you'll have a dick of a time trying to dial it in based on what you read about and think mushrooms want rather than dialing it in based on experience. If you aim for 99% humidity most noobs using tents grow a bunch of contamination.
If you design a fruiting chamber based on reading that you need X amount of air exchange and such and such a humidity you're going to have a bad time. Especially if you've also never grown a mushroom before and have no experience to base a design off of
Not advanced he says? Your the reason I decided to post in this forum. As you said, experienced growers are the only one that have had success. I was attempting to reach out to the advanced community. Thanx for moving it into the Contamination forum, oh I mean the mushroom cultivation forum...and sorry for wasting time in your heavily regulated advanced forum. Growing in a tent: lots of variables involved, circumstantial to each cultivators situation, requires experience to pull it off. Etc. Hmmmm, seems pretty advanced to me. I respect you bod, I wouldn’t be this far without your contributions.
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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: BorisTBD]
#26358406 - 12/03/19 05:20 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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You can’t gain experience thru the internet.
You just quoted him saying tents are not for noobs lol
Did you even try anything noob friendly or just assume you had to shoot for more advanced techniques?
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I’ve got plenty of fruits my friend. Plenty of tubs inside and out of the tent. Doing all kinds of funky stuff. So far my best results are from using the tent. Do you even read bro? Yet again another arrogant boy commenting with no help. I am Just trying seeking guidance. How to maximize my flushes with my current scenario. Throw the tent out and I’m left with everything said in the OP. Keep the tent and I’m dealing with everything in the OP!!!!!! Too long for you? Still no questions answered...
I’d also like to add that you CAN gain experience from the internet. By reading. School Teachers have all the experience that they teach there students. Does this mean the students will never be successful because of lack of experience?
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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: BorisTBD]
#26358459 - 12/03/19 06:01 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I did read it, you couldn’t figure out to dial in tubs so you are now trying to dial in a tent, which you already admitted is usually only successful for experienced growers.
Gaining experience from growing is not the same as reading, sorry. 
Just trying to save you some time since you are kind of all over the place. You will have better success dialing in tubs or shoeboxes by making small changes and notating the effects than you would by trying a completely different growing strategy then asking people on here to figure out your problems when it doesn’t work the first try.
You will always know your own growing conditions better than anyone here no matter how long your posts become.
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Just so you know when you read you are gaining experience from others. Taking In the trial and errors. That’s experience handed down. How do you think I made my monotubs? By many years of experience? No, I read a tek and now have the creators experience, 2nd hand. No time wasted. Then I read another tek about dialing it in, BAM. Fruits my friend without any prior experience. You don’t always need experience to get things done. What say you to that? Now I’m faced with a new season and a new set of problems. And dialing in the TUB or TENT has been difficult. Hence the reason for the OP! You just popped in and assumed I’m a newb. I have experience guy. Just not much and not experience with how evaporation works. Humidifiers. Etc. I just learned if u put tap water in these things they throw off a white smoke, and that they help with FAE? So why have a fan in the tent?
These are the things I’m trying to discuss and see what has worked for others In The recent years. I’m getting tired of reading thru the Martha tek post filled with people just like you. No help. Not even a link to info. Just arrogance! 🤦♂️
Honestly I’m just encouraging a decent conversation with those who have experience with tents. 
You are actually wasting my time by still not answering a single question and instead must argue with you on topics other than the OP!
So now that I know you have read I can now assume you are not comprehending that I am seeking guidance and not a blueprint on how to fix my problems
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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: BorisTBD] 1
#26358588 - 12/03/19 07:12 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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You go to the track with a 200hp honda and you come in last So next week you try a 1000hp Ferrari But you couldn't handle 200hp so you crash the Ferrari in the first turn.
This is trying to dial in a grow tent when you're not getting tubs right
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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: bodhisatta]
#26358606 - 12/03/19 07:25 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have dialed in tubs on my first grow with no problems. Weather was just right and substrate hardly dried out. This season is funky. Monotubs are drying out due to factors I don’t understand. Is it really that hard to provide decent feedback?
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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: BorisTBD]
#26358613 - 12/03/19 07:29 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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It kind of sounds like you're thinking that because your temperature fluctuates it's making it impossible to keep doing tubs but what you don't realize is that hundreds of other people are in the same boat
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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: bodhisatta]
#26358622 - 12/03/19 07:37 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Does temperature fluctuating a cause for dry tubs? Or more a air thing?
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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: BorisTBD]
#26358640 - 12/03/19 07:52 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I guess you have a different definition of experience.
I’m arrogant? Hahahaha
You’re the one upset his post was moved from the advanced forum because you are asking noob questions.
Good luck with your name calling and shit talking to the people trying to help you bud.
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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: BorisTBD]
#26358646 - 12/03/19 07:57 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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heat and humidify the tent to a normal level and use the tubs as they're supposed to be used with the lids on the way the tek you're following describes...then you have a place in your house that has consistent humidity and temperature and you can dial in the tubs easier and have results you can consistently replicate.
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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: trubblesome]
#26358675 - 12/03/19 08:21 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Holy salt, what’s with all the bitching? Calm your tits, tuts.
A tub basically acts as a miniature tent. Tents keep conditions stable, but so do tubs. Tents take a lot of tinkering and dialing in...but so does a no-maintenance monotub. If you can make one work, the other shouldn’t be a challenge. But you can’t, so stop being so salty 🤷🏻♂️
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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: feldman114]
#26358713 - 12/03/19 08:52 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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For what it's worth, I live in Alaska in an unfinished house, and my temps can be 50 when I wake up, and up to 80 when the fire is roaring. The only non-standard modification I've made is using a mono to fruit cakes (due to the woodstove). My monos and shoeboxes still require virtually zero upkeep thanks to prepping my sub propperly. While I agree that tact can fluctuate here in the Cult, it doesn't serve to discount the advice we all come here for. Bod's analogy was spot on. Nothing wrong with a tent, but as my conditions illustrate, it's simply not necissary; and isn't helping you dial in your tubs. No reason to mist that much. It's contrary to logic.
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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: feldman114]
#26358720 - 12/03/19 08:59 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'd try not to be so offended by people not reading every word of your post, it's a fucking wall. After a couple sentences you'll lose most people.
I'm a fairly "experienced grower" and I run 2 Martha's 24/7. My experience can tell you that Martha's are a big PITA but 'mostly' necessary for exotics. It's far easier to fuck up a cubensis grow in a Martha then it is in a tub. Tubs and shoeboxes work like magic, Martha's are a lot of work.
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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: Grimsweeper]
#26358808 - 12/03/19 10:02 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I’ve got 30 degree temp swings and a normal rh of 16%. But the last week it’s been as high as 77 due to rain.
I only have shoeboxes but as long as the sub is hydrated correctly for your space nothing else seems to affect them. I’d really look into experimenting with how wet you make your substrate, at first I figured if I made it too dry I could just mist more but it’s just not the same.
I can’t say enough about how easy shoeboxes are once you figure out how much moisture they need initially. Then it’s just put the lid on and leave it alone for two weeks.
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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: A.k.a]
#26359055 - 12/03/19 12:55 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I’m only name calling and shit talking to you San Pedro boy. From the moment you stepped in nothing but negativity from you. Saying “hope you get fruits” when OP clearly spelled everything out.
You don’t have to read the WALL people! If it’s too long for your brain then go help those with short attention span.
I posted a wall in attempt to sift thru the arrogant people that pop in just to cause drama. Like the San Pedro boy. He the only one that don’t belong here. Everyone else has been helpful.
Especially these newer post. The exact info I needed. Now I can search through these users post and see what they been thru. And also a better understanding that my temps are not really my problem. I’m now on to two factors that could be the problem. Instead of many.
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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: BorisTBD] 1
#26359072 - 12/03/19 01:07 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Everyone was more helpful and way less aggro than you in your own thread so calm down bro.
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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: trubblesome]
#26359079 - 12/03/19 01:10 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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trubblesome said: heat and humidify the tent to a normal level and use the tubs as they're supposed to be used with the lids on the way the tek you're following describes...then you have a place in your house that has consistent humidity and temperature and you can dial in the tubs easier and have results you can consistently replicate.
Thank you. Cold doesn’t scare me. Just stalls growth right? My problem is it being too hot. So I use a small ac unit for that room only. The whole concept here is just as you describe. Easier to maintain an environment in the tent than the whole house. I had no intention on using a tent. Conditions are leaving me to believe it’s the best option for the season. For example: I can get the room to perfect conditions. Except the ac small ac unit is blowing high pressure in the room. I noticed my mushies on the last monotub were pointing all over the place. Instead of standing straight up. Also only pinned in the corners. Too much air flow I presume. Needed protection and the tent came into play.
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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: feldman114]
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feldman114 said: Holy salt, what’s with all the bitching? Calm your tits, tuts.
A tub basically acts as a miniature tent. Tents keep conditions stable, but so do tubs. Tents take a lot of tinkering and dialing in...but so does a no-maintenance monotub. If you can make one work, the other shouldn’t be a challenge. But you can’t, so stop being so salty 🤷🏻♂️
I have made monotubs work. Season has changed... new set of problems. Not as easy as it was one month ago.
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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: BorisTBD]
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feldman114 said: Holy salt, what’s with all the bitching? Calm your tits, tuts.
A tub basically acts as a miniature tent. Tents keep conditions stable, but so do tubs. Tents take a lot of tinkering and dialing in...but so does a no-maintenance monotub. If you can make one work, the other shouldn’t be a challenge. But you can’t, so stop being so salty 🤷🏻♂️
I have made monotubs work. Season has changed... new set of problems. Not as easy as it was one month ago.
Yeah, that’s where the dialing-in part comes in. Cause guess what - seasons change for other people too. For example, I use more MP tape during winter months cause humidity is low. But in the Summer, I use a higher spawn ratio cause high temps invite contams faster.
Fiddle with it until it works all year round. It’s the easiest route...deff compared to growing in a tent🤷🏻♂️
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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: bodhisatta]
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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: feldman114]
#26359133 - 12/03/19 01:42 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ya dude I'm just gonna ignore the rants you handed out and just say this: theres no reason a monotub cant work for you, bottom of the fucking line.
I think what they're saying is if you cant get a monotub to work you more than likely will fail at the Martha as well.
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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: BorisTBD]
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Grimsweeper said: I'd try not to be so offended by people not reading every word of your post, it's a fucking wall. After a couple sentences you'll lose most people.
I'm a fairly "experienced grower" and I run 2 Martha's 24/7. My experience can tell you that Martha's are a big PITA but 'mostly' necessary for exotics. It's far easier to fuck up a cubensis grow in a Martha then it is in a tub. Tubs and shoeboxes work like magic, Martha's are a lot of work.
Thank you thank you. You the mans im looking for. Any links to some Martha info? Por favor. This morning I did some good reading and I think I’m understanding that humidifiers provide FAE? I thought it was for humidity. I see people using ultra Sonics for air exchange. Me no understand? Also I been using tap water. Which created this white smoke that was musty and not fresh. Could this be causing issues?
I’m now leaning more towards two desk fans circulating air in the room and hopefully that keeps it cool enough below 85, with a humidifier running periodically. Sort of turning this room into a big tent. Leaving the ac unit off. The ac unit creates a lot of pressure in the room.
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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: feldman114]
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I appreciate that last post feldman114, So using a higher spawn ratio lowers the risk of contam. Good to know. I use very high ratios so probably the reason my tent isn’t a mold factory yet...
So far my best pin sets are using the tent. And also in these 15qt shoeboxes. Maybe it’s the season for shoeboxes? My monotubs suck.
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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: BorisTBD]
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don't put tap water in an ultrasonic humidifier or yeah, you'll get that white dust everywhere, that's the minerals in the water. not great to breathe that shit in.
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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: BorisTBD]
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BorisTBD said: I appreciate that last post feldman114, So using a higher spawn ratio lowers the risk of contam. Good to know. I use very high ratios so probably the reason my tent isn’t a mold factory yet...
So far my best pin sets are using the tent. And also in these 15qt shoeboxes. Maybe it’s the season for shoeboxes? My monotubs suck.
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alaskappalachian said: For what it's worth, I live in Alaska in an unfinished house, and my temps can be 50 when I wake up, and up to 80 when the fire is roaring. The only non-standard modification I've made is using a mono to fruit cakes (due to the woodstove). My monos and shoeboxes still require virtually zero upkeep thanks to prepping my sub propperly. While I agree that tact can fluctuate here in the Cult, it doesn't serve to discount the advice we all come here for. Bod's analogy was spot on. Nothing wrong with a tent, but as my conditions illustrate, it's simply not necissary; and isn't helping you dial in your tubs. No reason to mist that much. It's contrary to logic.
Perhaps I’m misting when the substrate doesn’t need it. If it looks dry I mist it. If there are no water beads I mist it. But when I mist I can hear how wet the top layer is. Could it just look dry but not actually need a misting?
80 would be ok with me but I’m getting at 85 and sits for hours. Maybe I’m just paranoid about the contams but my spawn ratio may be helping with that? Should I just ignore the high temp and focus more on air exchange?
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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: trubblesome]
#26359276 - 12/03/19 02:44 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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trubblesome said: don't put tap water in an ultrasonic humidifier or yeah, you'll get that white dust everywhere, that's the minerals in the water. not great to breathe that shit in.
I been breathing it in slightly when I open the tent...
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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: BorisTBD]
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yeah don't do that. you gotta be using distilled or reverse osmosis shit.
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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: trubblesome]
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So not even purified water?
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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: BorisTBD]
#26359346 - 12/03/19 03:11 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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if it's a demineralizing filter yeah that's fine. I use RO water myself because I'm using it for my plants anyway. but in addition to spitting that white dust out the mineral deposits in the humidifier can feed mold and bacteria in the tank. make sure you're sanitizing the tank and reservoir of your humidifier weekly.
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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: trubblesome]
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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: BorisTBD]
#26359570 - 12/03/19 04:49 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I use tap water. Search "Jartha". It's dialed in for pans but it's a good design.
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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: BorisTBD]
#26359833 - 12/03/19 07:21 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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alaskappalachian said: For what it's worth, I live in Alaska in an unfinished house, and my temps can be 50 when I wake up, and up to 80 when the fire is roaring. The only non-standard modification I've made is using a mono to fruit cakes (due to the woodstove). My monos and shoeboxes still require virtually zero upkeep thanks to prepping my sub propperly. While I agree that tact can fluctuate here in the Cult, it doesn't serve to discount the advice we all come here for. Bod's analogy was spot on. Nothing wrong with a tent, but as my conditions illustrate, it's simply not necissary; and isn't helping you dial in your tubs. No reason to mist that much. It's contrary to logic.
Perhaps I’m misting when the substrate doesn’t need it. If it looks dry I mist it. If there are no water beads I mist it. But when I mist I can hear how wet the top layer is. Could it just look dry but not actually need a misting?
80 would be ok with me but I’m getting at 85 and sits for hours. Maybe I’m just paranoid about the contams but my spawn ratio may be helping with that? Should I just ignore the high temp and focus more on air exchange?
I have terrible lighting in here (tres dungeonique...), so I check surface conditions with a LED flashlight (helps me see the surface much, much better than regular overhead lighting). Can be deceptive, although that might be irrelevant for you. It just all comes down to getting your sub repped right and engineering your tubs correctly. You're difinately misting too much, but that doesn't mean your tubs aren't too dry either. Just means something's not right. Twenty years ago when I grew it was an experimental nightmare... and I did a lot of outdoor beds anyway becasue conditions in the Carolinas were much more conducive. Now I live by the updated advice/specs provided on here (Bod's teks have helped me get back up-to-date at a very satisfying pace. The only "experimental" modification I've made was tossing the SGFC because I am comfortable enough with observing surface conditions to know how/why I was getting fucked over. I wouldn't worry too much if- as you say- the temps hold at 80+ for an hour or two a day. I prefer cold to hot, by far. Set your thermostat lower and deal with lower lows maybe? Also- I'm terrible at judging by photos- but your layer of sub looks a bit thin... Best of luck, bud.
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alaskappalachian said: For what it's worth, I live in Alaska in an unfinished house, and my temps can be 50 when I wake up, and up to 80 when the fire is roaring. The only non-standard modification I've made is using a mono to fruit cakes (due to the woodstove). My monos and shoeboxes still require virtually zero upkeep thanks to prepping my sub propperly. While I agree that tact can fluctuate here in the Cult, it doesn't serve to discount the advice we all come here for. Bod's analogy was spot on. Nothing wrong with a tent, but as my conditions illustrate, it's simply not necissary; and isn't helping you dial in your tubs. No reason to mist that much. It's contrary to logic.
Perhaps I’m misting when the substrate doesn’t need it. If it looks dry I mist it. If there are no water beads I mist it. But when I mist I can hear how wet the top layer is. Could it just look dry but not actually need a misting?
80 would be ok with me but I’m getting at 85 and sits for hours. Maybe I’m just paranoid about the contams but my spawn ratio may be helping with that? Should I just ignore the high temp and focus more on air exchange?
I have terrible lighting in here (tres dungeonique...), so I check surface conditions with a LED flashlight (helps me see the surface much, much better than regular overhead lighting). Can be deceptive, although that might be irrelevant for you. It just all comes down to getting your sub repped right and engineering your tubs correctly. You're difinately misting too much, but that doesn't mean your tubs aren't too dry either. Just means something's not right. Twenty years ago when I grew it was an experimental nightmare... and I did a lot of outdoor beds anyway becasue conditions in the Carolinas were much more conducive. Now I live by the updated advice/specs provided on here (Bod's teks have helped me get back up-to-date at a very satisfying pace. The only "experimental" modification I've made was tossing the SGFC because I am comfortable enough with observing surface conditions to know how/why I was getting fucked over. I wouldn't worry too much if- as you say- the temps hold at 80+ for an hour or two a day. I prefer cold to hot, by far. Set your thermostat lower and deal with lower lows maybe? Also- I'm terrible at judging by photos- but your layer of sub looks a bit thin... Best of luck, bud. 
Thank you for your responses. Ya, bods teks are the only ones I follow and have had great success. Trying to find the perfect balance is tough. I know your right about me misting too much. Within these last 3 days I stopped misting one of my tubs. I was misting this specific spot that was not colonizing. Stopped for 3 days and now seems to be coming thru. Not sure what the science is behind this. Seems the water was suppressing the mycelium.
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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: BorisTBD]
#26361320 - 12/04/19 03:45 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Overmisting and over hydrated substrates are far more detrimental than being on the dry side imo
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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: bodhisatta]
#26361325 - 12/04/19 03:47 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Can you show me a picture of said tent?
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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: BorisTBD]
#26361845 - 12/04/19 08:59 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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What kind of AC do you know of thats small enough to supply only a grow tent with cool air and where can I get one? I'll get 3 because tents spread contams throughout the whole thing pretty easy.
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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: BorisTBD]
#26361853 - 12/04/19 09:08 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sounds like your main issue is your home. I live in a apartment and they don't provide AC here only central heat. So until I got an AC for the room I grow in I literally had to time my grows to coincide with appropriate temp outside because it will go up past 100 degrees in my house without AC. Fall is my best grow time indoors until I got an AC. Oh and winter and spring with the heater on set to 70 degrees. 70 degrees is kinda hot for me to sleep so i literally just deal with it. Timing will help you out probably. Just get everything ready for that time of year and grow as much as you can in a few months. You should be able to get enough to last you all year, I did.
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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: ZombiWurm]
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ZombiWurm said: Sounds like your main issue is your home. I live in a apartment and they don't provide AC here only central heat. So until I got an AC for the room I grow in I literally had to time my grows to coincide with appropriate temp outside because it will go up past 100 degrees in my house without AC. Fall is my best grow time indoors until I got an AC. Oh and winter and spring with the heater on set to 70 degrees. 70 degrees is kinda hot for me to sleep so i literally just deal with it. Timing will help you out probably. Just get everything ready for that time of year and grow as much as you can in a few months. You should be able to get enough to last you all year, I did.
Yes, finally someone is getting the big picture here. Insulation isn’t that great. I am not wanting to heat or cool my whole house just for one grow room. Especially when I’m not home. 12+ hours at times. Multiple days at other times. ( I did mention though I have a small ac unit cooling the room)And not only that but each room differs in temp throughout the day.
Some one has PM’d me and is currently helping me with EVERYTHING I need to do. I now understand what my problems are and they are outlined in the OP. Except a few additional problems I will out line here.
Temps fluctuate too much. Ac unit cools the room. But blows too hard and is literally clearing the air in room multiple times as it’s running. So way way too much FAE. Then I over compensated by misting way too much on a sub that is perfectly hydrated to my environment( lots of trial and error for my bulk subs at first) so I know it perfectly hydrated and doesn’t need to be misted at all. But top dries out and I freaked out. Resorting to the tent is literally my best option. The ac unit can cool the room and the tent will protect it from any negative air pressure.
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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: eatyualive]
#26361950 - 12/04/19 10:42 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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eatyualive said: Can you show me a picture of said tent?
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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: BorisTBD]
#26362036 - 12/04/19 11:56 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Most of those dont have MP tape or polyfil in the holes. Sup with that?
As seasons change you will need to add more or less tape/poly, mostly has to do with humidity but heat can be a factor too. There may be a larger fluctuation in temps causing condensation and other fun stuff, but the top left tote looks dry AF, and the one on the right is contaminated with something.
The tote on the right from the tent is experiencing dry conditions too, thats why the caps are cracking at the edge.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23651523
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17332777
I’m also jumping on the bandwagon to say if you can’t dial a tote you wont be able to dial a martha. Those threads should help.

And FYI it really helps to break your post up into smaller blocks of text, easier to read and not get overwhelmed or lose your place, its sorta like the forum equivalent of a run on sentence.
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