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Cultivation in a tent. 😬
    #26357252 - 12/02/19 01:44 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Quick back story.
Started cultivating in a tent due to these reasons: cannot get ambient lighting in my room. Almost completely dark through out the day. (Where I sleep). Lots of constant movement in my home. Lots of dust. Temperatures fluctuate too rapidly. Drops below 70 at times and occasionally hits above 80 and sits for an hour or two. :shocked: I can’t be home at the times needed to mist my substrate. It dries out often and I can’t keep those beads of water on the top layer. I’ve tried poly, micropore tape and all sorts of ways to dial in my monotubs. Except the SGFC method...(might be my solution except I’m under the impression that tubs in a tent do not need to be modified. Some one suggested I try a SGFC. I just don’t understand if it’s necessary when using bulk substrate? Aren’t SGFC for cakes? I am gone 12 hours a day and misting is becoming a problem. On my days off I am misting every 2 hours. I come back and it’s dry on top. This is the case for mono tubs inside and outside the tent. This house fluctuates too much and I feel a tent is the only way to accomplish temp and moisture levels. Even with a humidifier running 24/7, it’s a tiny little thing sprays for 10 sec then shuts off for 10sec. I also have tried two methods for FAE. One being a desk fan on top of tent pushing air in 24/7, also tried putting it on a timer every two hours, with this I could see how much dust was being pumped in. So I then tried my carbon air filter. It’s a smaller unit. Not the big one.

I am now using the carbon air filter to pump air in every two hours. Tiny humidifier running 24/7. I’m above 80% humidity all the time. Here’s the big question, IS MISTING NECESSARY IF THE TUBS ARE OPEN AND THE HUMIDIFIER IS RAINING DOWN ON THEM, BUT THEY STILL LOOK DRY, SHOULD I STILL BE MISTING?
I am still misting every tub from shoeboxes to 15qt and also 66qt tubs. I have one monotubs outside and others inside the tent. So far my best results are from using the tent. This one weekend I was gone for 36 hours. My set up was as follows: 12/12 light cycle, humidifier 24/7 intermittently,  desk fan blowing from inside the tent 24/7. And when I came back the mushies had grown substantially.
I tried duplicating it but that same set up caused my 66qt to stall. Meanwhile a 15qt is thriving with full flushes inside the tent. Genetics? The tub I moved out is now coming in OK, but still not as good as it should be.

So I need some expert advice at this point. I am aware that tents are not the route to be taking. I just feel that I am away at crucial times. And also gone during the day. Which is the hardest times to control temp. It will rain here and then the sun comes out and it’s like super hot outside. I come home to dry substrates and pinsets  in the corners and uncolonized spots and funky smells and extremely fuzzy feet, tiny fruits, then big huge fruits, mushrooms that look like they need time and then BAM! Spores everywhere! All together I know I am doing a decent job. I need help dialing in and understanding the concept of a Martha tent.
Best place to have the fan? Does it need a filter? Should air be pushed in or sucked out? Humidifier all the time? Humidifier Placed on top to rain down or on bottom to build up? Does the tent need a vent? So many more ?.....
Thank you for your time!!!!! I can post pics. Just ask me for which one you would like to see. My setup, big fruit tub, etc.


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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: BorisTBD]
    #26357919 - 12/02/19 08:27 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

This thread was moved from Advanced Mycology.

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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26357925 - 12/02/19 08:28 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

If you're misting every two hours you're doing something wrong. Bulk tubs can go days without misting. Frequently all the way through the first harvest without being touched.


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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26358347 - 12/03/19 04:08 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Ummm. Thanx?
I expected a quick answer or informative link from a moderator/trusted cultivator at the very least.
I now know why new people are so quick to show disrespect towards a response like this. And they still get more help and attention this this thread! SMH!.
Just saying I’m doing something wrong doesn’t help one bit! Especially when I described the details as best I could to prevent people from popping in and saying such arrogant statements.
I know there are a few things i am doing wrong, but did you read my post? Or just looked at it and see “tent” “long text” and give your very expected negative response towards growing in a tent. I type in Martha tek in the search and there is no shortage of you slandering people who are attempting automated grows. Your exaggeration of the maintenance of an automated tent Is funny. As I said in the OP. I need help dialing it in. You really have a personal type grudge against tents
Look dude, I get it, Martha broke your heart. Lol.  Don’t take it out on others who feel a tent is necessary.  Honestly the area I live and the SEASON make it very difficult. I follow your teks btw. Exactly as it says. My house is not your average ambient lighting room temperature scenario. Lots of obstacles as said in the OP.

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bodhisatta said:
I would suggest finding relevant threads not ones that have died years ago. And all the people that posted in it haven't logged in in years. 
Don't bother digging up old dead stuff. Set the search to look for new relevant and/or time tested results prove stuff. Check out my search engine TEK in my links(in my signature)

Ive never seen a martha do as impressive as some tubs. And any martha grows ive seen that were impressive were done by experienced growers. And on top of that they're way less automated.
Worrying about calculating air exchanges is ridiculous unless you're trying to run a farm and grow hundreds of pounds a month.

You can grow a couple pounds a week with 4 tubs on rotation in a corner of a room and all you need to do is mist a couple times thru fruiting. No humidifier to fill and clean. No martha to clean. No condensation and water to wipe up and worry about.

Marthas are really best left for people with more than a few grows under their belt, you'll have a dick of a time trying to dial it in based on what you read about and think mushrooms want rather than dialing it in based on experience. If you aim for 99% humidity most noobs using tents grow a bunch of contamination.

If you design a fruiting chamber based on reading that you need X amount of air exchange and such and such a humidity you're going to have a bad time. Especially if you've also never grown a mushroom before and have no experience to base a design off of 



Not advanced he says? Your the reason I decided to post in this forum. As you said, experienced growers are the only one that have had success. I was attempting to reach out to the advanced community. Thanx for moving it into the Contamination forum, oh I mean the mushroom cultivation forum...and sorry for wasting time in your heavily regulated advanced forum.
Growing in a tent:
lots of variables involved, circumstantial to each cultivators situation, requires experience to pull it off. Etc.
Hmmmm, seems pretty advanced to me.
I respect you bod, I wouldn’t be this far without your contributions.


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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: BorisTBD]
    #26358406 - 12/03/19 05:20 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

You can’t gain experience thru the internet.

You just quoted him saying tents are not for noobs lol

Did you even try anything noob friendly or just assume you had to shoot for more advanced techniques?

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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: san pedro guy]
    #26358417 - 12/03/19 05:32 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I’ve got plenty of fruits my friend. Plenty of tubs inside and out of the tent. Doing all kinds of funky stuff. So far my best results are from using the tent. Do you even read bro? Yet again another arrogant boy  commenting with no help. I am Just trying seeking guidance. How to maximize my flushes with my current scenario. Throw the tent out and I’m left with everything said in the OP. Keep the tent and I’m dealing with everything in the OP!!!!!! Too long for you? Still no questions answered...

I’d also like to add that you CAN gain experience from the internet. By reading.
School Teachers have all the experience that they teach there students.
Does this mean the students will never be successful because of lack of experience?


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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: BorisTBD]
    #26358459 - 12/03/19 06:01 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I did read it, you couldn’t figure out to dial in tubs so you are now trying to dial in a tent, which you already admitted is usually only successful for experienced growers.

Gaining experience from growing is not the same as reading, sorry. :shrug:

Just trying to save you some time since you are kind of all over the place. You will have better success dialing in tubs or shoeboxes by making small changes and notating the effects than you would by trying a completely different growing strategy then asking people on here to figure out your problems when it doesn’t work the first try.

You will always know your own growing conditions better than anyone here no matter how long your posts become.

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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: san pedro guy]
    #26358576 - 12/03/19 07:05 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Just so you know when you read you are gaining experience from others. :shocked: Taking In the trial and errors. That’s experience handed down. How do you think I made my monotubs? By many years of experience? No, I  read a tek  and now have the creators experience, 2nd hand. No time wasted. Then I read another tek about dialing it in, BAM. Fruits my friend without any prior experience. You don’t always need experience to get things done. What say you to that?

Now I’m faced with a new season and a new set of problems. And dialing in the TUB or TENT has been difficult. Hence the reason for the OP! You just popped in and assumed I’m a newb. I have experience guy. Just not much and not experience with how evaporation works. Humidifiers. Etc.
I just learned if u put tap water in these things they throw off a white smoke, and that they help with FAE? So why have a fan in the tent?

These are the things I’m trying to discuss and see what has worked for others In The recent years.
I’m getting tired of reading thru the Martha tek post filled with people just like you. No help. Not even a link to info. Just arrogance! 🤦‍♂️

Honestly I’m just encouraging a decent conversation with those who have experience with tents. :shrug:

You are actually wasting my time by still not answering a single question and instead must  argue with you on topics other than the OP!

So now that I know you have read I can now assume you are not comprehending that I am seeking guidance and not a blueprint on how to fix my problems


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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: BorisTBD] * 1
    #26358588 - 12/03/19 07:12 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

You go to the track with a 200hp honda and you come in last
So next week you try a 1000hp Ferrari
But you couldn't handle 200hp so you crash the Ferrari in the first turn.

This is trying to dial in a grow tent when you're not getting tubs right


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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26358606 - 12/03/19 07:25 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I have dialed in tubs on my first grow with no problems. Weather was just right and substrate hardly dried out. This season is funky. Monotubs are drying out due to factors I don’t understand. Is it really that hard to provide decent feedback?


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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: BorisTBD]
    #26358613 - 12/03/19 07:29 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

It kind of sounds like you're thinking that because your temperature fluctuates it's making it impossible to keep doing tubs but what you don't realize is that hundreds of other people are in the same boat


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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26358622 - 12/03/19 07:37 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Does temperature fluctuating a cause for dry tubs? Or more a air thing?


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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: BorisTBD]
    #26358640 - 12/03/19 07:52 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I guess you have a different definition of experience.

I’m arrogant? Hahahaha

You’re the one upset his post was moved from the advanced forum because you are asking noob questions.

Good luck with your name calling and shit talking to the people trying to help you bud.

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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: san pedro guy]
    #26358644 - 12/03/19 07:55 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Reading is not experience...:smoker:


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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: BorisTBD]
    #26358646 - 12/03/19 07:57 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

heat and humidify the tent to a normal level and use the tubs as they're supposed to be used with the lids on the way the tek you're following describes...then you have a place in your house that has consistent humidity and temperature and you can dial in the tubs easier and have results you can consistently replicate.


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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: trubblesome]
    #26358675 - 12/03/19 08:21 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Holy salt, what’s with all the bitching? Calm your tits, tuts.

A tub basically acts as a miniature tent. Tents keep conditions stable, but so do tubs. Tents take a lot of tinkering and dialing in...but so does a no-maintenance monotub. If you can make one work, the other shouldn’t be a challenge. But you can’t, so stop being so salty 🤷🏻‍♂️


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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: feldman114]
    #26358713 - 12/03/19 08:52 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

For what it's worth, I live in Alaska in an unfinished house, and my temps can be 50 when I wake up, and up to 80 when the fire is roaring.  The only non-standard modification I've made is using a mono to fruit cakes (due to the woodstove).  My monos and shoeboxes still require virtually zero upkeep thanks to prepping my sub propperly.  While I agree that tact can fluctuate here in the Cult, it doesn't serve to discount the advice we all come here for.  Bod's analogy was spot on.  Nothing wrong with a tent, but as my conditions illustrate, it's simply not necissary; and isn't helping you dial in your tubs.  No reason to mist that much.  It's contrary to logic.


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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: feldman114]
    #26358720 - 12/03/19 08:59 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I'd try not to be so offended by people not reading every word of your post, it's a fucking wall. After a couple sentences you'll lose most people.

I'm a fairly "experienced grower" and I run 2 Martha's 24/7. My experience can tell you that Martha's are a big PITA but 'mostly' necessary for exotics. It's far easier to fuck up a cubensis grow in a Martha then it is in a tub. Tubs and shoeboxes work like magic, Martha's are a lot of work.


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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: Grimsweeper]
    #26358808 - 12/03/19 10:02 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I’ve got 30 degree temp swings and a normal rh of 16%. But the last week it’s been as high as 77 due to rain.

I only have shoeboxes but as long as the sub is hydrated correctly for your space nothing else seems to affect them. I’d really look into experimenting with how wet you make your substrate, at first I figured if I made it too dry I could just mist more but it’s just not the same.

I can’t say enough about how easy shoeboxes are once you figure out how much moisture they need initially. Then it’s just put the lid on and leave it alone for two weeks.


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Re: Cultivation in a tent. 😬 (moved) [Re: A.k.a]
    #26359055 - 12/03/19 12:55 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I’m only name calling and shit talking to you San Pedro boy. From the moment you stepped in nothing but negativity from you. Saying “hope you get fruits” when OP clearly spelled everything out.

You don’t have to read the WALL people! If it’s too long for your brain then go help those with short attention span.

I posted a wall in attempt to sift thru the arrogant people that pop in just to cause drama. Like the San Pedro boy. He the only one that don’t belong here. Everyone else has been helpful.

Especially these newer post. The exact info I needed. Now I can search through these users post and see what they been thru. And also a better understanding that my temps are not really my problem.
I’m now on to two factors that could be the problem. Instead of many.


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