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How mush is too mush?
    #26355094 - 12/01/19 07:49 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I’ve noticed recently that I have found myself tripping almost every weekend. I’m not sure if I should be bothered by my increased use of mushrooms, but I do wonder where do you draw the line? I’m sure it is  different for everyone.

You see the thing is I’m having a lot of fun in mush land. I find it very nice and relaxing to step out reality for a little while  lol. I know a lot of people say that mushrooms aren’t for recreational uses but I find some of my best experiences are in “lower doses” laughing my ass off for hours on end. What I would consider to be very recreational.
However the laughing is fully therapeutic. 

What are your experiences when it comes to self indulgence on psychs?


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Re: How mush is too mush? [Re: SocalJosh]
    #26355116 - 12/01/19 08:02 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Good question. I do 0.5-1g 1-2 per week which is indeed very recreational. Sometimes I find myself wondering if that will have adverse effects or if this makes me an addict. :shrug:
I watch myself and the people around if I change or how.
In the end we have to be OK with it.


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Re: How mush is too mush? [Re: Shroomei]
    #26355122 - 12/01/19 08:09 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Too much would be where you notice diminished or no effects from nominal doses that would normally provide effects, meaning you've built a tolerance and resistance to the drug. If you're able to maintain the same dosage level and obtain equal effects as you did in the past, then I would personally say there is no such thing as too much.

If you can micro dose daily and obtain the same effects then by all means, have at it. If you can trip balls off 3 gr every weekend then have it, but I generally require 2-4 weeks full resets to retain the magic of the mushroom. At weekly intervals I have to increase dosage for mid to high level trips. I can however micro dose daily with nearly no loss increase in tolerance.


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Re: How mush is too mush? [Re: SocalJosh]
    #26355123 - 12/01/19 08:09 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

First off, I love tripping, good trips, bad trips, difficult trips it’s all growth. About a year ago I discover how to grow the little bastards, so I went from paying $200 an ounce, to all the shrooms I want. And the ones I grow are better then the ones I had to buy. At first I was off the chain. I was tripping every Saturday night. It didn’t take long for the tripping to start interfering with my personal life. The wife wasn’t happy about staying up and then sleeping all day Sunday. On top of that, I developed a tolerance and the trips weren’t as good as they used to be. I cut back to every other weekend and now once a months. The trips are a lot better once a month and the wife is happy too. It boils down to quality vs quantity.


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Re: How mush is too mush? [Re: Antigov]
    #26355156 - 12/01/19 08:42 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks guys
Shroomie: I feel the same way sometimes. Like the exact same lol

In the end I guess it is all personal preference. I don’t suppose anyone has experienced really negative side effects from tripping too often? Other than building up a tolerance?


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Re: How mush is too mush? [Re: SocalJosh]
    #26355668 - 12/01/19 02:22 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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I’ve noticed recently that I have found myself tripping almost every weekend. I’m not sure if I should be bothered by my increased use of mushrooms, but I do wonder where do you draw the line? I’m sure it is  different for everyone.

You see the thing is I’m having a lot of fun in mush land. I find it very nice and relaxing to step out reality for a little while  lol. I know a lot of people say that mushrooms aren’t for recreational uses but I find some of my best experiences are in “lower doses” laughing my ass off for hours on end. What I would consider to be very recreational.
However the laughing is fully therapeutic. 

What are your experiences when it comes to self indulgence on psychs?





I don't think there are any lines, as the mushrooms will easily tell you when you're "indulging" too much.

I've tripped daily (with increased dosage for tolerance) 4-5 days a week, weeks and even months on end, both while researching their effects on reality and while writing intensively. 

It's certainly "allowed", and it was always tons of fun to do. All you're really battling is your own reluctance. :cookiemonster:


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Re: How mush is too mush? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26355898 - 12/01/19 04:40 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Great points PS. I often feel like the only thing holding me back is myself. Isn’t that true for most things tho?


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Re: How mush is too mush? [Re: SocalJosh]
    #26355940 - 12/01/19 05:17 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

The only thing that matters is what matters to you. If you enjoy it and find some benefit then keep doing it. The only thing you have to consider about is how your actions will affect others around you and who will come after you. Does your tripping mean you can't be present for other things that help others? Does it negatively affect your mental state which prevents you from being the best you can for others? I don't know your situation. You can make the decision yourself.


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Re: How mush is too mush? [Re: searching] * 1
    #26356083 - 12/01/19 07:05 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

This is very dependent on yourself. Just because you enjoy doing something doesn't mean you're addicted. You're able to function without taking mushrooms I'm sure... Haha.

Anyway, enjoy yourself dude. We spend countless hours at work, stressing about bills, sitting in traffic.. ect. There's absolutely nothing wrong with taking a few hours out of your day on a weekend to enjoy yourself. A lot of people drink, smoke.. whatever it is.

But mushrooms, are most definitely a different type of release. You may end up dealing with some bullshit you didnt want to think about on that trip.. but end up coming out stronger than when you went in. Also, like you said.. laughing your ass off. That's extremely therapeutic because the laughter on mushrooms is the most organic type of laugh you can ever have. Your soul literally leaves your body from laughter. It's an amazing feeling.

I too, went through this when I started growing my own.. I had more than  I knew what to do with. Was pretty much taking them every weekend. Til I had one extremely difficult trip which was my realization to back the fuck up for a little bit lol.

To each their own man. There's no set rules or obligations to your conciousness. You do whatever YOU enjoy. Everyone's perspective is objective on this matter. You will know when you want a break.. or don't feel like taking them that weekend.

Your mind will make those choices for you. Til then, trip balls.. enjoy yourself. We spend too much time in a controlled manner that it's nice when we have time to get a little weird and drool over ourselves while we laugh at how silly things are that we do every day.

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Re: How mush is too mush? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26356479 - 12/02/19 12:14 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Thank you all for the support and insights.

I personally have not noticed any negative side effects from my consistent usage. I will say that my trips are more hit and miss. Sometimes they can be really spectacular sometimes they can be just ok lol. Every time they are rewarding in some aspect.

Some of my peers have made some remarks about how taking shrooms too often will make you go crazy or other stigma type comments. Have you guys encountered resistance from others?  My wife is fully supportive, although she doesn’t partake. Most of the people who are close to me don’t have anything to remark about my increased usage. I just don’t believe they will make a person “go crazy”
I feel like if someone already has a tendency to not be very well grounded in reality then maybe increased usage isn’t a good idea. As pretty much all of you have said, this is a very subjective experience.

I’ve been playing in the 2-4g range in lemon tek tea. It makes for a powerful but fast trip that I have really become accustomed to. Trip peaks at about the 1.5 hour mark. They finish in about 3-4 hours. I’ve got some PE that really knock me off my rocker. Some GT that are pretty standard potency. Some ovoids that are mild.

Ya and I feel like now that I have a pretty nice stockpile with different types I just want to experiment as much as I can. Every time I go a little deeper it’s that much more rewarding.


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Re: How mush is too mush? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26356484 - 12/02/19 12:16 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Til then, trip balls.. enjoy yourself. We spend too much time in a controlled manner that it's nice when we have time to get a little weird and drool over ourselves while we laugh at how silly things are that we do every day.

:cheers:




🤣🤣 so true


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Re: How mush is too mush? [Re: SocalJosh]
    #26356493 - 12/02/19 12:23 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I'm probably the wrong person to ask, as I discipline myself to only trip every 12 months minimum. I usually go 18 months. I try to save my trips for big breakthroughs and guidance self-check-ins, which appear to be most needed during that time period. That's why I adopted the name Loaded Shaman. I get absolutely blasted from my infrequency, but I use it mostly for personal growth and wisdom gleaning lol.


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Re: How mush is too mush? [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #26356504 - 12/02/19 12:34 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I really like to trip once a week.. but that work out about half of the year.


I don't think tripping often is too much, i only get benefit..  absolutely no negatives.

increase memory, zero depression..  heavy trips once a week is simply good meditation. an 8 hour trip once a week, no alcohol, no fast food.. progressivly increasing dose to keep it strong.


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Re: How mush is too mush? [Re: trippleblack]
    #26356509 - 12/02/19 12:47 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

There you go, to each his own. I rip cannabis constantly so there's that. Perhaps that's my "make up" for not tripping as frequently for myself, lol. As long a the positives outweigh the negatives it's a go for me.


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Re: How mush is too mush? [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #26356596 - 12/02/19 02:52 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

2-4 times a year is plenty. I can't fathom why anyone would want to trip every fortnight.

Excess of anything is counterproductive. :shrug:


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Re: How mush is too mush? [Re: PsychoReactive] * 1
    #26356616 - 12/02/19 03:48 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I've had years I've tripped pretty much every weekend and others I haven't touched it at all. I've tripped maybe 4 or 5 times this year, which is way more than none the year before but way less than the 20 times or so the year before that.

That's the beauty of psychedelics, that they are so self regulating for healthy people. I've seen the odd mushroom and acid casualty. But I reckon those people were probably losing their shit before they ever touched psychs anyway.


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Re: How mush is too mush? [Re: Northerner]
    #26356636 - 12/02/19 04:24 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I used to trip every weekend on mushrooms, and then on acid. Never really interfered with anything other than sleep. Seemed to help me more than antidepressants actually.


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Re: How mush is too mush? [Re: LittleDipster]
    #26356682 - 12/02/19 05:31 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I think big things are coming with mushrooms. A lot of research is being done on showing huge progress for depression... which we've known, but at least it's getting recognized again.

We aren't in the 60s anymore. As people, we evolve. Anyone to shame these clearly haven't tried them.


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Re: How mush is too mush? [Re: SocalJosh]
    #26356707 - 12/02/19 05:52 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe if you have some underlying mental illness youre unaware of is when things can go south from taking them that frequently. But, even then, it's usually that one trip that breaks someone and they're never the same after that. It's actually quite a shame. I've read a lot of articles and have listened to a lot of podcasts about if mushrooms induce it or if the mental illness would have showed itself later on in life. Something we really don't have the answer to right now.. but there was something off in the brain before taking mushroooms.. but mushrooms exposed it to a full degree and then people become full on schizophrenia.

But when we trip.. we pretty much are schizo. We just finally find the end of the tunnel and reach the light. Unfortunately, some people don't. And I believe these are people who have had the mental illness but have not been diagnosed. Mushrooms do not cause it.. but empowered a breakdown due to the experience. Kinda fucked up.. but I think one knows if they should be taking mushrooms or not.. to be honest. At least if you were like myself and did the research prior to my first time ingesting.

But in any healthy person.. I could see mushrooms still making you become "crazy" in a manner. The reason I say this is because, of the constant state of a higher consciousness repetitively every weekend. Mushrooms literally change you as a person. It makes you look at things with a different lens. Your job, your relationships, what you do for fun, your vices.. ect.

The world is seen in a different point of view after an experience.. which makes a lot of us so much different than those who haven't taken them. This is what makes us "crazy", because we now have different view points than those who haven't had an experience.

Mushrooms reveal a lot of secrets to the ones who listen. I've learned a ton and still have tons to learn. But the world I live in now is completely different than from when I have never taken them. I'm not crazy.. I'm just awake.

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Re: How mush is too mush? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26356782 - 12/02/19 07:18 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

this is something that actually makes me want to go back to school and finish up a psych degree so I can work in the forefront of these new therapies. My family struggles heavily from mental illness, my moms brother is Schizo, my moms BPD, I've got BPD, Manic depression, and CIP, for all intensive purposes I'm the poster child of someone who most definitely should not be touching psychedelics. But I surrendered myself to them as I did to god as a child, I trusted in them and they have rewarded me 10 fold. I know the future risk is still there. but I want it to be documented whatever happens to me, good or bad. I think that in a proper setting, with proper guidance, even those with mental issues can benefit greatly. I already was crazy when I started taking them though so maybe that has something to do with it, although if they helped my insanity, who's to say you couldn't use them to bring someone back. The unknowns about these magical substances are truely fascination, and I look forward to seeing the products of scientific studies, I don't think that they're a cure all, but the anecdotal evidence i've seen really doesn't seem to favor anyone in terms of who loses their shit or not. To me, they're miracle drugs, My grandpa was telling me how much more level headed and happy I seem this trip compared to my normal self, and last time he saw me was 2 years ago prior to any of my LSD and PSilocybin experimentation. prior to lsd and shrooms my last trips were on DMT 6 years prior.


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