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DeckardCain
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Re: Space heater more harm than good? [Re: Failboat]
#26368752 - 12/08/19 10:10 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quirkmeister92 said: So if we use a heater and want to humidify the room extra then simply a wet sponge or tub o pwrlite could slowly add moisture right?
Buy a humidifier  When i lived with my dad we had water radiator heating through the house (simular to the electric oil filled heaters were talking about) He would just put a pot of distilled water on it and the warmth would help it evaporate in the room. Just an idea,
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Re: Space heater more harm than good? [Re: DeckardCain]
#26368789 - 12/08/19 10:32 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well I'm not gonna drop money on a humidifier or anything else really unti around February fue to budget constraints. Insurance and Lockn take priority .
Anyway, you made a great case for just using a wet bowl. I have a ceramic digital heater in small space in a tented shelving room in the corner of the garage. Don't really need the extra moisture honestly since I can just adjust my coir prep, but was kinda thinking out loud i suppose.
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Re: Space heater more harm than good? [Re: DeckardCain]
#26368794 - 12/08/19 10:40 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quirkmeister92 said: That doesn't make sense considering the definition of evaporation.
the air that evaporates off and blow out space heater is dryer than whats going in.. i could be using the term incorrectly.. but the basic idea of a space heater drying out the air quicker is factual.
I agree the water cant just disappear from the air, its already evaporated and it certainly isnt condensing from being heated. I don't think it really makes it dryer in the room, hot air holds more moisture than cold air, which is why dehumidifiers use cooling coils to condense water from the air. I'd assume what makes it feel dryer is the fact that the warmer air in the room can now absorb more moisture, like your sinuses eyes and lips making you think its really dry in the room. Just my opinion not factual at all, i still went with an oil heater because theyre more efficient. And why risk making it dryer if it is an actual thing.
edit just read the post above mine, basically the same thing said.
just the process of the fan blowing air across the ceramic heating element/exchanger drops the rh in room more than a oil heater.
moist air don't run across heating elements and evaporate air of the same humidity, it exchange air of higher rh with with dryer air. you can look up any heater buying guide, they even advertise those oil heaters as much better for your health, since they don't dry the air out as much.
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Re: Space heater more harm than good? [Re: trippleblack]
#26368807 - 12/08/19 10:46 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Bod kinda already squahed this debate.
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Re: Space heater more harm than good? [Re: Failboat] 1
#26368882 - 12/08/19 11:39 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quirkmeister92 said: Bod kinda already squahed this debate.
yep he did..
i stand corrected.. it's the fan moving air around more, which dried the tubs out a bit more. sorry for the misinfo
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Re: Space heater more harm than good? [Re: trippleblack]
#26368891 - 12/08/19 11:45 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Convection ovens vs conventional ovens. Same temp one cooks faster. Air flow transfers heat better. Dries out tubs faster using a fan forced heater. But with a given raise in temperature with no added moisture to the system both heaters lower RH the same amount per temperature raise. Buy a warm mist humidifier or put a wet towel sponge etc by your space heater
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Re: Space heater more harm than good? [Re: bodhisatta]
#26368897 - 12/08/19 11:47 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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On a side note, how effective would using a convection over to dehydrate mush be? Obviously I have my dehydrator and would only intend to build a cabinet with spare parts from my defunct units, but I always wondered.
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Re: Space heater more harm than good? [Re: Failboat]
#26368914 - 12/08/19 11:52 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Works well its what i did for my first few grows. You have to trick the oven to think the door is closed tho the fan turns off with the door open
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Re: Space heater more harm than good? [Re: bodhisatta]
#26368917 - 12/08/19 11:53 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Space heater more harm than good? [Re: Failboat]
#26369019 - 12/08/19 12:47 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just check amazon for a temperature control thingy. They are like 50 bucks and u def need one or the space heater will kill your shit. U will also need a basic humidifier to just be running the room the whole time. There are even fancy controllers that do humidity and heat but I wouldnt worry about it. Just having the humidifier going is enough. U need the temperature controller tho. THere are modern ones for 50 bucks.
WARNING:: MAKE SURE IT SUPPORTS YOUR HEATER TYPE OR ULL SET A FIRE. ALSO MAKE SURE YOUR HEATER TURNS ON AUTOMATICALLY WHEN POWER IS APPLIED>
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Re: Space heater more harm than good? [Re: sublimaez] 1
#26369021 - 12/08/19 12:48 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Also do not use an oven to dehydrate. U will kill the quality. Just put a fan on it. Its winter, they will dry.
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Re: Space heater more harm than good? [Re: sublimaez]
#26369043 - 12/08/19 01:00 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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My space heater is digital with automatic shutoff system. Fan drying is bullshit and I was discussing convection oven which blows the heat around, not convnentional ovens. Sublimaez you got some reading to do, seems you're misinformed.
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Re: Space heater more harm than good? [Re: Failboat]
#26369248 - 12/08/19 03:07 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Definitely make sure your heater has a thermostat or use an external one. Many years ago I once had a whole room full of tubs about to harvest and my heater accidentally got left on high overnight. When I woke up and went in to harvest it was 118 degrees F in there and my mushies were blueish black oozing blobs. My entire grow went into the compost pile and I cried like a little kid. Don't do that.
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Re: Space heater more harm than good? [Re: bodhisatta]
#26369437 - 12/08/19 04:46 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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bodhisatta said: or put a wet towel sponge etc by your space heater
when you say 'by your space' do you mean anywhere near or should the fan be blowing heat at the towel/sponge?
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Re: Space heater more harm than good? [Re: Digit]
#27126753 - 01/04/21 05:53 PM (3 years, 24 days ago) |
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I had the same situation as the Digit user, I was very upset when I made such a mistake. So I decided to buy a new heater that will have a timer so that I can set the time when it should turn off. I couldn't choose for a long time, but I found reviews here https://buyersimpact.co.uk/ which helped me make my choice. I really liked the Taotronics tt-he001 heater because its price was low. What kind of heaters do you use?
Edited by JohnEstacado (01/10/21 06:38 PM)
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Re: Space heater more harm than good? [Re: JohnEstacado] 1
#27126765 - 01/04/21 05:57 PM (3 years, 24 days ago) |
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Ambient temps of the room are what's important. heat the room not the tub. 70-73f is perfect for cubes, space heater does not matter as long as it keeps the grow area warm and its not directed at your myc. Otherwise don't trip, unless you've eaten mushrooms, then enjoy.
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