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narmaduke
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Space heater more harm than good?
#26356367 - 12/01/19 10:07 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I bought a space heater because my place gets cold, especially at night (day time ~65F and at night closer to 50). My jars and agar dishes have been colonizing pretty slowly and I am assuming the cold temperature is why. Is using a space heater to bring up the temps to mid 70s going to negatively affect a my grow? Ive read RH isnt a huge deal for jars but I guess I am more concerned about when I go to fruit and having my tubs dry out, is there anything I could do to keep RH up while running said space heater?
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Re: Space heater more harm than good? [Re: narmaduke]
#26356385 - 12/01/19 10:25 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just mist if your shit looks dry. And don’t point the heater near your setup, point it in a different direction and just keep an eye on your overall temperature and you should be fine. You planning on a monotub or what? As long as your tub is set up right you shouldn’t have to worry about humidity.
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Re: Space heater more harm than good? [Re: narmaduke]
#26356413 - 12/01/19 10:49 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Cybin_man said: Just mist if your shit looks dry. And don’t point the heater near your setup, point it in a different direction and just keep an eye on your overall temperature and you should be fine. You planning on a monotub or what? As long as your tub is set up right you shouldn’t have to worry about humidity.
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narmaduke said: I bought a space heater because my place gets cold, especially at night (day time ~65F and at night closer to 50). My jars and agar dishes have been colonizing pretty slowly and I am assuming the cold temperature is why. Is using a space heater to bring up the temps to mid 70s going to negatively affect a my grow? Ive read RH isnt a huge deal for jars but I guess I am more concerned about when I go to fruit and having my tubs dry out, is there anything I could do to keep RH up while running said space heater?
Damn son, your gonna use a space heater to bring the temp up 20 some degrees in one room for 2-3 months?
That's gonna be expensive as fuk! Why not just be more comfortable in your house and set the thermostat to 70?
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A space heater isn't that expensive if you dont have a huge room and perhaps take extra steps to contain the heat. I use one in my garage grow area which is plastic wrapped around shelves like a tent/greenhouse type room. The unit barely has to run when set up properly. Helps when the cars pull in with hot engines of course, but just be smart about it.
Set it so you maintain ~72°F. Mine is set to 67°F but thats the lowest the temp in the whole space gets, if even. When it kicks on my thermometer reads like 78°F.
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Re: Space heater more harm than good? [Re: Failboat]
#26356430 - 12/01/19 11:03 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Cybin_man said: Just mist if your shit looks dry. And don’t point the heater near your setup, point it in a different direction and just keep an eye on your overall temperature and you should be fine. You planning on a monotub or what? As long as your tub is set up right you shouldn’t have to worry about humidity.
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narmaduke said: I bought a space heater because my place gets cold, especially at night (day time ~65F and at night closer to 50). My jars and agar dishes have been colonizing pretty slowly and I am assuming the cold temperature is why. Is using a space heater to bring up the temps to mid 70s going to negatively affect a my grow? Ive read RH isnt a huge deal for jars but I guess I am more concerned about when I go to fruit and having my tubs dry out, is there anything I could do to keep RH up while running said space heater?
Damn son, your gonna use a space heater to bring the temp up 20 some degrees in one room for 2-3 months?
That's gonna be expensive as fuk! Why not just be more comfortable in your house and set the thermostat to 70?
The heater in this place sucks. I basically live in a house that has been converted into multiple different units so its not central heating. But electricity is not a problem because all our utilities are included in rent plus our place has solar panels
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Quirkmeister92 said: A space heater isn't that expensive if you dont have a huge room and perhaps take extra steps to contain the heat. I use one in my garage grow area which is plastic wrapped around shelves like a tent/greenhouse type room. The unit barely has to run when set up properly. Helps when the cars pull in with hot engines of course, but just be smart about it.
Set it so you maintain ~72°F. Mine is set to 67°F but thats the lowest the temp in the whole space gets, if even. When it kicks on my thermometer reads like 78°F.
Yeah I do not plan to run it 24/7, just as needed. So you don't have any problems with dry air running yours?
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Re: Space heater more harm than good? [Re: narmaduke]
#26356439 - 12/01/19 11:14 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nah thats what the tubs are for. Moisture doesn't really squeeze out a closed tub too easily. Healthy spawn and properly hydrated coir is all you gotta worry about. Not too wet, and not too dry. I do like the drier coir prep then a thin top layer at spawning with a healthy misting before closing the lid until harvest. Check out shaperdreamings coir prep for the misting tek and bods hydration ratio is great. Follow his ratio by weight then mist like she does and leave it be.
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Re: Space heater more harm than good? [Re: Failboat]
#26356462 - 12/01/19 11:43 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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space heater dry shit up..
I suggest a oil burner/heater.. It does not destory the relative humidity as much..
if you want to really boss up, get a cool mist humidifier, put it on a timer. the enhanced evaporation rate you get with the cool mist cycling off then off while the heater is on may give you incredible results you would otherwise miss out on, like bigger yields.
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Re: Space heater more harm than good? [Re: trippleblack]
#26368455 - 12/08/19 07:37 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Space heater more harm than good? [Re: Madcapper144]
#26368556 - 12/08/19 08:42 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yep, thats exactly like the one i use.
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Re: Space heater more harm than good? [Re: trippleblack]
#26368579 - 12/08/19 08:50 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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trippleblack said: Yep, thats exactly like the one i use.
How bigs your space out of curiosity?
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Re: Space heater more harm than good? [Re: Madcapper144]
#26368584 - 12/08/19 08:53 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Why would oil radiators not fuck the RH as much as ceramic element heaters? I know oul is more efficient.
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Re: Space heater more harm than good? [Re: Madcapper144] 1
#26368596 - 12/08/19 08:58 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quirkmeister92 said: Why would oil radiators not fuck the RH as much as ceramic element heaters? I know oul is more efficient.
because it's not pulling humid air through it's heating element and blowing it out.. that process pull in moist air and blow out dry air.
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trippleblack said: Yep, thats exactly like the one i use.
How bigs your space out of curiosity?
about 20 x 20.. i also have a quartz infrared Radiant Heater on temp controll. need a couple in the winter months for my setup.
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Re: Space heater more harm than good? [Re: trippleblack]
#26368602 - 12/08/19 09:03 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Makes sense, though that may be the case, but there where does the moisture go? There's no reservoir pool. Seems like its in then back out.
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Re: Space heater more harm than good? [Re: Failboat]
#26368618 - 12/08/19 09:10 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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It evaporates into dry air while crossing over the ceramic heat exchange element i assume..
infrared and especially oil heaters are advertised commercially as better than ceramic space heaters because they don't dry out the air as much.
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Re: Space heater more harm than good? [Re: trippleblack]
#26368639 - 12/08/19 09:23 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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That doesn't make sense considering the definition of evaporation.
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Re: Space heater more harm than good? [Re: trippleblack]
#26368642 - 12/08/19 09:25 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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trippleblack said: space heater dry shit up..
I suggest a oil burner/heater.. It does not destory the relative humidity as much..
if you want to really boss up, get a cool mist humidifier, put it on a timer. the enhanced evaporation rate you get with the cool mist cycling off then off while the heater is on may give you incredible results you would otherwise miss out on, like bigger yields.
Any with fan dry out the area bad
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Re: Space heater more harm than good? [Re: Failboat]
#26368653 - 12/08/19 09:32 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quirkmeister92 said: That doesn't make sense considering the definition of evaporation.
the air that evaporates off and blow out space heater is dryer than whats going in.. i could be using the term incorrectly.. but the basic idea of a space heater drying out the air quicker is factual.
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Re: Space heater more harm than good? [Re: trippleblack] 2
#26368701 - 12/08/19 09:50 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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trippleblack said: It evaporates into dry air while crossing over the ceramic heat exchange element i assume..
infrared and especially oil heaters are advertised commercially as better than ceramic space heaters because they don't dry out the air as much.
The humidity in air is already "evaporated"
The humidity lowers when air heats up because hot air can hold more water. That's why its relative humidity. If air is 100% RH and you raise the temperature the RH will lower.
A forced air heater tends to dry out tubs faster because of the air movement not because of the humidity drop.
Both a radiator or forced air heater will lower RH the same per given temperature rise. Its not like a forced air heater destroys water molecules and the radiator doesn't.
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Re: Space heater more harm than good? [Re: trippleblack]
#26368714 - 12/08/19 09:57 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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trippleblack said:
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Quirkmeister92 said: That doesn't make sense considering the definition of evaporation.
the air that evaporates off and blow out space heater is dryer than whats going in.. i could be using the term incorrectly.. but the basic idea of a space heater drying out the air quicker is factual.
I agree the water cant just disappear from the air, its already evaporated and it certainly isnt condensing from being heated. I don't think it really makes it dryer in the room, hot air holds more moisture than cold air, which is why dehumidifiers use cooling coils to condense water from the air. I'd assume what makes it feel dryer is the fact that the warmer air in the room can now absorb more moisture, like your sinuses eyes and lips making you think its really dry in the room. Just my opinion not factual at all, i still went with an oil heater because theyre more efficient. And why risk making it dryer if it is an actual thing.
edit just read the post above mine, basically the same thing said.
Edited by DeckardCain (12/08/19 09:57 AM)
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Re: Space heater more harm than good? [Re: DeckardCain]
#26368723 - 12/08/19 10:00 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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So if we use a heater and want to humidify the room extra then simply a wet sponge or tub o pwrlite could slowly add moisture right?
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