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Re: Stupid 19 yr old took 3 family fluffs (Seattle 2009) [Re: superwhitedolemite]
    #26355386 - 12/01/19 11:13 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

i'm aware this type of stuff happens, but the stories of people thinking they're a glass of orange juice about to tip over or see rainbows from lightbulbs is fearmongering BS, If these things happened as regularly as they're reported noone would be touching psychs including me. There's plenty that can go wrong tripping, psychosis can result from just about any drug. However a very bold statement was made, and I personally think that he should back it up with some scientific studies if it's so absolute.


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Re: Stupid 19 yr old took 3 family fluffs (Seattle 2009) [Re: zios]
    #26355431 - 12/01/19 11:45 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

"I've personally taken very large doses of LSD and for a long period of my early adult life, I wasn't OK for a long time. Not completely fucked, but experienced years of PTSD-like symptoms from one very traumatic experience. Bouts of irrational fear. Panic attacks. Paranoia. Time and patience healed it. It ended up being the most important event in my life, as far as personal development."

Remember when i said.....
"If YOU are not mentally strong enough to handle it, YOU will go crazy"

I think it has more to do with the individual than the drug itself.

With that said a bad trip on acid lasting 10 hours can be VERY VERY traumatizing

Psyches might bring some things to the surface that you arent ready to confront.....


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Re: Stupid 19 yr old took 3 family fluffs (Seattle 2009) [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
    #26355436 - 12/01/19 11:49 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Think about it though..... Back in the 60s... there were 1000ug doses floating around.....

People ABSOLUTELY WERE freaking out and ending up in the psycheward

Imagine if i was 19 in 1965 and ate 3 1000 ug.....

Im not going to lie, in probably be on a funny farm right now.


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Re: Stupid 19 yr old took 3 family fluffs (Seattle 2009) [Re: superwhitedolemite]
    #26355438 - 12/01/19 11:50 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Thats what happened to me 2 <3


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Re: Stupid 19 yr old took 3 family fluffs (Seattle 2009) [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
    #26355576 - 12/01/19 01:28 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

The vast majority of mentally ill people have never done psychedelics.


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Re: Stupid 19 yr old took 3 family fluffs (Seattle 2009) [Re: InfiniteDreams]
    #26355590 - 12/01/19 01:37 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I agree.
But you could say that everyone has some kind of mental illness to some degree..
be it depression, anxiety, ocd, substance abuse..... etc etc...

Even people who seem "Normal"


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Re: Stupid 19 yr old took 3 family fluffs (Seattle 2009) [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
    #26355635 - 12/01/19 02:01 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Buckomcdoogle said:
Think about it though..... Back in the 60s... there were 1000ug doses floating around.....







I highly highly doubt that.






Quote:

Buckomcdoogle said:


Anyone who tells you LSD doesnt cause brain damage is full of shit.







LSD absolutely DOES NOT cause brain damage :rolleyes: .

Why do you believe LSD causes brain damage?...And by what mechanism do you believe it does so?


LSD has actually be found to cause the total opposite of "brain damage"....LSD has been found to promote neurogenesis and neuroplasticity, basically promoting the growth of new cells and creating new connections and helping a brain to restructure itself.






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Re: Stupid 19 yr old took 3 family fluffs (Seattle 2009) [Re: openmind]
    #26355697 - 12/01/19 02:32 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

You dont think so?

Before 65 if you were a chemistry major you could learn how to make it at university....

Thats how most of the LSD gurus learned.

Lord knows how much youd dose yourself with licking those early sugar cubes....


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Re: Stupid 19 yr old took 3 family fluffs (Seattle 2009) [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
    #26355707 - 12/01/19 02:36 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)







    Quote:
    Buckomcdoogle said:


    Anyone who tells you LSD doesnt cause brain damage is full of shit.






"LSD absolutely DOES NOT cause brain damage :rolleyes: .

Why do you believe LSD causes brain damage?...And by what mechanism do you believe it does so?


LSD has actually be found to cause the total opposite of "brain damage"....LSD has been found to promote neurogenesis and neuroplasticity, basically promoting the growth of new cells and creating new connections and helping a brain to restructure itself."




But its like I was saying earlier in the thread, I think it has more to do with the individual that anything else.

Are YOU mentally strong enough to handle it?????

DO you have some kind of predisposed issues that might become really bad if you have an overly intense experience?

I had never had a panic attack until doing LSD


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"Nihilism is the most basic truth in existence,
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"Logic leads to nihilism"



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Re: Stupid 19 yr old took 3 family fluffs (Seattle 2009) [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
    #26355746 - 12/01/19 03:06 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Man taking a lot of acid is a waste I think, since a little bit does a lot


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Re: Stupid 19 yr old took 3 family fluffs (Seattle 2009) [Re: FungiMaster]
    #26356117 - 12/01/19 07:21 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

yeah but when you can buy $50 worth of acid and meet god, it seems like a bargain lmfao I personally have the most fun on 1-3 tabs, but when I take 500ug+ it really gives me an out of body experience.


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Re: Stupid 19 yr old took 3 family fluffs (Seattle 2009) [Re: 330ci]
    #26356136 - 12/01/19 07:32 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Hell yeah man, if you have a decent source and use it responsibly.

Its really more of a labor of love than anything else, kind of like with good traditional hashish.

Anyone who makes L could make MDMA or METH considerably easier and make way more money.

I am a believer that if you really want to "meet god" eat some tryptamines in a beautiful natural environment.

I quit a very toxic job at the end of the summer, feeling really depressed and worn down, I spent a week eating mushrooms down by the river and playing guitar.
After that
I felt like a new man <3


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Re: Stupid 19 yr old took 3 family fluffs (Seattle 2009) [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
    #26356142 - 12/01/19 07:35 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

It might be some really hippie dippie shit, but much like
Mr William Pickard

I really do think that when something like that is created, there is a karma with it.

Was this produced with bad/selfish intentions?

Or was it produced to share beautiful experiences with the world..


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Re: Stupid 19 yr old took 3 family fluffs (Seattle 2009) [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
    #26356291 - 12/01/19 09:25 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Meth and MDMA might be easier to make but it's a completely different market. LSD is definitely a niche, but gaining in popularity again, and it's extremely cheap to make as well as long as you have steady supply to ingredients which ergotamine seems to be in abundance in belgium. there's a handful of people supplying the whole world with LSD, how many meth labs are discovered in the US alone every year? I'd imagine LSD is just as lucrative, and I personally wouldn't feel like a piece of shit dealing it. couldn't say the same for meth and mdma


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Re: Stupid 19 yr old took 3 family fluffs (Seattle 2009) [Re: 330ci]
    #26356346 - 12/01/19 09:55 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I was always of the belief that the precursors for LSD were heavily watched and regulated by the dea.

Im sure the lab equipment alone costs a small fortune.

Not to mention, You might end up like (One of my heroes)
Who is serving consecutive life sentences.......
(I WISH I COULD POST A PICTURE OF HIM HERE)

Cause in the eyes of the government....

"Selling a highly dangerous adulterated substance (NBOMES n shit)
to an 8 year old
Is the same as selling a highly pure very safe substance to a grown man..............................................................."
----x HEAD OF THE DEA.........

Every serious tripper/hippie should know MR. pickard, he was a hero and a martyr for what he believed in <3

If I ever have the ability to do so, I would love to go visit him...
They say Pickards doses are still floating around out there.... and he was busted in 2000...


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"Nihilism is the most basic truth in existence,
the only consistency throughout the world, and the universe is
chaos and decay"
"Logic leads to nihilism"



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Re: Stupid 19 yr old took 3 family fluffs (Seattle 2009) [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
    #26356679 - 12/02/19 05:27 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

precursurs for any drug are, the difference between LSD and Meth is that you can buy precursors for Meth just about anywhere. Ergotamine, not so much. but DEA is the USA, once you get outside our borders, the world becomes your oyster. people are either smuggling in precursor to avoid detection or just shipping lsd over from europe at this point. Alot of people who study organic chemistry synthesize LSD as a sort of right of passage. Lab equipment can be had cheap as fuck if you know where to look though. I bought $50k retail worth of random pieces of scientific tubing for less than $500 and was stoked as hell when I got roughly $.05-10 cents on the dollar for it and it was all brand new still. even at retail I can't imagine it costing more than a few thousand to build a decent set up, production costs for lab equipment has gone down since the 60's if anything and people were supplying the nation out of labs set up in closets back then


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Re: Stupid 19 yr old took 3 family fluffs (Seattle 2009) [Re: 330ci]
    #26356730 - 12/02/19 06:15 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Damn man. Sounds like a fucking dummy mission to be honest. But we've all made mistakes and I feel like we learn the most from the hardest ones. At least, leave a dent that we can appreciate.

This is the last time I took mushrooms: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26248225

Give it a read if you like. But I too state, the thing I learned most from that trip is how much I enjoy being sane. I feel like we take a normal functioning brain for granted. I agree with this completely. That's where it hit home for me is when I read that last part. Couldn't agree more.


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Re: Stupid 19 yr old took 3 family fluffs (Seattle 2009) [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
    #26357280 - 12/02/19 02:05 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Buckomcdoogle said:
You dont think so?

Before 65 if you were a chemistry major you could learn how to make it at university....

Thats how most of the LSD gurus learned.

Lord knows how much youd dose yourself with licking those early sugar cubes....






OK...But none of that has anything to do with 1000mcg doses :shrug: .

No doubt there were some potent doses going around back then and in general doses were more potent then than they are today, but I highly doubt 1mg doses were going around.

I forget where I saw some of the #s from some of the stuff that was tested and going around back in the 60s/70s....but IIRC, most doses back then were around 150mcg to 250mcg....And IIRC the classic "orange sunshine", which was known for standing out as potent doses back in the day, was around 300mcg.







Quote:

Buckomcdoogle said:


Quote:

"LSD absolutely DOES NOT cause brain damage :rolleyes: .

Why do you believe LSD causes brain damage?...And by what mechanism do you believe it does so?


LSD has actually be found to cause the total opposite of "brain damage"....LSD has been found to promote neurogenesis and neuroplasticity, basically promoting the growth of new cells and creating new connections and helping a brain to restructure itself."






But its like I was saying earlier in the thread, I think it has more to do with the individual that anything else.

Are YOU mentally strong enough to handle it?????

DO you have some kind of predisposed issues that might become really bad if you have an overly intense experience?

I had never had a panic attack until doing LSD





If LSD caused brain damage then it would do it to everyone, it would not "depend on the individual".

Having a panic attack doesn't relate to brain damage in anyway. Just because you had a panic attack while on LSD or after taking LSD that doesn't mean the LSD caused brain damage :rolleyes:  .

Being "mentally strong enough" has nothing to do with whether a drug is causing brain damage or not...

...none of that relates to or has anything to do with LSD causing brain damage. :shrug:








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Re: Stupid 19 yr old took 3 family fluffs (Seattle 2009) [Re: openmind]
    #26357740 - 12/02/19 06:53 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Ive heard of people saying it opens up pathways in your brain that werent there before.

You seem pretty experienced.

In all of you time taking LSD and psyches you never had ANY lasting visuals????

HPPD certainly is not a myth....
Theres been way too many people ive read up on, (HERE AND ON BL)
That have talked about it happening to them

I remember for weeks after that it seemed like I was kind of still seeing visuals when lying in bed at night..


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Re: Stupid 19 yr old took 3 family fluffs (Seattle 2009) [Re: superwhitedolemite]
    #26358320 - 12/03/19 03:23 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Excuse me but exactly what were the dosages you took? My highest has been 600 ug but that wasn't the bad trip it was after i left my tolerance go down and i dropped a single tab (300 ug) is when it fucked me over


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