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Guys, I'm having a sober bad trip right now. * 1
    #26355003 - 12/01/19 05:53 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Guys, online I made an online friend very happy.  She got free money (XLM https://keybase.io/a/i/r/d/r/o/p/spacedrop2019 ) she got answers to that the universe is Sentient (Chris Langan theory) and that she is Eternal even if Putin exploded a nuke on her right now ans Gods punishment for spoonfeeding her baby Zyklon B  straight from the can because God is a Giver, Lover and Forgiver.

But then she nuked me harder.

She basically told me that she is suicidal and thanked me for giving her the answers she needed, and went offline.

So will she go to church and pray or go to the gun store for the largest caliber handgun and 1 bullet?

I'm SCARED guys.

And I can take another Valium but I rather have a talkdown from you guys.

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Re: Guys, I'm having a sober bad trip right now. [Re: Asante]
    #26355005 - 12/01/19 05:56 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)




I know the Universe wont let her do anything It doesnt approve of but FUCK.

I saved a few here on the Shroomery but I may have killed someone with kindness, in RL.


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Re: Guys, I'm having a sober bad trip right now. [Re: Asante] * 3
    #26355007 - 12/01/19 05:59 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Who cares its not like you could do anything about some crazy broad over the internet. Why would she want money if she was gonna kill herself? Sounds nuts why would u give a fuck?


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Re: Guys, I'm having a sober bad trip right now. [Re: Asante]
    #26355008 - 12/01/19 05:59 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Me with my load of german blood and myb smidgeon of African blood (DNA test) has marched her off to whatever is her destiny.





Its scary even though I know the Universe has my ass, and her ass.


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Re: Guys, I'm having a sober bad trip right now. [Re: Asante] * 5
    #26355009 - 12/01/19 06:01 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

What bro you didnt March her off into anything that not how it works that's not how any of this works.


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Re: Guys, I'm having a sober bad trip right now. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26355010 - 12/01/19 06:01 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Who cares its not like you could do anything about some crazy broad over the internet. Why would she want money if she was gonna kill herself? Sounds nuts why would u give a fuck?





Shes very sweet so I DJ'd for her and she loved it.

But I didnt know she was suicidal.

And I been going on and on about how literally everything is OK :uhoh:

She wants to be with God because she suffers so much.

See what I'm saying?


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Re: Guys, I'm having a sober bad trip right now. [Re: Asante]
    #26355011 - 12/01/19 06:01 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

You explain me how it works!


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Re: Guys, I'm having a sober bad trip right now. [Re: Asante] * 2
    #26355012 - 12/01/19 06:04 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Your intentions always seem pure, but you cannot expect that everyone uses the knowledge and information you share in a way that is beneficial for all, some, or even themselves.  I'm assuming you don't know this person offline so there may be nothing to do for her if she broke contact with you.

Don't sweat it too much, keep on truckin'


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Re: Guys, I'm having a sober bad trip right now. [Re: Asante]
    #26355014 - 12/01/19 06:06 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I can solve my anxiety with flubromazolam or haldol, so its a luxury problem, but try help me calm the fuck down please. I fully cooperate.

If it takes a :bitchslap:  then :bitchslap:  me and no mod will ban you for it.


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Re: Guys, I'm having a sober bad trip right now. [Re: Asante] * 2
    #26355015 - 12/01/19 06:06 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Like I said that's not up to you at all. I thought you were a proponent of physician assisted euthanasia. It's her decision at this point theres nothing you can do and you didnt know she was suicidal before so I'm not sure why you care at all. For all you know it could just be some preteen kid board at school trolling or something.


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Re: Guys, I'm having a sober bad trip right now. [Re: MorphinTime]
    #26355016 - 12/01/19 06:09 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Your intentions always seem pure, but you cannot expect that everyone uses the knowledge and information you share in a way that is beneficial for all, some, or even themselves.  I'm assuming you don't know this person offline so there may be nothing to do for her if she broke contact with you.

Don't sweat it too much, keep on truckin'





Thank you *hugs* Ultimately her life is her trip and if she wants euthanasia, like my mom had euthanasia, then that is what is right, no matter how she does it.





Lets hope that IF she does it, she does it in a way tats either 100% effect or causes 0% damage to her.


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Re: Guys, I'm having a sober bad trip right now. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26355017 - 12/01/19 06:12 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I'm not sure why you care at all.





Its an online friend who is a delight to be with but who feels like shit herself, it turns out.

The world would be worse off if she offed herself, but like you guys say, thats up to her, not me.


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Re: Guys, I'm having a sober bad trip right now. [Re: Asante]
    #26355019 - 12/01/19 06:13 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

She did buy a second hand chair though the other day so my guess is she wants to sit on it.


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Re: Guys, I'm having a sober bad trip right now. [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26355020 - 12/01/19 06:14 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Beth Hart and Joe Bonamassa



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Re: Guys, I'm having a sober bad trip right now. [Re: Asante]
    #26355021 - 12/01/19 06:17 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

A girl's gotta do what a girl's gotta do but.. maybe IF she wants to do it, she wont want to guilt trip me cause she's super social, like me.


I still feel like a bit of a devil though, with my super persuasive preaching.




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Re: Guys, I'm having a sober bad trip right now. [Re: MorphinTime]
    #26355024 - 12/01/19 06:26 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Beth Hart and Joe Bonamassa







Ike and Tina when Good was still Good between them:






I'm out of the shit and you guys helped talk me down.


THE UNIVERSE decides whether she lives or dies today.

THE UNIVERSE made me DJ to her

THE UNIVERSE gave her the answers she needed for the best outcome.

And she needs to at least figure out what I said before pulling the trigger

So my DJ set was a gobstopper for her.

Figure this out first.

And I gave het dozens of reasons she believes in to keep on trucking, I think.





And I get to cheer her up when she comes back online to either kick my ass or thank me.



Thanks guys, you are as persuasive as Flubromazolam.




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Re: Guys, I'm having a sober bad trip right now. [Re: Asante] * 2
    #26355027 - 12/01/19 06:31 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

If you truly believe she is eternal, then what's the problem?


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Re: Guys, I'm having a sober bad trip right now. [Re: Asante]
    #26355028 - 12/01/19 06:33 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I'll go lie down on my memory foam matress now and meditate on Lakshmi , Goddess of 8-fold Abundance now, without any drugs or extra meds at all, to calm dow further.




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Re: Guys, I'm having a sober bad trip right now. [Re: flugelizor] * 2
    #26355032 - 12/01/19 06:39 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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If you truly believe she is eternal, then what's the problem?





Exactly.


its out of my hands, its up to the universe.

A Shroomerite once told us that he bought a factory round, put it in his handgun, aimed it at his face, pulled the trigger and -CLICK- 

Dont gamble on the Universe PLEASE guys but when the Universe says :no: its :no:


Take a chance on the Universe only in funny harmless modest ways, cause it did promise that you mau do that, and that you will reap exactly what you sow.

So please guys, dose it right next time you dose.






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Re: Guys, I'm having a sober bad trip right now. [Re: Asante]
    #26355080 - 12/01/19 07:37 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I can solve my anxiety with flubromazolam or haldol, so its a luxury problem, but try help me calm the fuck down please. I fully cooperate.

If it takes a :bitchslap:  then :bitchslap:  me and no mod will ban you for it.




Real life friend, old school friend or online friend is not a true friend if they are going to talk about suicide then leave you hanging in limbo. How do you know if she is serious, or if this is all a cruel joke. It’s not right to leave you hanging. If it’s going to happen it’s going to happen and there ain’t a damn thing that you can do about it. I hate to sound cold, but I have had narcissists in my life who used to threaten suicide to keep me and other family members in line. My ex wife was one of them. When we finally split and she threatened to kill herself I told her to do what’s she feels is necessary to resolve her situation. 8 years later she is still breathing.


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Re: Guys, I'm having a sober bad trip right now. [Re: Asante]
    #26355084 - 12/01/19 07:40 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Damn Asante, sounds really stressful. I cant imagine feeling responsible for someone's suicide directly. Sorry u have to go thru that :sad:

Ive heard from psychic medium Tyler Henry that people who commit suicide are "heavily punished" in the Afterlife. Perhaps that could help her not do the act? Or perhaps time has run out.....

Stay sane Asante. Stay Sane :peace: :heart: :hug:


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Re: Guys, I'm having a sober bad trip right now. [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26355718 - 12/01/19 02:46 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Bummer man


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Re: Guys, I'm having a sober bad trip right now. [Re: Asante]
    #26355964 - 12/01/19 05:35 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

i'm not worried anymore. Whatever she'll do is better informed or less ill advised, than before I dropped the hapy bomb on her. Of that I am convinced so I let the universe do its thing and I do mine when she returns.


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Re: Guys, I'm having a sober bad trip right now. [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26355968 - 12/01/19 05:42 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Guys, I'm having a sober bad trip right now. [Re: dreamachine] * 1
    #26355993 - 12/01/19 05:52 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

valium is jail stuff... at least in the form that way given to lower the intensity.


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Re: Guys, I'm having a sober bad trip right now. [Re: JBaker] * 1
    #26356013 - 12/01/19 06:06 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

smoke sativa

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    #26356212 - 12/01/19 08:26 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Bad trip take an anxiety pill


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Re: Guys, I'm having a sober bad trip right now. [Re: Asante] * 2
    #26356215 - 12/01/19 08:29 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Sending love asante


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Re: Guys, I'm having a sober bad trip right now. [Re: 28064212] * 2
    #26356258 - 12/01/19 08:54 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Is there anyway you can get ahold of her or physically be there with her? Dont stop trying man, if she really is your friend then you need to protect her even of it is from herself. Godspeed :heart:


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Re: Guys, I'm having a sober bad trip right now. [Re: Asante] * 2
    #26356452 - 12/01/19 11:32 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Me with my load of german blood and myb smidgeon of African blood (DNA test)



Just your everyday friendly neighborhood reminder that every single person on the planet has sub-Saharan African DNA with the exception of non-sub-Saharan Africans.


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Re: Guys, I'm having a sober bad trip right now. [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26356507 - 12/02/19 12:46 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

she's fine, she's just being dramatic.. and its making you feel something for her.  that's exactly what she wants.


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Re: Guys, I'm having a sober bad trip right now. [Re: split_by_nine] * 4
    #26356519 - 12/02/19 12:57 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

i don't think any one can really say what she is or isn't doing, if you don't actually know her. And even then, its hard to say for sure

people that say they are going to kill themselves, often do, even when they have threatened to do so many times in the past.

sure its a fairly common threat that people don't follow through on, but its also common that people have to kind of work up to actually doing it... they will over time become warmed up to the idea and desensitized to any reason not to do it, until eventually they accept its time to go through with it

Asante made a post in recent past about those being tortured screaming or not to express the pain being experienced. Well sometimes people that often talk about suicide are doing so because they need to express the pain they are feeling every day, because it is a kind of release just to say it.

i think that saying people are condemned to hell or anything similar for suicide is stupid also. if someone is suffering in this life so much that they decide to end it, then that's their choice & saying they are damned to a hellish afterlife because of their suffering seems about as bad as saying anyone not accepting jesus is condemned to hell.

i've had friends that killed themselves, and i don't think bad of them for doing so. i do feel great sympathy for what they must have felt to go to that length though.

people say a lot of BS about suicide such as it being cowardly and all that... i don't find killing yourself and ending your life to be very cowardly. Seems like most of the negative things people have to say about suicide are just a way for them to reflect their own hurt off of themselves.

i don't view suicide is a good thing and its terrible what it does to friends/family, but the things people say about those who kill themselves seem equally as terrible & disrespectful to me.


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Re: Guys, I'm having a sober bad trip right now. [Re: pixelpopper]
    #26356529 - 12/02/19 01:05 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

If there is even. 0.00000001% chance she is not lying then you should try to be by her side. That is just my opinion. I wish you guys nothing but the best :shroomeryhead:


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Re: Guys, I'm having a sober bad trip right now. [Re: pixelpopper]
    #26356559 - 12/02/19 01:37 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I agree with these sentiments entirely.

The part where "people that say they are going to kill themselves, often do, even when they have threatened to do so many times in the past."
May be seen as an attempt to forewarn friends/familly, as in forwarned is forarmed, an attempt to reduce the emotional fallout if / when the final decision is taken.

I personally dont give a flying toss what the religious have to say on that, or very much any other subject under the sun, to be honest. My children are aware that I might at some point choose to put an end my days here, and so hopefully they are able to meet the reality with the same degree of equilibrium I hope I posess at that time. Hell and Heaven are man made constructs used to browbeat the living into submission, and to wish upon the dead in frustration when people can't exact, or prolong some horrific melevelence of their own.


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Re: Guys, I'm having a sober bad trip right now. [Re: Asante]
    #26356622 - 12/02/19 03:59 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

My exact fear:





I'm no longer afraid.


Not for me.
Not for Her
Not for You.
Not for the whole World.






There is a beginning, and there is an end to all things. we grieve the loss of what we hold dear and go on until we, too, end. But! What if this universe is eternal? What if all things that once begun and ended, will happen again in every possible way, forever? Think about it! You would not just have one life, but you would have every possible life, in every possible way, forever! That means that no matter what you lose, your keys, your friends, your life, it would all come back to you, forever. Rather than a prisoner of circumstance, you are liberated into total freedom. Even if the sun would explode, a new earth would be, life would form on it and you will be born again into every possible reality. Be free! Be brave! Play! Work! Achieve! Love! Not even all the nukes in the world can stop you! YOU ARE ETERNAL!




I gave her the Key to UNFUCK HERSELF and that she thanked me for, in tears, when she logged.

Suicide would be pointless in her case, I think, knowing what she knows now.


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Re: Guys, I'm having a sober bad trip right now. [Re: Asante]
    #26356632 - 12/02/19 04:19 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

That's why the concept of infinity is pretty cool


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Re: Guys, I'm having a sober bad trip right now. [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26356809 - 12/02/19 07:55 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I want to believe she didn't commit suicide.

Amazing events are on the horizon. I hope she doesn't miss out on them.


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Re: Guys, I'm having a sober bad trip right now. [Re: Asante]
    #26357649 - 12/02/19 06:02 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

On thing I have learned (or the universe has taught me, take your pick) is that in this life, we are responsible for one one thing: ourselves.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't help others, we can. But our RESPONSIBILITY is to our own self, and our own self alone.

You cannot control what others do. You cannot control how anyone else thinks, or feels, or acts. That is THEIR responsibility. We can and I believe, SHOULD act in a way that affects others in a positive way, but we are weird apes and sometimes we do the opposite, even if we mean well.

That is STILL their responsibility how they take it. Someone could walk up to me right now and tell me point-blank that I should kill myself, and will I do it? Absolutely not. Because it's my choice, and I decide not to. If someone walks up to me at a bar and calls me a pussy-ass little bitch, will I get angry? Maybe, but only if I WANT to. Only if I decide to. It's up to me whether I let it ruin my night, whether I decide to punch him, or whether I just walk away.

Because, and I'll enunciate for those of you in the back: WE. ARE. RESPONSIBLE. FOR. OURSELVES. AND. OURSELVES. ALONE.


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Re: Guys, I'm having a sober bad trip right now. [Re: Ima Trooper]
    #26357660 - 12/02/19 06:08 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Guys, I'm having a sober bad trip right now. [Re: cannabinated]
    #26357662 - 12/02/19 06:09 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Guys, I'm having a sober bad trip right now. [Re: FungiMaster]
    #26357672 - 12/02/19 06:14 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

nah indicas make u depressed n dissociated

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    #26357745 - 12/02/19 06:56 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

This is graphic. You have been warned.




When I was young, a boy I grew up with (my babysitters son, a couple of years my junior) poured gasoline into their second story bathtub and set himself on fire. As a result of this he set the house on fire too, and when the firefighters scrambled into the house to put out the blaze, they discovered what had happened. Nobody knew what caused the fire until the firefighters blasted in with their hoses.

They found gouges from his fingers scratched in the tile.
He was still barely alive when they got him outside, but all of his veins had completely cauterized and they could do nothing to save him. He died minutes later.

He was 14 years old.
He left a note to his parents, and another to a girl. We were told that the police withheld the note to the girl, because they feared it would cause her too much damage, as he named her as the reason he killed himself.

She was not to blame.

Was he?

How can a 14 year old child comprehend the gravity of such a decision? Was his mental illness a chemical imbalance in his brain? This was in the early 90's. His parents never detected anything remotely wrong with him leading up to that moment.

Were they to blame? No.

My great uncle, a WW2 Navy Man and career firefighter developed emphysema in his 70's-- this strong, proud man rapidly deteriorated to the point he could not stand without suffocating unless he used an oxygen tank.

He took a .38 out to their shed and took his life when his wife of a half-century was gone to the store for groceries. He left a note expressing his eternal love for her, and his determination to release her from the burden of his terminal decline.

Who was to blame?

I have been, in my earlier life, frighteningly explicit in my musings on suicide. I was at a place I can not talk about in detail, but to say that I look back to that time and know it was closer than I would ever share to anyone. With one more beer one of those nights, or one stray thought...
I could have been dead for over 20 years now,

The path through that darkness can hold no reason-- friendships carry no weight. There is no family support that will bear that burden for you. It is a storm within your soul, and it can only be weathered alone-- because that is what puts you there. In a crowd of millions, you are still alone in those times.

Asante, you did what you should do for your friend-- what we should all do for someone that is in crisis-- but it will be her decision. I pray she chooses to live, because the past 20+ years of my life have been the best so far. I have still had dark days, but I have passed the darkest. I will never contemplate that course again, because I know where that door goes, and I love life so much more having it on my map.

It's a marvel that we can reason it out so easily-- us bystanders-- why doesn't she pack up and move to Oregon?-- or Lousiana?. Change her whole life and set and setting could follow!

She has to want to. That's always the hardest sell. Yourself.

And in the off chance she is not sincere in her desperation, and she is using it as a tool to drive emotional connection with people? She's still mentally ill. She knows how broken she is-- if she uses such horrors for attention. She must reckon with her life as it is, and choose to live it in a way that she can love again.

Blame, in all the cases I've touched on, is irrelevant. The spectrum of "cause" is wide and unique to the individual.
The choice is not yours--as others have said. You have been, and are there for her. That's what counts for you. Hopefully it will count for her, too. But if you discover the worst someday, you must know that the path she was on started the day she was born, and be at peace with it.


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