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If they lose in 2020 it's the end of the Democratic party.
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Re: Is the democratic party stable? [Re: meltdowner]
#26347279 - 11/26/19 06:13 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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...and hint! they will lose! Bigly!
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Re: Is the democratic party stable? [Re: qman]
#26347795 - 11/27/19 01:27 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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qman said: Yeah, it's a shit show of supporters that come in direct conflict with each other. Most supporters have nothing in common with each other than hating the other side. That hate isn't good enough to create a strong unity with each other.
What happens after a group of liberals get together for a political rally against Trump? They all go in different directions after it's over because they all have nothing in common other than hatred.
I think you've got it right here.
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Re: Is the democratic party stable? [Re: The Ecstatic]
#26347971 - 11/27/19 06:08 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Yes it’s good that the UAW was able to organize and keep GM from stabbing them in the back. But wouldn’t it be better if we just legislated away that knife in the first place?
Realistically, I think it would be a tough sell legislatively, to require employers to pay full benefits to striking workers. Maybe it could be done by executive order IDK.
Currently that is what strike funds are for. Some unions have good ones. Most don't. A good strike fund is the best way to keep workers out till they get what they want.
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Re: Is the democratic party stable? [Re: Brian Jones] 1
#26348256 - 11/27/19 10:17 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Brian Jones said:
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The Ecstatic said: Yes it’s good that the UAW was able to organize and keep GM from stabbing them in the back. But wouldn’t it be better if we just legislated away that knife in the first place?
Realistically, I think it would be a tough sell legislatively, to require employers to pay full benefits to striking workers.
An easier piece of legislation might be Medicare for all.
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That's #1 on my list, and it should be the first step. When people see how it works out for the majority it will be easier to push through other parts of the progressive agenda.
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Re: Is the democratic party stable? [Re: Brian Jones] 1
#26354359 - 11/30/19 05:49 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Needs to be sold properly as well, though. I can't see any reasonable way of spinning "Medicare for all" as a bad thing, but then again I once heard someone actually say "We should repeal Obamacare, because we've got the Affordable Care Act", which definitely blindsided me.
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Re: Is the democratic party stable? [Re: Kryptos]
#26354649 - 11/30/19 09:08 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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As stable as a Uranium 235
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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Brian Jones said:
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The Ecstatic said: Yes it’s good that the UAW was able to organize and keep GM from stabbing them in the back. But wouldn’t it be better if we just legislated away that knife in the first place?
Realistically, I think it would be a tough sell legislatively, to require employers to pay full benefits to striking workers.
An easier piece of legislation might be Medicare for all.
I'm OK with Medicare for all if the Doctors association brings the cost down of every checkup and procedure. Until then, health insurance for only those who buy into it.
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Re: Is the democratic party stable? [Re: meltdowner]
#26354660 - 11/30/19 09:17 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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meltdowner said: I'm OK with Medicare for all if the Doctors association brings the cost down of every checkup and procedure. Until then, health insurance for only those who buy into it.
That cost would be $0 under Bernie's plan.
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meltdowner
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meltdowner said: I'm OK with Medicare for all if the Doctors association brings the cost down of every checkup and procedure. Until then, health insurance for only those who buy into it.
That cost would be $0 under Bernie's plan.
Impossible.
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Re: Is the democratic party stable? [Re: meltdowner]
#26354822 - 12/01/19 12:06 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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$0 for YOU, is what I meant. I thought that's what you were asking.
In 2016, Bernie proposed a flat income tax increase, which worked out to be less than the current cost of health insurance for the bottom 95% of the country. Only the top 5% would've paid more.
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And of course costs would go down across the board if we get rid of the insurance companies.
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Re: Is the democratic party stable? [Re: meltdowner] 1
#26354931 - 12/01/19 03:29 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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meltdowner said: As stable as a Uranium 235
Uranium-235 has a half-life of 703.8 million years.
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Re: Is the democratic party stable? [Re: koods]
#26355237 - 12/01/19 09:36 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just don't keep too much around in the same spot
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Re: Is the democratic party stable? [Re: ballsalsa]
#26355248 - 12/01/19 09:47 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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I’ll do what I want. Fissile material is my second amendment right
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Re: Is the democratic party stable? [Re: koods]
#26355273 - 12/01/19 10:00 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would think that you would have to develop it into a bona fide weapon before you could claim 2A rights
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Re: Is the democratic party stable? [Re: ballsalsa]
#26355307 - 12/01/19 10:19 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well then basement atomic bombs are protected under the Bill of Rights?
You can pry my tactical fission device out of my cold, dead hands.
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Maybe?
Its a lucky thing there aren't many Mad Scientist Supervillains out there.
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Re: Is the democratic party stable? [Re: ballsalsa]
#26355340 - 12/01/19 10:43 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Indeed.
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