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Advice for avoiding scary body trip
    #26353983 - 11/30/19 02:25 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Yesterday I took mushrooms for the first time in 25 years. Dried cyans, approximately 1.5 grams. Didn’t make tea, just chewed them up and ate them on an empty stomach with a little orange juice. I was hoping for a moderate level trip, had paid careful attention to setting, and had my husband as a trip-sitter. Unfortunately what happened was a very intense body-focused experience that involved involuntary hyperventilating, racing heart, and hyper-awareness of all the energies in my body... hard to explain but I felt all my organs separately and perceived their energy states. I was periodically gripped by wracking sobs and fits of laughter, and it felt almost like being in labor, but of course without any pain. I wasn’t afraid at any time, I just let my body do what it apparently had to do and ride it out. I had very little of what I remember a trip being like - no visuals, no major insight besides realizing how out of touch with my physical self I’ve become. Certainly no entities or feelings of traveling. There is absolutely no doubt about these being the correct mushrooms. One thousand percent verified cyans. I know I took a light dose, and I would like to try again with a higher dose but frankly I don’t want to go through that physical trip again. Does anyone have any ideas maybe about preparation methods or dosages? Has anyone had an experience similar to this before?


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Re: Advice for avoiding scary body trip [Re: AimeeNW]
    #26354122 - 11/30/19 03:45 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

1.5g of cyans is a fair dose comparable to 3g of cubensis, my advice would be to take a break and make sure your mind and body is ready before you trip, tripping on an empty stomach can be tough because you can get in a state of being hungry but unable to eat which can leave you feeling weak and tired. Woodlovers can have different effects from cultivated cubensis for various reasons, they can have pesticides sprayed on them and also are known to cause woodlover paralysis. Unpleasant trips are a good learning experience because it can help you get to a point where you can have the blissful trip you are seeking. The truth is mushrooms and other psychedelics are not for everyone and its important to make sure you are ready for the effects. Take a break and start small if you choose to keep eating them. Imo mushrooms are not a party drug and their true value is as a tool for personal growth.


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Re: Advice for avoiding scary body trip [Re: Shroomhunts] * 1
    #26354180 - 11/30/19 04:30 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

People need to realize that while it can be a good thing to "avoid" the difficulty, challenge, and scary-ness of a Psychedelic experience, most people imo need to undergo that kinda stuff, it builds discipline, it lets you know that it's serious and is to be respected, and not just some thing to take and "have fun" on. There's no doubt room for fun, but people lack the mental discipline that they need, they need to feel the "holy shit! i've done it now, what have i done?" feeling from an Entheogen, they need to know it's serious business. It doesn't matter if it brings up fear/terror/panic, it doesn't matter if it brings up your fears or your bullshit, that's the shit people need to face and go through in order to move past it and see what all else there is and to learn/understand some things. It's a good thing. Granted, you don't want to be absolutely terrified and not know how to navigate through that kinda stuff, that's what ends up giving you a "bad trip", plus taking into account the set/setting/approach of the one consuming the Entheogen. If it wasn't the least bit difficult, and was all fun and games, people wouldn't learn jack shit about what they really need to learn about. Now, i do agree that it's nice to not have to deal with that, hence something like Lemon Balm, but i personally believe that people need the discipline and teachings that come from difficult/challenging experience. If you don't want much of a challenge, go for LSD, if you want the real deal, go for the Tryptamines.


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Re: Advice for avoiding scary body trip [Re: Sabnock]
    #26354185 - 11/30/19 04:32 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

But basically, let go/surrender/give in and let your body do what it needs to do, but be able to relax/calm yourself, focus on your breathing and/or music, and go with the flow, let it take you over and don't try to control the experience/medicine, just learn to control your reactions and calm yourself/relax/breathe.


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Re: Advice for avoiding scary body trip [Re: Sabnock] * 1
    #26354197 - 11/30/19 04:39 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Thank you both for your replies. I assure you I wasn't treating them like a party drug or looking for fun and games. I had done study on the shrooms, I searched for and found them myself (and had my ID seconded by a knowledgeable person), I had thought deeply about what I wanted to learn and I made preparations for what I hoped would be a learning experience. I was not expecting the strong body reaction, I don’t remember anything like that happening when I took them many years ago - and back then, I WAS just looking for a good time! I suppose I did get my question answered, but I am disappointed at the lack of psychedelic effect. The experience was all in my body and my emotions. I think I will try again but not until I’ve had some time to think about and assimilate this trip.


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    #26354205 - 11/30/19 04:44 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Oh, and as I said in my original post, it wasn’t frightening - just overwhelming. I basically ended up spending four hours concentrating on my breathing and traveling around my body feeling the different energies and finding blockages and “stuck” areas. I had gone into it with the question “how can I undo the knots that are holding me back?” I was thinking about creative energy and being held back in my art.... but apparently there are some very much more physical knots to deal with.


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Re: Advice for avoiding scary body trip [Re: Sabnock] * 1
    #26354227 - 11/30/19 04:53 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

From my experience hyperventilation and racing hearts are clockwork with high doses. Also expect intense vomiting and shitting yourself if you go very and I mean very deep. This happened to me but I had an absurd amount of shrooms in my body. If you are looking for a mystical and enlightening experience, this worked for me. I started tripping mushrooms after years and started at doses of 20g fresh or 2g dried. After many trips I let my body take control and I wound up eating 1.5oz. I do not recommend doing this. If you want to travel deeper into the mind and have more meaningful experiences try working up your tolerance slowly. As I started taking higher doses my experiences became deeper, more meaningful and the introspective thinking gets intense in a way you think very well. This is only from my experience and I am writing this not long after. If you try this you must be one with your body, I fully agree with the others. If i was not as experienced as I am I would have had a very bad time, I handled a break through and avoided another one. This is not something to dive into if you wish to go this deep. This type of depth requires a deep respect. Read my 1.5oz hero dose report for an idea where high doses can take you. This has been the best tool of my life to help me grow learn from it and only use it in positive ways, you can learn to avoid the negetivity, just DO NOT RESIST.


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Re: Advice for avoiding scary body trip [Re: VillageBoomer]
    #26354237 - 11/30/19 04:55 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

For a more "fun" time try adding nitrous oxide. It is a trip on a trip it is very fun just don't let the nos overwhelm you. From my experience nos turns the lights on, if you want visuals add nos. I have a trip report on this as well. Also taking mushrooms in tea or alcohol extraction will cut out a lot of the body load and produce the same mental effects.


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Re: Advice for avoiding scary body trip [Re: VillageBoomer]
    #26354344 - 11/30/19 05:43 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah i don't know about cyans compared to cubes, 1.5 grams could've been a good dosage. Sometimes you just get the experience you need, like removing blockages, purging negative patterns or thoughts, recovering from some sort of trauma, sometimes you just go along for the ride, i'd say just try again and see how it goes. When in doubt, use music as a guide and for direction of the experience, if you wanna reduce the bodily discomfort, try some Lemon Balm tea (3 to 4.5 grams of dried leaf made into a tea). These things can definitely be overwhelming from time to time and there's a wide range of possible/potential experiences one can have, but you can definitely add some factors to the mushrooms (like music, admixture plants like Lemon Balm, breathing techniques, a particular setting, lights on or off. etc) in order to gain some control/say so over which direction the experience goes and what all can influence your experience. Just know it's perfectly normal though, people can have some rough experiences, but don't let it deter you from further work, let things unravel.


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Re: Advice for avoiding scary body trip [Re: Sabnock] * 1
    #26354722 - 11/30/19 10:10 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks Boomer and Sabnock. I didn’t know about lemon balm, I have a huge plant and I’m a fan of it as tea anyway. If/when I try again I’ll definitely have some on hand.


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