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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: natedawgnow]
#26353026 - 11/30/19 01:18 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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When I was 15 I had known about condoms for years... lmfao
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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: koods]
#26353036 - 11/30/19 01:27 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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living_failure said: I don't see how muslim religion would be open to values of homosexuality, transsexualism or in acceptance of others in general. And i don't think is possible in catholicism or for an orthodox.
I don't say it as a neckbeard atheist. But i don't think it is a minority problem, but a cultural one. In order to change a culture so much in so many time you would need a miracle or a catastrophe.
Muslims are more accepting of gay people then evangelicals in the US.
koods world view continues to be confined to the country he lives in despite not even liking it
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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: Near Dylan]
#26353557 - 11/30/19 10:36 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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He's an atheist Jew, they are notorious for shitting on christians at any turn while using other religions they also hate to pin against them too.
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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: Eminence]
#26353574 - 11/30/19 10:43 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Atheist Jew đ¤Śââď¸
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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: Tantrika]
#26353595 - 11/30/19 10:53 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Tantrika, no, a lot of "white" people do have a problem with it. But "white" people lack balls today, because to us/them, being called a "bigot" is the worst thing that can happen.
And sure, so far there's only one case of that happening, but why the fuck did it happen at all? He's just the only one who had to fight a custody battle, he's not the only one whose child has been pressured into it.
Don't get me wrong, I don't hate gay or trans people, but like I said this isn't about acceptance anymore. This is getting to be about forcing people to comply. Like George Carlin said, "political correctness is just fascism with manners."
I'd defend a trans or gay person if I saw someone attacking them just for being that way. If I saw one getting attacked by a parent for trying to convince their kid how "cool" or "unique" it is or trying to tell them they're not the sex they actually are like a few teachers have been starting to do now, I ain't stepping in though.
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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: Near Dylan]
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living_failure said: I don't see how muslim religion would be open to values of homosexuality, transsexualism or in acceptance of others in general. And i don't think is possible in catholicism or for an orthodox.
I don't say it as a neckbeard atheist. But i don't think it is a minority problem, but a cultural one. In order to change a culture so much in so many time you would need a miracle or a catastrophe.
Muslims are more accepting of gay people then evangelicals in the US.
koods world view continues to be confined to the country he lives in despite not even liking it
Muslims are better people than Christians, but religious people are worse than non religious. I generally do not associate with people who go to church or temple or whatever. Ainât nobody got time for that bullshit
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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: koods]
#26353601 - 11/30/19 10:56 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Everyone knows you people class yourselves as your own race, and are even protected under the law as a "victim" class. Don't try to play dumb.
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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: koods]
#26353617 - 11/30/19 11:01 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Muslims are better people than Christians, but religious people are worse than non religious. I generally do not associate with people who go to church or temple or whatever. Ainât nobody got time for that bullshit
Some are, but you base this off the way gays or trans or women are treated..and everybody knows, Christian countries are better to live in for those people. The only place where Christians are as brutal as Muslims to these demographics are places in Africa. How many times these days has a woman gone to a Christian country to prove how misunderstood they actually are and ended up gang raped and beheaded?
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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: Eminence]
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Everyone knows you people class yourselves as your own race, and are even protected under the law as a "victim" class. Don't try to play dumb.
Not Jewish. Have no Jewish ancestors. No Jewish DNA. No Jewish relatives. I have no idea why you think Iâm Jewish đ¤Śââď¸
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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: koods]
#26353651 - 11/30/19 11:21 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Man, Spain must suck Here in Canada, things like diabetes (public health care provides free insulin), obesity, and dangerous workplace environments are considered real issues
but duly noted that you personally find the numbers too low to matter given that the number of trans murders is seemingly higher than the number of Spanish murders is your position then also that murdered Spanish citizens don't matter because the deaths are too low to move anyone?
As God Empress of Earth my choice would be to save all 130000 human individuals what is arbitrary is your selection of these talking points am not, in any way, saying that trans rights are the only issue that matters just that it is an issue as worthy of recognition as others
and, more than that, am simply talking about trans rights in a thread already focused on LGBT affairs

And while shivas.wisdom gets a lot of dislike around this forum am personally thankful to know that he's willing to take that stand on my behalf, take a punch so I don't have too, stomp a fash to protect me because I'm scared of violence or messing up my heels
again, not minimizing these realities just recognizing that other threads exist that are focused on those topics
am not clear on what you are trying to say here but to reiterate one of my earlier statements in this thread -- am not worried about muslims hating on me for being trans (and a lesbian) am worried about muslims hating on trans and gay muslims, in insular muslim communities, where traditional beliefs may increase the likelihood of danger to them
similarly, this is neither me saying that being trans in Canada makes me more in danger from Sharia violence than other infidels just a recognition of my blessing to be able to be openly trans and lez in "white communities," like the Shroomery, and not have any real fear of lethal violence from other members of my community
at most, someone may call me names they find amusing my relative level of danger for being trans in a first world Western country is real low and am thankful for that -- find it a damn shame that comfort is not sufficiently extending to transwomen who have other additional minority status or less safe communities tho
Ok boomer 
Again, my point is, it is impossible or it should be impossible to convince society of special problems of transexual people on muslim territories because its is an absolute small problem even if it is a relative big problem. Statistically speaking, big and easily handled issues are more likely being adressed that small and hard handled issues. And yes, that is why to the world spanish murders doesn't matter, even if it matters to spanish people. Just in case, i don't give a crap about spain in general. But my argument is that worlwide murders are higher than trans murders (duh), grown people are higher than murdered trans, as are a lot of other issues there. That is why transexual deaths are on low priority. I am not saying at all i don't give a crap about transexual murders (i don't) i am just saying why society doesn't give a crap, or why it would be a bad symptom if it did.
Again, you tried to save everyone as god emperor, since it was a thing you needed to choose, you killed them all for refusing to choose. That is the point, there are not resources for everything. Or at least, that is the way society works.
Being in a western community is not free of violence. Neonazis and antifas had both sent me into the hospital a few times. Most my teeth are broken or replaced, my right shoulder is rekt, my jaw doesn,t properly shut. And that was just by giving my opinion. I've been robbed, spitted and insulted just for looking too rich or looking too poor. An other times it was because i looked into it for fun. A few times my live was a risk and i had to run faster. And i am white and blonde. I would have been killed in a muslim country for my way of life for sure. I am as fucked as you are, and i believe a lot of other people are fucked under muslim law as you and i are. Trying over and over to focus on "my collective is in worse state therefore we need more help" is repulsive to me. Stop finding more boxes and labels to make you different.
Also, i was tought that you americans earned a lot of more money and didn't pay as much taxes as we do. A software developer in USA can earn like 60k a year for a shitty job. That is double what i earn. I was trying to help giving you cheap job advice. There is a wave in the software world. Easy money for a few decades left.
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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: koods]
#26353694 - 11/30/19 11:39 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Everyone knows you people class yourselves as your own race, and are even protected under the law as a "victim" class. Don't try to play dumb.
Not Jewish. Have no Jewish ancestors. No Jewish DNA. No Jewish relatives. I have no idea why you think Iâm Jewish đ¤Śââď¸
So if someone asks you what your ethnic/religious/racial heritage is, what do you say?
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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: qman]
#26353751 - 11/30/19 12:14 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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White. my moms family is catholic French and polish. Dadâs family is atheist British loyalist left the US after the war for Canada. Both sides most recently came from Nova Scotia about 100 years ago, my dadâs side were the British oppressors and my moms side were oppressed French speaking Acadians who came to New England to work in the textile mills. All those French names you see on mailboxes in southern new hampsire and the northern suburbs of Boston are my relatives.
Except for my polish born grandfather, both sides of my family have been in North America since the 1600s
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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: koods]
#26353770 - 11/30/19 12:26 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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that explains a lot... lol
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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: Eminence]
#26353790 - 11/30/19 12:35 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Eminence said: Tantrika, no, a lot of "white" people do have a problem with it. But "white" people lack balls today, because to us/them, being called a "bigot" is the worst thing that can happen. ...
Well, no offense, but maybe y'all should stop being such snowflakes and speak out
I get called bigot for some of my views, I also get called Truscum which is a unique trans-community insult for trans individuals who are not considered supportive enough of all the variations of trans individuals then on the other side of things I get called freak, tranny, a pedophile, a sexual predator
but my comment did recognize that there may be a minority of "white" people who were too afraid to protest alongside muslim women in face coverings
but, more relevantly, the idea that there might be a few chickenshit individuals on the side of the muslims in this debate but afraid to speak up that reinforces that the broader community is fine with it
interestingly, not even Tommy Robinson appeared to come out and say the LGBT values of the course were too extreme or fostering pedophilia and he's already proved he has the "balls" to go out and get arrested for speaking up against things he believes is wrong
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Do you think it happened at all because kids are being educated about trans and gay rights
or do you think it happened because the distorted values of the childcare system always prioritizes the mother while putting the father on the back burner because fathers are not traditionally considered as the primary care giver
do think the situation you are referring to is atrocious, and that better protections need to be built into the child custody systems but do not think it is a by-product of the type of LGBT lessons the muslims are complaining about
especially as you highlighted it is the mother and her lover who pressure the kid, not the kid having learned about being trans and ostracizing his own father for not accepting it
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Eminence said: ... Don't get me wrong, I don't hate gay or trans people, but like I said this isn't about acceptance anymore. This is getting to be about forcing people to comply. Like George Carlin said, "political correctness is just fascism with manners." ...
and when George Carlin said that, it was politically incorrect to be a transwoman or even a transvestite
my favourite Shania Twain song is inspired by transvestites, and my favourite line is "ain't gonna act politically correct, I only want to have a good time"
while respecting and agreeing with your view that you may not want to develop fascist manners feel it is also relevant to notify you that earlier this year the UK government also cracked down on transwomen, claiming that trying to verbally defend ourselves from transphobes endangers women https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2019-05-02/zombie-land-saga-lily-becomes-example-in-u.k-parliament-talks-on-twitter-abuse/.146349
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 was misquoted (as "shut the fuck up cunt" to make it seem more anti-woman rather than anti-terf) as part of a campaign of powerful women trying to shut down minority (read: trans) women
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Cherry contrasted Twitterâs failure to respond quickly to misogynistic abuse with examples of alacritous intolerance to tweets that raised the issue of male violence â citing examples of users who had had their Twitter accounts temporarily suspended for making factual, gender-based observations with a male flavor â such as that, on aggregate, men kill more than women.
Or tweets citing British law â which states that only a man can commit rape.
âThere seem to be a number of mistakes here. And they seem to be mistakes that are failing to protect women. Do you accept that?â asked Cherry.
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The abusive tweets discussed during this portion of the session appeared to have been targeted at cisgender women, i.e. at women whose gender identity matches their birth sex.
To be clear, the term âcisgenderâ was not used during the questioning session. But âterfâ â a term that stands for âtrans-exclusionary radical feministâ and is used to refer to people who reject the rights of trans women â was directly referred to during the hearing, featuring in several of the tweets that Cherry raised with Twitter. The MP suggested the term âtendsâ to be applied to women.
https://techcrunch.com/2019/05/01/twitter-grilled-on-policy-approach-that-reinforces-misogyny/
but, hey, maybe fascism isn't scary until you feel like you are the one who risks being "silenced" by it
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Eminence said: ... I'd defend a trans or gay person if I saw someone attacking them just for being that way. If I saw one getting attacked by a parent for trying to convince their kid how "cool" or "unique" it is or trying to tell them they're not the sex they actually are like a few teachers have been starting to do now, I ain't stepping in though.
it interests me that you state a position of defense for trans people but in the same paragraph make a point of referencing trans individuals as "not the sex they actually are"
while more of a trans-adjacent issue, what do you feel is the best course of action for intersex inviduals or those with genetic abnormalities that tend them towards secondary sex expressions that do not match their assigned birth sex?
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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: dreamachine]
#26353799 - 11/30/19 12:40 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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How so?
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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: living_failure]
#26353809 - 11/30/19 12:47 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Man, Spain must suck Here in Canada, things like diabetes (public health care provides free insulin), obesity, and dangerous workplace environments are considered real issues
but duly noted that you personally find the numbers too low to matter given that the number of trans murders is seemingly higher than the number of Spanish murders is your position then also that murdered Spanish citizens don't matter because the deaths are too low to move anyone?
As God Empress of Earth my choice would be to save all 130000 human individuals what is arbitrary is your selection of these talking points am not, in any way, saying that trans rights are the only issue that matters just that it is an issue as worthy of recognition as others
and, more than that, am simply talking about trans rights in a thread already focused on LGBT affairs

And while shivas.wisdom gets a lot of dislike around this forum am personally thankful to know that he's willing to take that stand on my behalf, take a punch so I don't have too, stomp a fash to protect me because I'm scared of violence or messing up my heels
again, not minimizing these realities just recognizing that other threads exist that are focused on those topics
am not clear on what you are trying to say here but to reiterate one of my earlier statements in this thread -- am not worried about muslims hating on me for being trans (and a lesbian) am worried about muslims hating on trans and gay muslims, in insular muslim communities, where traditional beliefs may increase the likelihood of danger to them
similarly, this is neither me saying that being trans in Canada makes me more in danger from Sharia violence than other infidels just a recognition of my blessing to be able to be openly trans and lez in "white communities," like the Shroomery, and not have any real fear of lethal violence from other members of my community
at most, someone may call me names they find amusing my relative level of danger for being trans in a first world Western country is real low and am thankful for that -- find it a damn shame that comfort is not sufficiently extending to transwomen who have other additional minority status or less safe communities tho
Ok boomer 
Again, my point is, it is impossible or it should be impossible to convince society of special problems of transexual people on muslim territories because its is an absolute small problem even if it is a relative big problem. Statistically speaking, big and easily handled issues are more likely being adressed that small and hard handled issues. And yes, that is why to the world spanish murders doesn't matter, even if it matters to spanish people. Just in case, i don't give a crap about spain in general. But my argument is that worlwide murders are higher than trans murders (duh), grown people are higher than murdered trans, as are a lot of other issues there. That is why transexual deaths are on low priority. I am not saying at all i don't give a crap about transexual murders (i don't) i am just saying why society doesn't give a crap, or why it would be a bad symptom if it did. ...
Society does give a crap tho there are political movements all over the world finally engaging to protect transwomen
you keep talking about how unimportant the matter is to you then trying to tell me that means it is unimportant to the rest of the world but you are not providing anything that backs that up
but acknowledge and recognize that you at least care enough to keep posting about it in this thread so there is that
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living_failure said: ... Again, you tried to save everyone as god emperor, since it was a thing you needed to choose, you killed them all for refusing to choose. That is the point, there are not resources for everything. Or at least, that is the way society works. ...
You gave me a hypothetical situation where my power was beyond limits (God Empress) then tried to claim that my acceptance and utilization of that power means I fucked up your hypothetical situation and killed them all
you also ignore the fact that I would willingly sacrifice my all-powerful self to save all of them, if the "law of equivalent exchange" had to be monitored
but by making up a cartoonish example of nothingness, you have not made any point about actual society that you seem to believe you have
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living_failure said: ... Being in a western community is not free of violence. Neonazis and antifas had both sent me into the hospital a few times. Most my teeth are broken or replaced, my right shoulder is rekt, my jaw doesn,t properly shut. And that was just by giving my opinion. I've been robbed, spitted and insulted just for looking too rich or looking too poor. An other times it was because i looked into it for fun. A few times my live was a risk and i had to run faster. And i am white and blonde. I would have been killed in a muslim country for my way of life for sure. I am as fucked as you are, and i believe a lot of other people are fucked under muslim law as you and i are. Trying over and over to focus on "my collective is in worse state therefore we need more help" is repulsive to me. Stop finding more boxes and labels to make you different. ...
My statement was never that being in a Western Community is free from violence just that my risk of violence is significantly lower because white communities are less likely to enact fatal violence against white transwomen than minority communities are likely to enact fatal violence against minority transwomen
given that this is a thread about LGBT treatment by minority communities, it makes perfect sense for me to focus on the topics at hand
meanwhile, you are coming in here and offering up a bunch of completely unrelated affairs, and trying to use them to denigrate the value of the topic of the thread
maybe rather than trying to show me all the boxes that make you different from the on-topic matters in this thread you could engage with the actual thread topic for a change instead of acting like your identity is so important it has to be considered first before trans and minority matters can be discussed, in a space opened for discussing trans an minority matters
You won't, but you could
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the content you quoted references me as not being an American multiple times that is only really the start of the issues with you not paying attention to the matters being discussed in my posts tho
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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: koods]
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How so?
I'm 30% Pakistani, and have ancestry that participated in the revolution and had ties with the Masons. Ancestry can tell a lot about a person.
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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: dreamachine]
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My first boyfriend was Pakistani.
How can someone be 30% anything though? I thought ancestry came in powers of 2
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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: koods]
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Point taken. It's not really an accurate number. The dna test I took was kind of weird and I just took the numbers it gave me that didn't necessarily represent percentage and totaled them up to make a rough estimate. I can post that shit. It's kind of cool to think about, I got legit over a dozen different nationalities according to the one test. That said the way the test works is based on percent of the population of said country that has the same genetic markers or whatever. I think. lol
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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: koods]
#26354368 - 11/30/19 05:59 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm white and my first real girlfriend was black, does that mean anything? Nope.
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