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Re: Okay to add light dry verm layer to monotub 9 days in? [Re: feldman114] 1
#26353698 - 11/30/19 11:40 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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feldman114 said: There’s never a need to sprinkle anything onto a colonized mono
Which is what I’m refuting
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There’s never a need to sprinkle dry verm onto a colonized mono
Which I would generally agree with.
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Re: Okay to add light dry verm layer to monotub 9 days in? [Re: DNA_Trip] 1
#26353713 - 11/30/19 11:49 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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DNA_Trip said: So that's the thing, I haven't even been fucking with it dude. I made sure not to do anything at all like you chose to - tearing holes, taking lid off, spraying, misting when not needed, whatever all the messing that you said you did. I've been keep mine in the exact same conditions, and just want to ask questions about certain concerns I am having. I haven't fucked with it, it's been chilling with the lid on, and I'm noticing a couple side pins, and trying to find out how to remedy that. Is that such a bad thing or concern to ask? Because I consider fucking and messing around with it to be tearing it apart by drilling holes, misting when you don't need to, and whatever else you did to yours. If your reply isn't going to be helping me in the help I am seeking about the side pins then please don't answer to just pass judgement. I'm taking your mistakes as a learning experience, but this whole thing is a learning experience for everyone, especially us newbies, so there's nothing wrong with wanting to get advice from more highly experienced cultivators about the side pinning I am seeing.
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Re: Okay to add light dry verm layer to monotub 9 days in? [Re: AyePlus]
#26353719 - 11/30/19 11:52 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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AyePlus said: You said:
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feldman114 said: There’s never a need to sprinkle anything onto a colonized mono
Which is what I’m refuting
Not
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There’s never a need to sprinkle dry verm onto a colonized mono
Which I would generally agree with.
How do you “sprinkle” a proper casing? Why would you “sprinkle” a proper casing?
I think it’s obvious what I meant but, by all means, refute away Captain Semantics.
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Re: Okay to add light dry verm layer to monotub 9 days in? [Re: feldman114]
#26353761 - 11/30/19 12:20 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just stopping in to say that my tub did not fruit until day 15 or 16. Even then it hardly fruited for two weeks. You should give it some time.
To answer your question about the late casing layer, all I can say is I added a casing layer of pasteurized coir a full month into spawning and it blew up out of nowhere. So it may help, but it might also hurt. I'd say hold off, there's time to add a casing ,if it really is necessary, later.
I'm a noob though, so take that all with a big ol' grain of salt.
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Re: Okay to add light dry verm layer to monotub 9 days in? [Re: feldman114]
#26353796 - 11/30/19 12:38 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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 Tbh it wasnt clear to me. Dont get your panties in a bunch. That literally where my head went. How else would you describe the act of putting on a casing layer on evenly? Do you pour and spread yours?
I like nice thin casing layers and sprinkling describes how I do it perfectly. Casings just trap humidity to make a microclimate for pinning, when you late case you dont want to damage the myc because it should have fully colonized the sub(if you’re trying to “late case” specifically.) you can lay casings at spawning too but if theyre coir based thats more of a top layer than a casing.
Coir will colonize so if all you have is coir and verm the verm would be a better choice IMO. But late casing should happen after full colonization, before pinning but after knotting starts. And usually the myc wont fully colonize even a coir casing,
Tbh OP your timing isnt that far off if you want to late case you could use a little coir or get some jiffy seed starting mix and get it to Field capacity and pasteurize it. Then sprinkle a thin layer on after it cools off, maybe 1/4” at most
I think even if you dont case you’ll get a good pinset so its totally up to you though, and if its not sporeworks PE (swpe)or another blobbing variety. I think its a waste of time
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Re: Okay to add light dry verm layer to monotub 9 days in? [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
#26353905 - 11/30/19 01:31 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Okay to add light dry verm layer to monotub 9 days in? [Re: feldman114]
#26353967 - 11/30/19 02:14 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah so I'm not doing anything, I'm leaving it. So sprinkling dry verm is going to do me more harm than good correct?
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Re: Okay to add light dry verm layer to monotub 9 days in? [Re: unibrowscowl]
#26354003 - 11/30/19 02:37 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Does it need to be sunlight directly hitting them for the light dark cycle or ambient room light is also well enough?
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Re: Okay to add light dry verm layer to monotub 9 days in? [Re: feldman114]
#26354021 - 11/30/19 02:49 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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AyePlus said:
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There’s never a need to sprinkle dry verm onto a colonized mono
Which I would generally agree with.
How do you “sprinkle” a proper casing? Why would you “sprinkle” a proper casing?
I think it’s obvious what I meant but, by all means, refute away Captain Semantics.
Why sprinkle? How else would you do it?
I "sprinkled" this casing, it seems to have worked . Dumping it in one huge pile and trying to spread it out after is probably a crapshoot, sprinkle a little bit over the whole thing then I level it out, light pressure. 
Late casing, applied purposefully at about 90% colonization, served it's purpose well. I don't really recommend late casing other than this, and yeah I dunno where the dry verm idea came from?
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Re: Okay to add light dry verm layer to monotub 9 days in? [Re: sh4d0ws]
#26354532 - 11/30/19 07:41 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Indirect sunlight or a white/blue light (6500k) works best. I use led white lights. They work good.
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