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A Glimpse of Life After Magic Mushroom Legalization * 1
    #26353612 - 11/30/19 10:59 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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A Glimpse of Life After Magic Mushroom Legalization

A cottage industry of businesses is rapidly expanding in anticipation of the eventual legalization in America of psychedelics, from magic mushroom manufacturers to professional trip sitting services. Over the Holiday break, I've gotten a glimpse of what life will be like after drug laws change in the United States, after spending some time in Amsterdam, where buying psychedelics is as easy as buying an apple in a corner store (magic mushroom truffles are sold in shiny commercial packages at "smartshops" peppered throughout the city to tourists).

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It was a fun week. One morning, I went to a microdose yoga class, where students, some of whom had very little experience with drugs, were served a few truffles to munch on before a cathartic round of stretching. Students moved from cobra to downward dog, as ceremonial cocoa and psychedelics pumped through their system. Afterwards, in a circle, they shared their experiences with the group and lounged around afterwards to make new friends.

It was as normal as any yoga class I've attended, with the exception that a Schedule 1 drug was served, which, in America, might have prompted a S.W.A.T. team to bust through the doors and arrest our teachers as drug traffickers.


I found out about these events publicly on Facebook. At another microdosing event, cheese and crackers were served after a light spiritual drumming meditation session. One of the people told me how, in the past, he and his daughter served magic truffles as part of the Jewish holiday, Passover. In America, I could see family psychedelic use trigger headlines. In Amsterdam, no one blinked.

Least readers think that the Dutch are heavy drug users, I found quite the opposite. During the week, I attended a few tech meetups, and unlike my conversations in Silicon Valley, almost no one had any interest in psychedelics. I was told that Amsterdam's growing industry of psychedelic retreats and professional trip sitters is mostly from foreigners. Locals, by and large, have no interest in it.

Magic mushrooms in Amsterdam reminded me of what has happened in my home state of California with the legalization of Marijuana. The legalization movement was a political firestorm. But, a year into legalization, the use of Cannabis has been rather unremarkable. Many of my friends don't use it and there's no epidemic of it causing life-destroying drug addiction.


In the beginning, I suspect psychedelics will be the same way. It will be up to psychedelic enthusiasts to prove that these compounds have more than recreational value. Last month in Austin, I attended a conference put on by one the world's leading psychedelics research organizations, MAPS. The enthusiasm was palpable. I met so many investors and entrepreneurs excited to bring services to a post-legalization world. I talked to people designing virtual reality experiences, professional clinics, and technology products to serve what is expected to be a wave of new psychedelic users. The industry, however, is in its infancy and it will probably need to progress and polish before it has mainstream appeal.

It all depends on changing laws. America's coming debate over psychedelics will be fierce; fears of public health and moral decline will swirl around the national conversation. And, during this clash, I will sit back and think of my time in Amsterdam, where the vivid scenarios painted by opponents won't match the tame reality just across the Atlantic.


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Re: A Glimpse of Life After Magic Mushroom Legalization [Re: sycodelix]
    #26353661 - 11/30/19 11:25 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I thought after the French teen jumped out a bus they made it hard to buy.  Overly optimistic for the States as we just got decriminalization for Colorado. 

BUT IT WILL BE LEGAL HERE!  No, though it is the Trump presidency and I am sure it is on state lists, follow the news, not happening.  Wish it would, but no.


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Re: A Glimpse of Life After Magic Mushroom Legalization [Re: Barnaby]
    #26357906 - 12/02/19 08:20 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I thought after the French teen jumped out a bus they made it hard to buy.




There was a media circus surrounding the sale of magic mushrooms in Amsterdam, which was linked to one or two high profile tragedies such as the one above.

Almost exactly 10 years ago they banned the sale of most of the psilocybin species, although I think you can still grow them at home. The "magic mushroom ban" was based on specific species rather than a blanket ban on the sale of anything containing psilocybin.

They deliberately excluded sclerotia from the legislation on the grounds that it was generally less potent than some of the mushrooms on sale (e.g. before the ban you could buy packs of fresh pans cyans). Before the mushrooms were banned, the sclerotia available in shops was known as "philosophers' stones" and was probably not especially potent.

The result of the ban was that the media circus ended and the people that like to ban things could be satisfied that 'something had been done'. Sclerotia replaced the magic mushrooms in commercial production, they were marketed as "magic truffles" and the range expanded to include ATL#7 (sold as Atlantis) alongside Tampanensis and Mexicana.

Stronger sclerotia gradually became available (either through cultivation techniques / genetics or just letting the sclerotia mature fully before harvesting) and the range proliferated to include new 'special editions' with wacky names, some of which were advertised as 'new species'.

Some of the products were very strong - this was my first experience with "Dragon's Dynamite" for example - 15g Dragon's Dynamite Sclerotia - an indirect way to experience Egypt although I think the average potency has gone down since then, and a standard 15g dose as sold these days usually gives a fairly mild to moderate type of trip.

The lesson here is that you can "ban" a psychedelic, then continue to sell it in a different form in the same shops, but suddenly it is no longer an issue because the media hysteria has died down. It also helps that "magic truffles" doesn't really have the same ring to it as "magic mushrooms", so although sclerotia is on open sale, it doesn't generate as much attention as the mushrooms. People who want to take it can find it; other people might not notice it or even know what 'magic truffles' are.

To compare Amsterdam to the States is difficult - Amsterdam is a tourist hotspot which has always been known for weed and its red light district.  I think it is true that despite the widespread availability of "magic truffles", few of the local Dutch population are interested in them - I expect lots of curious teens and college students will try them at some point, but only a minority will develop an ongoing interest in psychedelics.

Hopefully the ongoing research into psychedelics will help strengthen the perception that psilocybin is useful, safe and valuable as both a medicine and a tool of personal or spiritual exploration. It's hard to predict cultural shifts but we are a long way from both the 60s and the Reagan era 'war on drugs'.


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Re: A Glimpse of Life After Magic Mushroom Legalization [Re: Barnaby]
    #26365158 - 12/06/19 02:05 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

after that incident, they banned mushrooms

but only mushrooms. truffles aren't technically mushrooms under the law, so Psilocybin containing truffles are still legal in the Netherlands


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Re: A Glimpse of Life After Magic Mushroom Legalization [Re: shroomgirl645] * 1
    #26371555 - 12/09/19 05:43 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

The media attention in the usa would be mixed to very bad.  If it was a political issue it'd go either way.  Fox news running mushroom freakout police reports, cnn posting peer reviewed studies.

It'd be nice just to see lives not furher damaged by the hopeless war on drugs.


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