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Okay to add light dry verm layer to monotub 9 days in?
    #26353236 - 11/30/19 06:59 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

It's been 9 days since I spawned to my shoebox tub, and still no pins on the surface. My surface conditions are good because when I shine a light I still see crystal like beads of water and moisture. I'm suspecting I may get tons of side pins, I am using the unmodified tub tek. I spawned straight to fruiting conditions with the lid allowing FAE with a 12/12 light dark cycle, and no liner. I know I should just leave it alone, but I'm trying to negate the effects of side pinning as much as I can. I don't have any bulk substrate left, but I have a bag of vermiculite. My question is it safe and okay to to sprinkle some dry vermiculite on top at this point 9 days in? Whenever I spawned I added a thin layer of my bulk substrate on top, everything seems colonized now, and I was wondering if I could just lightly sprinkle some dry vermiculite on top? Or should I just leave it be?




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Re: Okay to add light dry verm layer to monotub 9 days in? [Re: DNA_Trip]
    #26353301 - 11/30/19 07:43 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

It won't hurt it if you do, I personally never put verm in or on the sub, but some people do. It looks like you have knots starting, so I wouldn't try and fix it if it's not broken. If it were my tub I'd let it do its thing, looks like you will have mushrooms within a few days to a week. And there isn't anything wrong with side pins, they are still mushrooms. Good luck.


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Re: Okay to add light dry verm layer to monotub 9 days in? [Re: MH5109]
    #26353335 - 11/30/19 08:04 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Right, they're still going to be mushrooms, but it's not good just for the sides to be pinning and nothing at the surface correct? Isn't that just going to be a huge problem with nothing but side pins and nothing on the top surface? Tons of side pins can ruin tear your substrate block up correct?  I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong myself, so I don't know what to do. I did the unmodified (unBODified) tub tek, spawned straight to fruiting, the lid allowing FAE, and 12/12 light dark cycle. Those knots have been there the last few days on the surface with no change, that's my concern, but yet it looks like I'm about to get side pin city...


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Re: Okay to add light dry verm layer to monotub 9 days in? [Re: DNA_Trip]
    #26353352 - 11/30/19 08:09 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Be patient, leave it alone. The only thing you'll do by fucking with it is ruin your surface conditions. 9 days isn't long.


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Re: Okay to add light dry verm layer to monotub 9 days in? [Re: Grimsweeper]
    #26353357 - 11/30/19 08:11 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

So you're saying don't add a sprinkle of dry verm to the surface? Just leave it be still with all the side pinning I am starting to see?


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Re: Okay to add light dry verm layer to monotub 9 days in? [Re: DNA_Trip]
    #26353377 - 11/30/19 08:22 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Side pins won't hurt anything and there's nothing you can do to change anything at this point.


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Re: Okay to add light dry verm layer to monotub 9 days in? [Re: Grimsweeper]
    #26353394 - 11/30/19 08:38 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah dude, just leave it be. Don’t take the lid off either. It looks good


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Re: Okay to add light dry verm layer to monotub 9 days in? [Re: Grimsweeper]
    #26353427 - 11/30/19 09:15 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)


You seriously have got too relax dude, I wasn't even half as worried as you and my tub didn't look like yours until around 15 days. And sure as shit 3 days later I got a TON of pins...if you want those side pins, then keep fucking with your tub...otherwise just put your lid on and leave it alone for a week.


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Re: Okay to add light dry verm layer to monotub 9 days in? [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
    #26353448 - 11/30/19 09:28 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

So that's the thing, I haven't even been fucking with it dude. I made sure not to do anything at all like you chose to -  tearing holes, taking lid off, spraying, misting when not needed, whatever all the messing that you said you did. I've been keep mine in the exact same conditions, and just want to ask questions about certain concerns I am having. I haven't fucked with it, it's been chilling with the lid on, and I'm noticing a couple side pins, and trying to find out how to remedy that. Is that such a bad thing or concern to ask? Because I consider fucking and messing around with it to be tearing it apart by drilling holes, misting when you don't need to, and whatever else you did to yours.  If your reply isn't going to be helping me in the help I am seeking about the side pins then please don't answer to just pass judgement. I'm taking your mistakes as a learning experience, but this whole thing is a learning experience for everyone, especially us newbies, so there's nothing wrong with wanting to get advice from more highly experienced cultivators about the side pinning I am seeing.


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Re: Okay to add light dry verm layer to monotub 9 days in? [Re: DNA_Trip] * 1
    #26353459 - 11/30/19 09:33 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

There’s never a need to sprinkle anything onto a colonized mono


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Re: Okay to add light dry verm layer to monotub 9 days in? [Re: DNA_Trip]
    #26353502 - 11/30/19 10:09 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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So that's the thing, I haven't even been fucking with it dude. I made sure not to do anything at all like you chose to -  tearing holes, taking lid off, spraying, misting when not needed, whatever all the messing that you said you did. I've been keep mine in the exact same conditions, and just want to ask questions about certain concerns I am having. I haven't fucked with it, it's been chilling with the lid on, and I'm noticing a couple side pins, and trying to find out how to remedy that. Is that such a bad thing or concern to ask? Because I consider fucking and messing around with it to be tearing it apart by drilling holes, misting when you don't need to, and whatever else you did to yours.  If your reply isn't going to be helping me in the help I am seeking about the side pins then please don't answer to just pass judgement. I'm taking your mistakes as a learning experience, but this whole thing is a learning experience for everyone, especially us newbies, so there's nothing wrong with wanting to get advice from more highly experienced cultivators about the side pinning I am seeing.




Relax brotha! I was not trying to "pass judgment " or what ever, I dont know why you think i was attacking you, i was/am not..

This is just like 2nd post you've made where you're really worried about your surface conditions and now you were talking about throwing some dry verm ontop...basically it sounds like you are uber worries about it, to the point where you (granted you have not yet) are considering doing unconventional things to mitigate your "problems "

Sorry if you were offended by me telling you need to chill out, IMHO you do...

I'm just trying to save you some of my recent headaches with the anxiety I had over the exact same issues you think your having...hows that such a bad thing?

Sorry of I wasn't more direct about asdressing your side pin "problem" ...

But My advice for your "problem" is still dont fuck with it...that's not passing judgement either...


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Re: Okay to add light dry verm layer to monotub 9 days in? [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
    #26353503 - 11/30/19 10:10 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I had like 15 side pins and I was freaking out just like you...the. 2 days later i had a 100 on the top...not too shabby if u ask me.

Have u even seen side pins yet?


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Re: Okay to add light dry verm layer to monotub 9 days in? [Re: feldman114] * 1
    #26353511 - 11/30/19 10:16 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

You could but I doubt it would change much if anything

Looks like the top is about to explode with pins too, bet you’ll be pleasantly surprised.




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There’s never a need to sprinkle anything onto a colonized mono



  Late casing is definitely a thing. And there are definitely good reasons for it. Specifically to prevent blobbing with swpe


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Re: Okay to add light dry verm layer to monotub 9 days in? [Re: AyePlus]
    #26353517 - 11/30/19 10:19 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

You will be begging for contams at that point OP


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Re: Okay to add light dry verm layer to monotub 9 days in? [Re: AyePlus]
    #26353524 - 11/30/19 10:24 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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You could but I doubt it would change much if anything

Looks like the top is about to explode with pins too, bet you’ll be pleasantly surprised.









So in other words, dont fuck with it?...


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Re: Okay to add light dry verm layer to monotub 9 days in? [Re: Thekd95]
    #26353533 - 11/30/19 10:27 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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You will be begging for contams at that point OP




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Re: Okay to add light dry verm layer to monotub 9 days in? [Re: AyePlus]
    #26353546 - 11/30/19 10:31 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Ha ha I just saw someone ask the same question in an extension of this community the general answer was the same I’m giving to you post pics when you get fruits


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Re: Okay to add light dry verm layer to monotub 9 days in? [Re: Thekd95] * 1
    #26353563 - 11/30/19 10:37 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Dont care where you read it, it’s 110% bullshit.

The only thing that causes contams in properly prepared bulk is contaminated spawn.

Verm is inert and wont ever cause contams. Its a mineral and doesnt have enough nutrition to allow anything to germinate or grow.  I regularly add untreated verm straight from the bag to my coir if I prep a little wet due to inconsistencies in the coir, no issues.

Once more for the people in the back
The only thing that causes contams in properly prepared bulk is contaminated spawn.


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Re: Okay to add light dry verm layer to monotub 9 days in? [Re: AyePlus]
    #26353605 - 11/30/19 10:56 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Okay to add light dry verm layer to monotub 9 days in? [Re: AyePlus]
    #26353688 - 11/30/19 11:36 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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You could but I doubt it would change much if anything

Looks like the top is about to explode with pins too, bet you’ll be pleasantly surprised.




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There’s never a need to sprinkle anything onto a colonized mono



  Late casing is definitely a thing. And there are definitely good reasons for it. Specifically to prevent blobbing with swpe




Late casing is not sprinkling DRY verm onto a sub.


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