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OfflineFungiMaster
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Try to get psychiatrist to open up
    #26350856 - 11/28/19 04:40 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Hi,

The current doctor I see is interesting, quirky sorta. I have a couple questions to ask him so the appointment should have some substance.


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Re: Try to get psychiatrist to open up [Re: FungiMaster]
    #26350878 - 11/28/19 05:02 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

So what topic do you intend to discuss?


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Re: Try to get psychiatrist to open up [Re: FungiMaster] * 3
    #26350984 - 11/28/19 06:33 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

If the psychiatrist resists answering your questions, be sure to ask about childhood trauma and if they were breastfed by their biological mother.


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Re: Try to get psychiatrist to open up [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #26350999 - 11/28/19 06:41 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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If the psychiatrist resists answering your questions, be sure to ask about childhood trauma and if they were breastfed by their biological mother.




Lol. He answeres questions just is sorta dorky. Plus he only checks in and doesn't chat much, so I have lots to talk about Monday.


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Re: Try to get psychiatrist to open up [Re: FungiMaster]
    #26351266 - 11/28/19 11:20 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

You’re not there to try and get the psychiatrist to open up, you want to ask them questions about the treatment options they offer.

You tell them how you are and how you’ve been so that they can assess you and your situation and give suggestions of what your next steps could be, based on their often 15 year+ record of experience in their field.

You are not testing the psychiatrist, you are supposed to ask for his or her advice.

You have to be open with them. 

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Re: Try to get psychiatrist to open up [Re: RJ Tubs 202] * 1
    #26351340 - 11/29/19 01:19 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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If the psychiatrist resists answering your questions, be sure to ask about childhood trauma and if they were breastfed by their biological mother.




Spot on!

Also, if you're both male, and he starts getting pushy, just say "I'm sorry you're mad at your dad, bro."


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Re: Try to get psychiatrist to open up [Re: Loaded Shaman] * 3
    #26351533 - 11/29/19 06:53 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

The whole idea of psychiatry is to suppress LSD.

The whole idea of the drug market that is not LSD is to create reasons for the public and the government to keep LSD illegal.

Antipsychotics will begin destroying brain tissue within the first hour.

It's worse than being stupid. You are inside that issue. You are information. Antipsychotics erase you.

Do

NOT

Take

ANTIPSYCHOTICS, ever.

If you think you are crazy and you have taken LSD, watch Massive Attack music videos and pay attention.

Your other hope is to just surrender to Lucy. The trip never ends, you just have to adjust your lifestyle.

Seriously. Walking into the mental health system and psychiatry is about as bad as walking into a modern neurological concentration camp.



Good luck. I warned you.


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Re: Try to get psychiatrist to open up [Re: hexagon bones] * 2
    #26351679 - 11/29/19 09:39 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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hexagon bones said:

Walking into the mental health system and psychiatry is about as bad as walking into a modern neurological concentration camp.




I appreciate your ability to be honest with sharing your opinions. I fully agree on this one. 



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Re: Try to get psychiatrist to open up [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #26351999 - 11/29/19 01:09 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks!

But,

we must be merciless in our counter-offensive. They say, "empathy is the poor man's cocaine."

Their tactic has been utter brutality and hatred, that appears to its victims as seductive. That's worse than merciless.

So we must at least be merciless when we fight back.

Freefall collapse of the mental health system is our goal. Let it be known.


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Re: Try to get psychiatrist to open up [Re: FungiMaster] * 1
    #26352297 - 11/29/19 03:44 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

As regards therapists of all sorts:
They are not there to be your friend.
One pays for their time whether they help or not.
In my experience they are mostly useless.
If they are of help, it may be a slow process and expensive.
If one sees them regularly just because one is lonely, it will be very expensive.

There is usually no way to know before hand :
firstly  if they are any good,
and secondly if they have a good track record, for your type of issue.
They may have helped other people, but not be able to deal with your issues.

But it is not like hiring a carpenter, the advantages are all in 'their court'.
One must pay for every minute, unless your folks or insurance cover it.
And there are no guarantees.
Getting them to open up would seem to change none of this.
Freudian psychoanalysts are guaranteed not to open up.

I do not view them as dangerous.
Medical doctors actually kill people, from time to time.

It is of course possible to get lucky.
The simpler the problem, and the more open one is, the better the chances of that happening would seem to be.


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Re: Try to get psychiatrist to open up [Re: laughingdog]
    #26352308 - 11/29/19 03:58 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Shop around. I've seen three therapists over the course of my life. One was batshit crazy. One was judgmental. He actually put his glasses down low and frowned as he looked down his nose at me. The third was a nice calm soft spoken chap. I didn't get the idea he was wise and sagely but I felt comfortable talking to him and his calm demeanor was genuine. Along with certain standards of confidentiality and adhering to the rules of a therapy model that's pretty reasonable. I had something to get off my chest but beyond that I didn't see the value in multiple visits.

I've read that you shouldn't tell them you want to murder someone or harm yourself, unless you are suicidal and want professional help with it. Perhaps someone else can chime in on that.


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Re: Try to get psychiatrist to open up [Re: Rahz]
    #26352344 - 11/29/19 04:17 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

You're not crazy. No one is crazy.

There are sick people, an emotional-conceptual-cognitive sickness like being jealous of chicken's eggs because they taunt your homosexual inability to either be reproductive or fertile.


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Re: Try to get psychiatrist to open up [Re: hexagon bones]
    #26352357 - 11/29/19 04:22 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

It's all just words we use to describe behavior.


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Re: Try to get psychiatrist to open up [Re: Rahz]
    #26352376 - 11/29/19 04:28 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Try to get psychiatrist to open up [Re: hexagon bones] * 4
    #26352541 - 11/29/19 06:01 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

The whole idea of psychiatry is to suppress LSD.

Uh, no. Psychiatry predates LSD and the medical subspecialty is not particularly focused on LSD users. At long last, the medical establishment is once again exploring uses for psychedelics and empathogens which is a good thing because I've been around long enough to remember when LSD was not illegal, when it was made illegal, and when President Nixon formed the DEA.

Sometimes, anti-psychotics are useful and indeed necessary for subduing hypermania or an acute psychotic break. I do not have a medical license but I have referred to psychiatrists who do when someone's life hung in the balance. Anti-psychotics do not destroy brain tissue but an acute psychotic break can traumatize an individual for years or decades causing all manner of misery. Perhaps you yourself have experienced mishandling by the psychiatric establishment, which would be sad and unfortunate. 

I have a real issue with the former wife of a Shroomerite who became a Physician's Assistant, who is working under a psychiatrist and who has bought into their pharmacological model (vs. psychotherapy). I agree that psychiatric medicines are to be avoided, but so should questionable practices that tend to eventuate in substance-related psychoses. Some psychiatrists like R.D. Laing, Fritz Perls, and of course Stanislav Grof are names in psychiatry that should be well respected. Psychiatry is not intrinsically bad, a mind-control conspiracy, or any other conspiracy type paranoid fantasy.


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Re: Try to get psychiatrist to open up [Re: MarkostheGnostic] * 1
    #26352705 - 11/29/19 07:35 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

You're pretty programmed Markos.

Perhaps by literature, but programmed nonetheless.

Psychiatry anticipated loose ends in consciousness. LSD is the biggest loose end ever presented to the secret government controlling the hopelessness of mankind ever since the Jews collapsed Egypt.

The first antipsychotic was formulated in the 50s, right after LSD was discovered.

Psychiatry before LSD was designed to keep the population fearful of breaking from their psycholinguistic programming.

I mean even after the collapse of Egypt they painted and sculpted interracial gangbangs on the pyramid walls and elsewhere.

Do you have any idea of the neurological assault that has lit up since LSD was discovered?

Imagine a blonde white babe getting her head slammed and crushed against a seedy underpass wall on live television fed to a kindergarten.

That's about the level of hatred that has been unleashed against white people.

LSD was discovered by a Jewish scientist and is the Jewish redemption for what the Jews have done to the white Egyptians since the collapse of the ancient paradises.

All antipsychotics do is suppress the active receptors indicated in LSD use.

All any non-LSD drug except psilocybin and DMT do is mimic LSD effects poorly and fragmentedly with massive addiction potential and neurodegeneration.

That's it,

that's the drug market,

and that's psychiatry.

Stan Grof has zero power.


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Re: Try to get psychiatrist to open up [Re: hexagon bones] * 5
    #26354633 - 11/30/19 08:53 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I am educated, not "programmed." You are wrong across the board newbie, and what is more your words merely suggest paranoia based on falsehoods and conspiracy. Of course this anti-Semitic sentiment stands out as particularly poignant in its overt paranoia and error. Dr. Albert Hofmann is the discoverer of LSD-25, a man I corresponded with by letter no doubt before you were even conceived.  LSD was discovered by a Jewish scientist and is the Jewish redemption for what the Jews have done to the white Egyptians since the collapse of the ancient paradises. Dr. Hofmann was Swiss, his mother Protestant and his father Catholic, not Jewish. https://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/30/world/europe/30hofmann.html ;

LSD-25 was the 25th compound created in Dr. Hofmann's search for an ergot-based migraine medication during his employ with Sandoz Pharmaceuticals, Basal, Switzerland location. (I grew up within eyeshot of Sandoz Pharmaceuticals in E. Hanover, NJ where I made deliveries when I was a driver. I never had their LSD but I did have their Psilocybin. My father took the Sandoz migraine med Cafergot when it came about in the 1950s. You'll notice there is no prescription label on the bottle pictured, which I have as a keepsake).

Educate yourself, drop your accusatory tone, curb your cock-sure confidence in a conspiracy of your own and we might dialogue in the future. :bye:



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Re: Try to get psychiatrist to open up [Re: hexagon bones] * 1
    #26354900 - 12/01/19 02:06 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Killer post as always, Markos.

Quote:

hexagon bones said:
Seriously. Walking into the mental health system and psychiatry is about as bad as walking into a modern neurological concentration camp.




Now THIS I absolutely agree with.


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Re: Try to get psychiatrist to open up [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #26355629 - 12/01/19 01:55 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Killer post indeed, of interest to me & possibly others; as to whether it has any effect on the OP, I have my doubts.


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Re: Try to get psychiatrist to open up [Re: laughingdog]
    #26355640 - 12/01/19 02:07 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Well I see the guy tomorrow Ed is his name. He is sure interesting. Oh well I found a job, trading stock. Since he wanted me to work. So something to talk about. Maybe switching meds even though I don't take them mostly.


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