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Thoughts on this terrarium...
    #26351537 - 11/29/19 06:55 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Don't judge. I am new to the hobby and have quite a few agar dishes and pastys I've been working with to get some clean myc and have successfully inoculated quite a few jars of WBS and various other grains and have recently spawned them to some 27Qt tall shoeboxes with 100% coir, everything seems to be going great and the myc recovered rather quickly. After 3.5 days were not too far off full colonization in one with a few others shortly behind.

While I was waiting on some of my agar to grow out and the grains to start taking I let me reddit side get the best of me and I couldn't resist, I had to try and noc up a bag of Uncle Ben's brown rice I had sitting in the pantry. I took a slightly different approach, instead of inoculating with a syringe, I cut a small opening in the bag and put in a small piece of clean agar and taped it back up with micropore tape.

It fully colonized quickly, but not unusually fast. I opened it up and gave it the sniff test, "Mushrooms alright!" Broke up the block of colonized brown rice and spawned it in this mushroom shaped glass jar I stumbled upon at Goodwill, seemed too cool to pass up.

I spawned to 100% coco coir using a 1:1 ratio then cased it with a thin layer of coir.I am now 2 weeks in, the terrarium is fully colonized and I am just wondering at what point I should be seeing some pinning or even some good knotting as an early sign of pinning. I've been misting and fanning occasionally in the last few days since the top has gotten this far along. Is there any hope for this guy? I knew it would take longer with a casing layer, just wondering if I've stalled it or it my newbie impatience are getting the best of me. Thanks.



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Re: Thoughts on this terrarium... [Re: JohnnyKarate]
    #26351567 - 11/29/19 07:30 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

that jar is  :jennajameson: !!

not an experienced eye to say for sure but i think things look good, maybe a bit dry but hard to tell from photo. i would also expect to see some moisture on the glass and in the lid. its not too close to blown heated air is it? its not pulling away from sides, as in shrinking, but likely that happens more noticeably when pins and fruits start coming in and really suck the moisture out of the sub.

have you tried, or considered, side watering? slowly pour water down the side, let sub soak up what it will in say 3 hours and dump the remainder out so as to not leave standing water and grow a bacterial farm underneath

2 weeks sounds a bit long, but not too long, if that makes sense... saying i'd worry if conditions seemed solid (not too hot, not too cold, good surface conditions) and no pins a month after spawning it. it does appear knots are forming tho.

see what others say:shrug: i'm hoping to see final result of this novelty container grow, will make for a badass nomination to pic or the month for December should it fruit for ya.:awedance:


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Re: Thoughts on this terrarium... [Re: JohnnyKarate]
    #26351599 - 11/29/19 08:17 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Haha thanks, went to Goodwill in search of a dehydrator or anything useful for these endeavors and stumbled upon this little gem. Just couldn't pass it up.

The lid did have an excessive amount of moisture until it started rolling down the sides and pooling on the surface so I gave it a wipe. Probably should try some side watering, there isn't really any gap or space between the sub and the glass, if I just slowly add water and let it soak in from wherever will that suffice you think? I'm just guessing that it won't take water anywhere alone the edge and it'll probably gather an inch or so from the edges.

I'm thinking you're right though, there's a little moisture on the bottom and sides where there are tiny air pockets from consolidation but would most certainly benefit from a small watering.

I did move it to a new location recently, which is closer to a vent but not that close. It's possible there was a bit to much of an air current there and that's causing the sides of the terrarium to dry up more than when I first spawned it. Thanks for the input as usual, you two are rockstars  :rockon:


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Re: Thoughts on this terrarium... [Re: JohnnyKarate]
    #26351687 - 11/29/19 09:45 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

yah, pooling on surface is not good, and water amount would be very small, like 10cc *if* it slides down side to bottom, should come up no more than 1/4 inch imo. syringe may help control watering for a slow thin stream run along side, perhaps even put bevel to glass down near sub itself to help keep it from pooling on surface anywhere. can just dab up water with paper towel if it does not soak in or run down side to bottom tho.

reading again two writeups i recommend often, CBK's bottom watering tek (were using for our cakes now) and Violet's reasoning behind why its good.

I see i may be a bit rash in recommend this, as the sides are not pulling away yet. but it is 100% colonized so likely using tap water is fine as myc is established, and if sub is nice and saturated then no water will absorb so not too worried as long you dont leave standing water for too long (change daily seems the vouchsafe from both linked above). doesn't really solve dry surface conditions tho, so as CBK recommends, still do your misting (and fanning, altho FAE seems high so maybe not so much "fanning") as necessary as well.

thanks for the compliment, passed on to better half that rocks my world daily, she appreciates:dancer:


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Re: Thoughts on this terrarium... [Re: TeaforTwo] * 1
    #26352550 - 11/29/19 06:06 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I didn't go as far as bottom watering yet. Like you said, it is long, but not too long and since I am seeing some water droplets and moisture on the surface I am just going to continue to mist and watch the FAE on this puppy as well as move it to a more still area of the house.


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Re: Thoughts on this terrarium... [Re: JohnnyKarate]
    #26352560 - 11/29/19 06:14 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

The surface looks way different I’m the first picture. The other ones it looks ok, I wouldn’t give it any more water yet, maybe put foil around the rim kinda crunched up a little so you can set the top of the jar on and it wont fit flush so you’ll get more FAE.


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Re: Thoughts on this terrarium... [Re: A.k.a]
    #26353058 - 11/30/19 02:21 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Just leave it alone. 8-10 days after casing you should have primordia. Don't know how that jar breathes but I suspect you need more fae.
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Re: Thoughts on this terrarium... [Re: spiritlands]
    #26353525 - 11/30/19 10:25 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

A.k.a. brings up a really good point, i focused on the look of pic 1 (far left) seeing what i think is dry. but is not so apparent in other pics- are all pics taken at same time/day?

i've gotten pretty paranoid about watering enough. having a bit of a struggle here with cakes in HC- thing is too big imo (80q tub) and seeing sides of tub get dry quick (lid on and latched even) i keep wanting to mist. did bottom water the cakes producing fruits yesterday and it soaked right up quick. gonna relocate HC to kitchen table.

this is a good thread by ComeBackKid on proper surface conditions, may help give you tips on what and when as even the best pics cannot replace being there in person, imo.

being two weeks in kinda hints to me that its not liking conditions very much or them knots would go primordial on ya, with pins poppin all over by now. maybe lid off and lotsa misting (as required) will instigate next stage of growth. if lid is collect a lot of moisture, as you mentioned led you to wipe it off from the drips and runoff, it may be good to use a flat top that can be cracked for FAE to keep drops from falling on sub making good spaces for bacteria to gain advantage (and drops on caps make some pretty gross bacterial damages).


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Re: Thoughts on this terrarium... [Re: JohnnyKarate]
    #26353559 - 11/30/19 10:36 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

You could post here too..

Id just crack the lid a little around day 10 but thats just me.

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Re: Thoughts on this terrarium... [Re: YogiBear]
    #26365733 - 12/06/19 06:59 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

A.k.a said:
The surface looks way different I’m the first picture. The other ones it looks ok, I wouldn’t give it any more water yet, maybe put foil around the rim kinda crunched up a little so you can set the top of the jar on and it wont fit flush so you’ll get more FAE.




Sorry for the delay, had quite the week. Those were taken at the same time with my phone, maybe my position with the window changed the lighting drastically from one pic to the other. I'll try and post a few more pictures soon.

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You could post here too..

Id just crack the lid a little around day 10 but thats just me.

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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20775168




I may post there tomorrow when i get some new pics taken.

I'm thinking its not liking the FAE either so I just swapped out the lid for quite a few layers of cheesecloth rubber banded around the top. Hopefully that will up the FAE and I can mist as necessary.

It hasn't made much progress this week though. I did continue to mist and fan 3-4 times a day while continuing to use the lid.


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