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Is sterilization technically impossible due to Bacillus?
    #26351473 - 11/29/19 05:17 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panspermia

"At least one report finds that endospores from a type of Bacillus bacteria found in Morocco can survive being heated to 420 °C (788 °F), making the argument for Panspermia even stronger."

Reading about panspermia theory and came across this bit of knowledge.

Now obviously from our experiences we know 15psi steam works. But maybe it doesn't in Morocco?


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Re: Is sterilization technically impossible due to Bacillus? [Re: NegEntropy]
    #26351555 - 11/29/19 07:14 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Our grains don't have these rarely found extremophiles. The bacillus we have on grains are ubiquitous species.

When autoclaves get validated they use some of the hardest to kill species of endospore in a packet and then incubate it after a sterilization cycle to see if anything grows. 15m at 15psi in any working sterilizer takes care of a packet full ten million or more CFUs of hard to kill endospores.

So yes there's ones that exist that wouldn't die at 15@15 but you're not harvesting grains from geothermal vents


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Re: Is sterilization technically impossible due to Bacillus? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26351559 - 11/29/19 07:18 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Also some research shows they exposed them to dry heat temperatures of 420C not wet heat like a sterilizer uses.

Dry heat sucks for example
350F for two hours does what
250F wet heat does in 15 minutes


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Re: Is sterilization technically impossible due to Bacillus? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26351618 - 11/29/19 08:40 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I appreciate the education.:grin:

Wasn't aware that steam was so much more effective, and naively thought endospore death was merely a function of temperature.

And I don't suppose even the most freedom lovingest American will be farming grains in geothermal vents... unless you tell them they can't.

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