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Re: What aspect of the psychedelic experience are you most grateful for? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #26349702 - 11/27/19 11:14 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, I get that "enhanced self" on shrooms and LSD. On shrooms, I definitely feel like a "gentle female" sort of theme, like a female guiding force, showing me the way almost. Female spirit guide almost, especially African Transkei. Something special about that strain.

On smoked DMT, I get more of an alien sort of feel to it. An other-worldly feel. Like shrooms but much weirder in "Psychedelic Spirit Force". Very interesting substance. I think DMT was made by aliens. Would explain why the experience is so other-worldly.

Psychedelics have never steered me wrong. A couple traumatic experiences but overall, very beneficial to my life in many ways.


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Re: What aspect of the psychedelic experience are you most grateful for? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26349790 - 11/28/19 01:03 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

One time on acid I was playing super smash bros, and idk how, it never happened again, but it was literally like I could predict every move my 2 other friends were about to make, I'm not even that good but I totally just got into a "flow" of sorts and It became effortless to demolish them that entire game. They seriously did not land a single move on me. Really wish I could do that again lol.

But for real my favorite part of psychedelics has already been said, to be able to learn about myself, feels like an intimate relationship with my higher self. I gain so much insight into the nature of what being a human is, how we are all flawed and nobody is perfect. Loosens the ego, and allows me to see people with more love in my heart, because really, I'm just another them, with a different body, different life experiences, different chemistry etc.

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Re: What aspect of the psychedelic experience are you most grateful for? [Re: LittleDipster] * 1
    #26349889 - 11/28/19 03:43 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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One time on acid I was playing super smash bros, and idk how, it never happened again, but it was literally like I could predict every move my 2 other friends were about to make, I'm not even that good but I totally just got into a "flow" of sorts and It became effortless to demolish them that entire game. They seriously did not land a single move on me. Really wish I could do that again lol.

But for real my favorite part of psychedelics has already been said, to be able to learn about myself, feels like an intimate relationship with my higher self. I gain so much insight into the nature of what being a human is, how we are all flawed and nobody is perfect. Loosens the ego, and allows me to see people with more love in my heart, because really, I'm just another them, with a different body, different life experiences, different chemistry etc.

I know y'all know.




Dude YES. I have the same experiences, especially on my last pan cyan trip. I swear I was seeing 2 seconds into the future on everything. It's almost hard to describe because it's happening before you're consciously aware of it...like consciousness shifting gears...


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Re: What aspect of the psychedelic experience are you most grateful for? [Re: Loaded Shaman] * 2
    #26350043 - 11/28/19 06:58 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

can you imagine, I never played any video games, though I have made my living mostly in software development (since 1980), while acid-etching my personality through most of the last 50 years.
I don't mind the screen while stoned, but I am absorbed in other things.
LSD has been personal, about reconnection with my senses and my greater mind, the ocean where we normally bathe in dreams, or the 4th dimensional thicket of just being.


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Re: What aspect of the psychedelic experience are you most grateful for? [Re: redgreenvines] * 1
    #26350068 - 11/28/19 07:19 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Psychedelics helped me change my path in life from survival and success to exploration, awe, and connection.

Every trip is also like a mental cleanse. I like the analogy Pollan mentions in his book:

"Think of the brain as a hill covered in snow, and thoughts as sleds gliding down that hill. As one sled after another goes down the hill a small number of main trails will appear in the snow. And every time a new sled goes down, it will be drawn into preexisting trails, almost like a magnet. In time it becomes more and more difficult to glide down the hill on any other path or in a different direction. Think of psychedelics as temporarily flattening the snow. The deeply worn trails disappear, and suddenly the sled can go in other directions, exploring new landscapes and, literally, creating new pathways."


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Re: What aspect of the psychedelic experience are you most grateful for? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26350097 - 11/28/19 07:34 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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can you imagine, I never played any video games, though I have made my living mostly in software development (since 1980), while acid-etching my personality through most of the last 50 years.
I don't mind the screen while stoned, but I am absorbed in other things.
LSD has been personal, about reconnection with my senses and my greater mind, the ocean where we normally bathe in dreams, or the 4th dimensional thicket of just being.




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Re: What aspect of the psychedelic experience are you most grateful for? [Re: Loaded Shaman] * 2
    #26350228 - 11/28/19 09:12 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

When I was young, I was afraid of many things. I was curious and fascinated by all of them.
I wanted to understand everything-- I was in love with learning about the world around me. I didn't relate well to other kids.
I didn't play sports, I read books. Hundreds of books. Science fiction became my love, because it told all the deep, fantastic, moral and ethical stories of our real world with different clothes--releasing the lessons from the assumptions and the trappings our culture paints everything with from birth (both the good and not so good).

Those stories let my imagination build universes...and I did.

Then as a teen I found music-- it spoke to my soul. It sang to me about what love could be, and about the deep pain and loneliness to live without. It brought me excitement, and passion-- my emotions had color where they had once been only outlines. I grew up because of music. I knew what to look for in love because of music. I knew light and dark because of music.

When I hit my 20's, I was alone-- after diving into drinking at 21 and drowning in it, I was muddy and unprepared to move further. I was an alcoholic.

Then I found video games. They were the stories of my books and the living sights and sounds of my music and imagination... laid before me in a spectacular, immersive, and interactive way. I found solace and joy in the new pursuits in new worlds. I grew to love the authors of these games, for what they had given to me, and also for what they helped take away.

Then, as I passed the quarter of my century, I fell in love with a girl-- she became my world. Pulled me back to here, and sent me to the moon. I didn't need the fantasy of my games because she was the ultimate joy. Living love, passion, humor, and a companionship I had learned about-- guessed about-- dreamed about in books, and music, and years of building up to what could be.

It became real. Then she brought you to me.

My very first trip was with her, and I remember the night. We stopped halfway to my house because we were so excited to get started. We measured out hers in a church parking lot, and then measured out mine. It was 2.09g. We ate them and continued the drive-- 10 minutes to home and we were smoking cigarettes and laughing the entire way there, giddy with anticipation.

We'd already assembled a 6 hour long playlist, with the best and most perfect songs for an experience we had no preparation for-- because until you know, you just don't know.

That trip changed my life.

As entirely as by books as a child. As completely as my music did as a teen.
As powerfully as love brought my life to a pinnacle of being... psychedelic mushrooms took every one of these cherished moments, movements, and revelations and brought them into The One-- the purpose-- the thread that runs through the buttons, beads, and tapestry of our lives. It let me see The Truth-- The Meaning--  The Message-- The Majesty of Life.

You ask, "What aspect of the psychedelic experience are you most grateful for?"

How can I answer such a simple question-- but that it saved my life-- by showing it to me for the first time... that it gave me to know why we love, why we yearn, why we cry, and why we learn.

I thank you for the question-- and I thank God for the answer.

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Re: What aspect of the psychedelic experience are you most grateful for? [Re: coAsTal]
    #26350271 - 11/28/19 09:35 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

beautifully said, and surely resonated with me


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Re: What aspect of the psychedelic experience are you most grateful for? [Re: coAsTal]
    #26350528 - 11/28/19 12:25 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

What a great story. Thanks for sharing that :awepreciation:

And the video game "2 seconds into the future thing". Ive experienced that too! I call it "Entering The Zone" as you just "know" whats going to happen next, completely focused on the game without even consciously thinking about it, predicting accurately into the immediate future, like a newly found psychic ability, powered directly from psychedelics. It really is something unique.


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Re: What aspect of the psychedelic experience are you most grateful for? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 2
    #26350722 - 11/28/19 02:50 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

That's how it was when I was just on my A game in Halo that night. I know I wasn't on a psych but times like that are not just repeatable. They come around very rarely.


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It's just a shot away..


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Re: What aspect of the psychedelic experience are you most grateful for? [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 2
    #26351162 - 11/28/19 09:10 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Hey good thread Bill. :cookiemonster:

I had to think about it for a long time 'cause well, you know, there are so many aspects to psychedelic experience, endless reimagninings and openings, endless paths to go down, all beginning with the same stimulus (in my case mushrooms almost exclusively).

It might be the sense of oneness that they create.  It might be the connection with nature spirits and the intelligence in the natural world otherwise seldom seen.  And it might be simply the transcendental nature of the trip, the way it unfolds in so many ways simultaneously but always brings you back to that oneness.

OTOH it's possibly how they affect the world itself, via synchronicity and the increased emotional connection - how they make everything easy that you otherwise might have to work at.  How they bring purpose and completeness.  A kind of order that isn't imposed from outside but that arises from within, spontaneously.  How they put you right into the deep waters of the Tao, the river with no source.

Or more likely it's just what they do to music. OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Psychedelic music is the single greatest creation ever, and you know this when you hear it in Hendrix and others. I can't begin to describe what that means to me, even though I have hundreds of hours of tapes of guitar compositions made while playing shroomed.  Some of that stuff is epic.  But none of it would be possible without mushrooms.

Come to think of it, though, it's maybe the visuals, the visions, the opening of the ineffable pathways of consciousness into hyperspace and so far beyond ordinary reality.  Here we are, embedded in this infinite matrix of consciousness, and all we can care about is the ordinary shit we think of as life.  The doorway to spirit consciousness that takes you into the shamanic world can't be pigeonholed into anybody's politics. :laugh2:

Or perhaps it's the enlarged perspective you return with after a good trip, while the afterglow is still in your head and you see clearly again.

I think maybe the last, yeah, that's probably what I'm most grateful for.  Uhm, until the next time, anyway.

:goodday:

Oh wait, did I mention how good they make you FEEL?  That's probably the best part - just becoming god again, anytime you want. :awesomenod:


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Re: What aspect of the psychedelic experience are you most grateful for? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26351295 - 11/28/19 11:54 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Awesome post, PS. All of those things are worth being grateful for. If I had to pick,gun to my head from your list, I would probably pick the visions. They are so big, right from deep space. Its as if you got rocketed out of the world into a whole different one, to say the least.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: What aspect of the psychedelic experience are you most grateful for? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #26351310 - 11/29/19 12:33 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I love our psychedelic community :heart:

They have the power to change the world, if the public was given enough education and knowledge on the subject. Maybe one day...


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Re: What aspect of the psychedelic experience are you most grateful for? [Re: LittleDipster]
    #26351333 - 11/29/19 01:12 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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I love our psychedelic community :heart:

They have the power to change the world, if the public was given enough education and knowledge on the subject. Maybe one day...





The reason why i dont believe psychedelics will ever catch on is because how fucking real they are. What i mean by that is..spirituality of any kind and truth of any kind is not possible without psychedelics. people do not want the true spirituality and the real truth. they are afraid of it. You want the truth? THEY CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH! That is why i dont have much faith in psychedelics changing the world. i mean you can literally go up to people and say "if you eat this mushroom..or take a couple hits of this dmt..you will be shown alternate universes and ultimate truths you cant even begin to imagine...you can tell them that...and they will just shrug their shoulders and continue on with their day. You need to be called to this stuff, apparently.

thats just my take on it. its a pessimistic one, but its just a take i have based on what i see and how i have seen people react when faced with this stuff.

its almost as if psychedelics are so great, that people refuse to believe they can exist. When you tell them it does exist, they cant comprehend how real you are being.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: What aspect of the psychedelic experience are you most grateful for? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #26351334 - 11/29/19 01:15 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Cities are decriminalizing mushrooms and ayahuasca, so that's pretty cool. But yeah I think your right, people love the boxes they live in


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Re: What aspect of the psychedelic experience are you most grateful for? [Re: LittleDipster]
    #26351341 - 11/29/19 01:21 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

i mean the internet and decriminalizing will help, but i think it only will speed up the process of giving psychedelics to people who were going to eventually try them anyway. which is still good, but i dont think it will create many people who were closed to the idea to eventually wanting to become a shaman :lol:


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: What aspect of the psychedelic experience are you most grateful for? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #26351587 - 11/29/19 08:03 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I don't see it this way at all. Just look at Marijuana, it wasn't long ago I was a highschooler going to Hash Bash every year dreaming one day it would be legal, not even 10 years after graduation that dream is becoming a reality. The thing is, people are growing increasingly skeptical of the government, of big pharma, people are sick of watching loved ones suffer, even Trump made it legal to try experimental drugs if you've got a terminal prognosis already. these are the steps we need in the right direction. I don't think it's too crazy to think there will be decriminalization of ALL drugs in the US in my lifetime. Millenials are fucking pissed about the failed war on drugs, and countries that focused efforts on addiction therapy instead of criminalizing addicts have shown far more success in having a healthy population. not to mention how much better suited that money could be spent. Psilocybin was legalized in Colorado right after pot, who would've seen that coming? FDA just approved breakthrough therapy for it in manic depression studies. The floodgates are opening up, whether it ends up completely legal or atleast becomes regularly used in therapy, things seem to be moving swiftly in a positive direction.



I grew up very right winged and rigid, anti drug, and straight edge. One hit of pot changed all of that as everything I felt I had known turned out to be a lie. I went from being one of the biggest anti drug preachers, to Pro 420 movement overnight and have been searching out answers instead of clashing with opposing views since. well, now I clash with the people who used to be me, but knowing how I was, I see hope for the world.


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Re: What aspect of the psychedelic experience are you most grateful for? [Re: 330ci] * 1
    #26351601 - 11/29/19 08:23 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

marijuana had such a greater cult following before it became legalized. Weed was blowing up whether it became legal or not. Weed is looked at as a social and everyday type thing. mushrooms are not.


when mushrooms were sold in Amsterdam, did it become a huge thing? Nah.

the problem is, people do not see the risk being worth the reward when taking mushrooms. the risk of "bad trip maaan" isnt worth the "silliness" they think it induces. With weed, there is no risk virtually in the public's eyes.

also, tripping is a young mans game. or atleast thats the perception. Do you know how many people have tried telling me, a 28 year old, that i was too old to trip and it was only for highschoolers? when people hit their 30's...they come up with the excuse "im too old for that shit man i just smoke weed"

so weed has many advantages to catch on than psychs do.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


Edited by Bill_Oreilly (11/29/19 08:56 AM)


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Re: What aspect of the psychedelic experience are you most grateful for? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #26351683 - 11/29/19 09:43 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Another thing I am noticing as of late is how people love to say "my dreams are crazy enough! I don't need psychedelics."

Also not even in the context of psychedelic use people try to boost their ego of how "crazy they are" by saying how crazy their dreams are. Also, people like to say "I can't shut down my brain from thinking at night! It gives me insomnia" it's like good for you dude


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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    #26351772 - 11/29/19 10:42 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I would have to agree bill, marijuana's properties as a mild psychedelic make it the perfect drug for widespread recreational abuse. Mushrooms and other more powerful psychedelics will never be as prevalent in society as weed but that's for the best, as you said, most people cannot handle the truth.


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