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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: meltdowner]
    #26354455 - 11/30/19 06:48 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

My point was, and still is. Muslim and close minded people(muslims, opus dei, neonazis,antifas etc) are a threat to anyone who doesn't fit their rules. Trans are a group that doesn't, but in western society almost nobody does.

Then i put examples of why your statistics meant nothing and then argument that even if they did it could not prove anything because statistics need the be obscenely large to become a proof.

Then i also spoke about why trans aren't forced to become whores and how it is mainly easy money, not a form of slavery and spoke about my personal experience on the matter.


You can keep separating in tiny boxes of similar people putting labels to differentiate one to another or you can try to find another another alies with the same objectives without focusing on your differences.


Still, when i read info here from america software developers earn more than software developers here, and you have a lot of less employement than we do, at least for young people. Getting money with smaller taxes, no healthcare payments and cheaper houses and food should be easier for you than it is for us. If i had followed another career onstead of engineering i wouldn't earn what i do now, that is why i choose this career and study a few hours per day in my free time to improve the cv
Also, far as i know, i am a millenial but whatever fits your meme. But if we want to take the meme. you just sound like a zoomer.
Do you honestly believe it was a bad advice? you could just said you didn't want to work as a developer.


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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: living_failure]
    #26354464 - 11/30/19 06:52 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: living_failure]
    #26354498 - 11/30/19 07:13 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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living_failure said:
My point was, and still is. Muslim and close minded people(muslims, opus dei, neonazis,antifas etc) are a threat to anyone who doesn't fit their rules. Trans are a group that doesn't, but in western society almost nobody does.
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And if you lived in an insular muslim community in the UK pushing for Sharia law
my concern for would be as high as it is for trans muslims living in those circumstances
or possibly higher, as a blonde haired white guy may have a harder time blending in than someone hiding their gender identity or sexuality

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living_failure said:
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Then i put examples of why your statistics meant nothing and then argument that even if they did it could not prove anything because statistics need the be obscenely large to become a proof.
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Is that how you refer to you telling me about 33 drowning in Spain?

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living_failure said:
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Then i also spoke about why trans aren't forced to become whores and how it is mainly easy money, not a form of slavery and spoke about my personal experience on the matter.
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You referenced your girlfriend in a well-off community
and tried to utilize that to explain away the fact that people who are trans and in less fortunate circumstances
are more likely to turn to prostitution

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living_failure said:
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You can keep separating in tiny boxes of similar people putting labels to differentiate one to another or you can try to find another another alies with the same objectives without focusing on your differences.
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the trans community is already building allies
:shrug:

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living_failure said:
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Still, when i read info here from america software developers earn more than software developers here, and you have a lot of less employement than we do, at least for young people. Getting money with smaller taxes, no healthcare payments and cheaper houses and food should be easier for you than it is for us. If i had followed another career onstead of engineering i wouldn't earn what i do now, that is why i choose this career and study a few hours per day in my free time to improve the cv
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This would all be real insightful if my being an American
or even still living in Montréal where Ubisoft has an office
instead of in an area of small fishing and mining communities in rural Canada

but, believe me, if a company like Bethesda Game Studios hired me on as a writer or quest designer for their games
would jump at the opportunity
tho there would also need to be some way for me to work out moving to Maryland

this is not to say my course is not in the right direction
am studying 3D modelling and design in my personal time
opportunities in my area are not vast, but some pop up
and, at the very least, it will allow me to sell digital artwork on the side and while job hunting

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living_failure said:
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Also, far as i know, i am a millenial but whatever fits your meme. But if we want to take the meme. you just sound like a zoomer.
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living_failure said:
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Do you honestly believe it was a bad advice? you could just said you didn't want to work as a developer.




Think it was prolly great advice to you from you, and respect that you meant it well
like how my father used to give me advice in the form of telling me I should give up on university and everything and follow his footsteps by learning welding or electrician work
but at least your suggestion is adjacent to an area of my interests and existing pursuits


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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: living_failure]
    #26354645 - 11/30/19 09:05 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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living_failure said:
My point was, and still is. Muslim and close minded people(muslims, opus dei, neonazis,antifas etc) are a threat to anyone who doesn't fit their rules. Trans are a group that doesn't, but in western society almost nobody does.

Then i put examples of why your statistics meant nothing and then argument that even if they did it could not prove anything because statistics need the be obscenely large to become a proof.

Then i also spoke about why trans aren't forced to become whores and how it is mainly easy money, not a form of slavery and spoke about my personal experience on the matter.


You can keep separating in tiny boxes of similar people putting labels to differentiate one to another or you can try to find another another alies with the same objectives without focusing on your differences.


Still, when i read info here from america software developers earn more than software developers here, and you have a lot of less employement than we do, at least for young people. Getting money with smaller taxes, no healthcare payments and cheaper houses and food should be easier for you than it is for us. If i had followed another career onstead of engineering i wouldn't earn what i do now, that is why i choose this career and study a few hours per day in my free time to improve the cv
Also, far as i know, i am a millenial but whatever fits your meme. But if we want to take the meme. you just sound like a zoomer.
Do you honestly believe it was a bad advice? you could just said you didn't want to work as a developer.




People will always segregate based on something.  Maybe next year it's not color but ideology.  Maybe it's sexuality.  Maybe it's eye color.

It's human nature and it is natural.


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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: meltdowner] * 1
    #26354676 - 11/30/19 09:32 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Tribalism may be part of human nature, but that doesn’t mean we don’t make subjective decisions about who is in the tribe and who is not. It’s doesn’t mean it is an instinct that should be indulged. Society itself of an exercise in tempering the more destructive elements of human nature.


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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: koods]
    #26354960 - 12/01/19 04:24 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I would argue that society was what allowed the destructive parts of human nature to thrive with more frequency and on a much larger scale.


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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: Near Dylan]
    #26354971 - 12/01/19 04:42 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Pretty damn sure things were a lot more brutal in the past


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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: koods]
    #26354978 - 12/01/19 04:54 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Before society and civilization? Nah. We were just animals doin animal shit, dawg. Killin shit, yeah. But in an animal way. It was civilization that brought warfare, brutality, corruption, all that 'destructive human nature' stuff. If we were hunter gatherers still, the most brutality we'll have ever heard of would've been a dude beatin another dude with a rock cuz he killed the antelope first. Not all the crazy shit that's been going on for the past ~10,000 years.

Society was not some experiment to see if we could be more moral and ethical with our tribe. It was just easier to chill out and wait for food to grow then it was to chase it.


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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: dreamachine]
    #26355113 - 12/01/19 08:00 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

You know how pro Muslim and pro refugee I am?

Muslim refugees must be prevented from taking away LGBTQI+ rights just like Nazis must be prevented from doing the same.

We must all prevent from democratically bringing the new Hitler in power.

Zyklon B smelled of bitter almonds and was a byproduct of the sugar industry.

We need a SWEET solution for our problems, not a BITTER one.

Even if bitter almonds smell surprisingly nice when you expect the worst.

NO MORE WAR.

NOT ANOTHER HOLOCAUST.






And how my dear grandmother used to say: "I'll fucking invoke the War when I bloody well like." :heart:


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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: meltdowner] * 1
    #26355339 - 12/01/19 10:42 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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meltdowner said:
People will always segregate based on something.  Maybe next year it's not color but ideology.  Maybe it's sexuality.  Maybe it's eye color.
It's human nature and it is natural.



That sounds like justification for your own beliefs, since humans defy ‘nature’ all the time.
Did you have to shit but didn’t in your pants in the middle of the store?  Congrats, you’ve defied nature!
I guess you should have just crapped on the floor as nature intended.


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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: Near Dylan]
    #26355508 - 12/01/19 12:42 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Near Dylan said:
Before society and civilization? Nah. We were just animals doin animal shit, dawg. Killin shit, yeah. But in an animal way. It was civilization that brought warfare, brutality, corruption, all that 'destructive human nature' stuff. If we were hunter gatherers still, the most brutality we'll have ever heard of would've been a dude beatin another dude with a rock cuz he killed the antelope first. Not all the crazy shit that's been going on for the past ~10,000 years.

Society was not some experiment to see if we could be more moral and ethical with our tribe. It was just easier to chill out and wait for food to grow then it was to chase it.




Where does the animal kingdom separate and become human civilization?

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In war, they've done the horrific. They've looted food from enemy homes – maybe even killing the women and children. They've employed suicide bombings. They've launched toxic attacks. They've even engaged in cannibalism.

Ants, that is.

Ant colonies bear similarities to human communities: That's been fleshed out and personified before, from sharply delineated social order to death rituals to strict punishment for illicit behavior and treachery.

They've got complex societies with a rigid division of labor and ingrained conventions that let them eat, reproduce and wage war as a single unit. Given their massive populations and, as the famed entomologist E.O. Wilson writes, their "unity of purpose [and] social machinery," it's no surprise that ants are also bonafide masters of war.

"When it comes to war-fighting, ant species are more similar to humans than most other animals, even primates," ecologist and photojournalist Mark Moffett tells Danger Room. "Societies with population explosions, that extend into the millions, are prone to large-scale, intense, tactical warfare. It's a nature of battle only possible among communities with plenty of excess labor force."



ants go to war because they are animals in colonies large enough to do so

cats torture and play with their prey in some pretty brutal manners

corruption at least does not have a match in the animal kingdom to my immediate knowledge tho
the Lion King and Scar betraying Mufasa to take over the pride of course does not count


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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #26356214 - 12/01/19 08:29 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Burke Dennings said:
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Eminence said:
Every now and then I find myself siding with Muslims




Probably more than you realize, there’s a lot of similarities between Christian conservatism and Islam.




The difference is that a Christian will refuse to bake you a wedding cake the Muslim will not only bake you one but it will be the "bomb"


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