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#26350733 - 11/28/19 03:11 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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https://www.rt.com/op-ed/474496-court-ban-birmingham-lgbt/
"The court imposed ban on the anti-LGBT demonstrators at a Birmingham primary school, rather than quell the protests, may increase tensions in a community that already struggles to share the values of contemporary Britain."
https://www.rt.com/uk/474349-lgbt-school-protests-banned/
Justice Warby QC, issuing the permanent injunction at the High Court in Birmingham, said the protests had "a very significant adverse impact on the pupils, teachers and local residents.”
He cited claims made by speakers at protests, such as the school had a "pedophile agenda" and that staff were "teaching children how to masturbate.'' The judge remarked that “none of this is true.”
In response to the ruling, the UK Department for Education released a statement, welcoming the decision of the court and insisted that they had long been of the view that they wanted to “end these protests and encourage positive dialogue.”"
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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: dreamachine] 3
#26350788 - 11/28/19 03:44 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Every now and then I find myself siding with Muslims
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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: dreamachine] 5
#26350820 - 11/28/19 04:11 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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if they don't want to learn and adhere to Western values, they should go back where they came from 
if they want Sharia schools and Sharia law go back to Sharia countries having them take control of part of the school curriculum would have fostered insular Muslim communities and no-go zones that were unsafe for UK citizens to be openly gay in
tho interesting to see them complain about a so-called "pedophile agenda" while trials have taken place in the UK regarding child trafficking rings
etc. and so forth
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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: Eminence] 3
#26350894 - 11/28/19 05:13 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Eminence said: Every now and then I find myself siding with Muslims
Probably more than you realize, there’s a lot of similarities between Christian conservatism and Islam.
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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: Burke Dennings]
#26350915 - 11/28/19 05:31 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, but I'm not a christian, and I'm not a full on conservative either.
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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: Tantrika] 1
#26350925 - 11/28/19 05:40 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Tantrika said: if they don't want to learn and adhere to Western values, they should go back where they came from 
if they want Sharia schools and Sharia law go back to Sharia countries having them take control of part of the school curriculum would have fostered insular Muslim communities and no-go zones that were unsafe for UK citizens to be openly gay in
tho interesting to see them complain about a so-called "pedophile agenda" while trials have taken place in the UK regarding child trafficking rings
etc. and so forth
I also agree with this, but at the same time, "western values" has it's own problems. It's not enough to accept gay people or trans people now, you get called a bigot by an increasing amount of people if you don't want to chemically castrate your kid who said one time "I'm a girl", or if you don't want the government teaching your 9 year old about anal sex and orgies.
Glad you brought up the child trafficking though, that's an enormous problem with the Muslims coming to Europe. But you're not supposed to talk about it. People keep trying to use the "well not all of them do that!" argument as if that's supposed to be of any help at all.
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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: Eminence]
#26350982 - 11/28/19 06:30 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yay for refugees!!!
Go mass immigration!!!
Especially from countries with horrible values!!!
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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: dreamachine]
#26351183 - 11/28/19 09:32 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: Eminence]
#26351232 - 11/28/19 10:37 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Tantrika said: if they don't want to learn and adhere to Western values, they should go back where they came from 
if they want Sharia schools and Sharia law go back to Sharia countries having them take control of part of the school curriculum would have fostered insular Muslim communities and no-go zones that were unsafe for UK citizens to be openly gay in
tho interesting to see them complain about a so-called "pedophile agenda" while trials have taken place in the UK regarding child trafficking rings
etc. and so forth
I also agree with this, but at the same time, "western values" has it's own problems. It's not enough to accept gay people or trans people now, you get called a bigot by an increasing amount of people if you don't want to chemically castrate your kid who said one time "I'm a girl", or if you don't want the government teaching your 9 year old about anal sex and orgies. ...
That would be a lot of why it is important, in my opinion, that these sentiments spread to immigrant communities Even if there are multi-generation white Canadians who do not agree with my lifestyle or accept and recognize me as human it is at least feasible for me to be out and open and have the worst fear being someone being a "bigot" towards me
trans or gay individuals coming out in minority communities have far more risk to their lives transwomen of colour are murdered at a higher rate than white transwomen, and that has to do with the broader communities they are part of
if it is a matter of whether my concern is higher for people afraid of being called a bigot, or for those who face violence due to enforced non-acceptance then educate the Muslim kids not to hate people for being different, and maybe the next generation of UK Muslims will be more tolerant to LGBTQ2+ communities, and more adherant to Western values
this does not stop rich immigrants from removing their children from the public school system and hiring a private tutor but, apparently, this issue is among refugee communities rather than (just) wealthy ones
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Eminence said: ... Glad you brought up the child trafficking though, that's an enormous problem with the Muslims coming to Europe. But you're not supposed to talk about it. People keep trying to use the "well not all of them do that!" argument as if that's supposed to be of any help at all.
it just really interests me that members of the Muslim community could be arguing that a school system is teaching pedophilia when one of the broader cultural clashes between Islam and modern Western countries is the issue of coerced child marriages
it really makes me wonder what the curriculum had in it something tells me the real reason a number of the immigrants were upset is because one of the course packs is about how adults (well, no one, but the illustrations were of adults trying to get kids into their car and stuff) don't have the right to touch your bathing suit area and that you should tell another adult who you trust if someone tries or, at least, that was among the worksheets still in my memory from grade school
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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: Tantrika]
#26351247 - 11/28/19 11:01 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't see how muslim religion would be open to values of homosexuality, transsexualism or in acceptance of others in general. And i don't think is possible in catholicism or for an orthodox.
I don't say it as a neckbeard atheist. But i don't think it is a minority problem, but a cultural one. In order to change a culture so much in so many time you would need a miracle or a catastrophe.
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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: Tantrika] 1
#26351307 - 11/29/19 12:19 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't know if you understood what I was saying. I was saying there's a lot of middle ground between beating and killing trans or gay people, and being so "open minded" that we have kids almost being encouraged to be gay or identify as a different sex. "Western values" have gone too far in the opposite direction of something like Islam. That's pretty apparent when you have fathers losing custody battles against the mother of a kid who's being forced to dress and be treated like a girl when he doesn't want to.
But why do you see it as a problem if someone takes their kid out of public schools if they don't want them being raised by the government?
Also, can we finally drop the "people of color" thing? I'm so tired of being described as the "other" compared to everyone else, I'm not colorless god damn it. Besides, I thought everyone thought "colored people" was offensive, what's the difference? 
Anyway it's good to see more consistent trans people talking about this. It's so bizarre seeing how many of them are vehemently against christians for their opinions on lgbt but are such supporters of Muslims. A lot of feminists are the same way, many of them wouldn't even shake a woman's hand.
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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: Eminence] 2
#26351335 - 11/29/19 01:16 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Eminence said: I don't know if you understood what I was saying. I was saying there's a lot of middle ground between beating and killing trans or gay people, and being so "open minded" that we have kids almost being encouraged to be gay or identify as a different sex. ...
recognizing that gay and trans people exist and should not be hated for it is not the same as encouraging individuals to pursue those courses of action
so, would argue we are presently at a good middle ground in terms of what is being taught teaching minority communities the same things that helped to reduce criminality in white communities seems logical to my comprehension, it is basically only the muslim communities complaining about this curriculum, while white families do not object to it (or, at least, not on any large scale)
if this were several groups of people coming together across cultural lines objecting to a new curriculum being introduced, would be looking at the situation differently but it instead seems to be that it is muslims complaining that it does not adhere to muslim values enough
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Eminence said: ... That's pretty apparent when you have fathers losing custody battles against the mother of a kid who's being forced to dress and be treated like a girl when he doesn't want to. ...
 https://www.hrc.org/resources/a-national-epidemic-fatal-anti-trans-violence-in-the-united-states-in-2019
it's interesting that you provide account of one dysfunctional family being evidence of some shift "too far to the left" when around 22 families were impacted by murder on the basis of gender identity in the US this year
while the US has the problem largely in black communities, in Europe the majority of murders are in migrant communities
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TMM data shows that the victims whose occupations are known are mostly sex workers (61%). In the United States, the majority of the trans people reported murdered are trans women of colour and/or Native American trans women (90%), and in France, Italy, Portugal, and Spain, which are the countries to which most trans and gender-diverse people from Africa and Central and South America migrate, 65% of the reported murder victims were migrant trans women.
https://transrespect.org/en/tmm-update-trans-day-of-remembrance-2019/
so, in Europe in particular, the violence is largely targetted at people who tried to escape it elsewhere and, to me, it is atrocious that our Western societies are not forward enough to be doing a better job stamping this violence down
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Eminence said: ... But why do you see it as a problem if someone takes their kid out of public schools if they don't want them being raised by the government? ...
did not refer to it as a problem, simply recognized it as a reality rich muslims get too busy racing high-end cars through neighbourhoods to be be bothered with what is going on at public schools so they were likely not the ones objecting to the curriculum in the first place

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Eminence said: ... Also, can we finally drop the "people of color" thing? I'm so tired of being described as the "other" compared to everyone else, I'm not colorless god damn it. Besides, I thought everyone thought "colored people" was offensive, what's the difference?  ...
Would you prefer "non-white" or "black" to talk about this topic? speaking of people of colour, specifically transwomen of colour, is the language they have chosen to bring up the distinction within the LGBTQ2+ community but am fine with adjusting to whatever is more prefered in the given situation
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Eminence said: ... Anyway it's good to see more consistent trans people talking about this. It's so bizarre seeing how many of them are vehemently against christians for their opinions on lgbt but are such supporters of Muslims. A lot of feminists are the same way, many of them wouldn't even shake a woman's hand.
well, for me to treat all Christians or all Muslims as being the same would not be much different from people expecting me to adhere to some narrow concept of how trans people are supposed to act and that would go against the very point of my support -- this is not about me wanting Muslims to accept me for being trans am unlikely to ever be in situations where they will cause me danger for it but there are gay and trans Muslims who are in danger in their own communities
but yeah, there is a lot of branches in feminism as well terfs are feminists that don't believe transwomen are women swerfs are feminists that don't believe women can be empowered by sex work or take part in it by choice, and consequently don't believe sex workers deserve legal protections
interestingly, there is overlap with sex worker and trans deaths
 prolly because trans people don't get a lot of options in life -- seem to recall a Joe Rogan episode where he mentioned that pretty much no one gets into professional fighting or sex work if they have any other real options available to them because while it can be empowering to some women, it is not necessarily empowering to all of them
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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: Tantrika]
#26351443 - 11/29/19 04:36 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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I am pretty sure 33 poor fellas drawn this year in spain, i can be wrong.
So, statistically speaking is ethically more worth of effort of prevention being drawned in spain that being murdered as trasgender.
Also, the amount of suicides, car accidents, cancer, male to male fights over a woman, suffocating while eating, bdsm related asphyxia mistakes etc kills more people that transexyals are murdered.
Also, my ex was trans and a prostitute, i met her that way. She had other options but opening her butthole was easy money (she earned more than me free of taxes working a few hours per day). I repeat, she had other options.
A sex worker recieves more violence. Thats why there are madams and pimps. Being preop transexual is why you are atractive to those people. As a prostitute with femenine aspect and a huge cock will earn almost double a better common independent prostitute. If anything being trans is better for sexual business.
I am also quite sure we can trace proportional values between recieved violent crime and being born with testicles. So the problem might as well be being born with balls between your legs. You also live less years and die more in general...
Tbh o don't think american black culture or muslim one are specially a problem to trans, it is a problem to all.
Also, when will lgtbi collective stop adding more letters and spitting on bdsm collective? It is because bdsm people keep it private?.
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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: living_failure]
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living_failure said: I don't see how muslim religion would be open to values of homosexuality, transsexualism or in acceptance of others in general. And i don't think is possible in catholicism or for an orthodox.
I don't say it as a neckbeard atheist. But i don't think it is a minority problem, but a cultural one. In order to change a culture so much in so many time you would need a miracle or a catastrophe.
Muslims are more accepting of gay people then evangelicals in the US.
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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: koods]
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living_failure said: I don't see how muslim religion would be open to values of homosexuality, transsexualism or in acceptance of others in general. And i don't think is possible in catholicism or for an orthodox.
I don't say it as a neckbeard atheist. But i don't think it is a minority problem, but a cultural one. In order to change a culture so much in so many time you would need a miracle or a catastrophe.
Muslims are more accepting of gay people then evangelicals in the US.
Evangelical are catholics or protestans?
In spain,muslim are insanely square minded, followed by opus dei then catholics then liberals.
Aren't they thought to put the other cheek, to not throw the first stone etc? Just a remainder National-Catholicism was a serious problem in form of dictatorship in spain for decades, still, nowadays muslims are still worse than franquists
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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: living_failure]
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living_failure said: I am pretty sure 33 poor fellas drawn this year in spain, i can be wrong.
So, statistically speaking is ethically more worth of effort of prevention being drawned in spain that being murdered as trasgender.
Also, the amount of suicides, car accidents, cancer, male to male fights over a woman, suffocating while eating, bdsm related asphyxia mistakes etc kills more people that transexyals are murdered. ...
Yeah, statistically speaking trans deaths should be a lot lower than they are given the % of the global population that is trans
Fortunately, this thread is about education, which has additional benefits for the population
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living_failure said: ... Also, my ex was trans and a prostitute, i met her that way. She had other options but opening her butthole was easy money (she earned more than me free of taxes working a few hours per day). I repeat, she had other options. ...
Was one of those other options not engaging in sex work in order to afford transitional surgeries? We used to have a German transwoman who hung around on the boards, who got into cam sex shows to cover breast implants
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living_failure said: ... I am also quite sure we can trace proportional values between recieved violent crime and being born with testicles. So the problem might as well be being born with balls between your legs. You also live less years and die more in general... ...
Could you provide statistics to reflect your assurity? are you using the "born with testicles" designator to classify transwomen alongside men or are you stating that cis men receive violence at higher relative rates to their proportion of the greater population than transwomen?
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living_failure said: ... Also, when will lgtbi collective stop adding more letters and spitting on bdsm collective? It is because bdsm people keep it private?.
Spitting on the BDSM collective? That is a new one -- am more accustomed to the complaint being that LGBTQ2+ people wear BDSM gear in public during parades
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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: Tantrika]
#26351479 - 11/29/19 05:28 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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living_failure said: I am pretty sure 33 poor fellas drawn this year in spain, i can be wrong.
So, statistically speaking is ethically more worth of effort of prevention being drawned in spain that being murdered as trasgender.
Also, the amount of suicides, car accidents, cancer, male to male fights over a woman, suffocating while eating, bdsm related asphyxia mistakes etc kills more people that transexyals are murdered. ...
Yeah, statistically speaking trans deaths should be a lot lower than they are given the % of the global population that is trans
Fortunately, this thread is about education, which has additional benefits for the population
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living_failure said: ... Also, my ex was trans and a prostitute, i met her that way. She had other options but opening her butthole was easy money (she earned more than me free of taxes working a few hours per day). I repeat, she had other options. ...
Was one of those other options not engaging in sex work in order to afford transitional surgeries? We used to have a German transwoman who hung around on the boards, who got into cam sex shows to cover breast implants
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living_failure said: ... I am also quite sure we can trace proportional values between recieved violent crime and being born with testicles. So the problem might as well be being born with balls between your legs. You also live less years and die more in general... ...
Could you provide statistics to reflect your assurity? are you using the "born with testicles" designator to classify transwomen alongside men or are you stating that cis men receive violence at higher relative rates to their proportion of the greater population than transwomen?
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living_failure said: ... Also, when will lgtbi collective stop adding more letters and spitting on bdsm collective? It is because bdsm people keep it private?.
Spitting on the BDSM collective? That is a new one -- am more accustomed to the complaint being that LGBTQ2+ people wear BDSM gear in public during parades
I am going to quote in block because my fingers are big and my phone small, sorry.
Even if it is more likely for a transexual to be murdered that a whatever to be drown, there are more drowns so it should be mmore important to society. Unless you imply that transexuals need special care... in that case ok.
In spain sex change is free (just a few years queue). and even if she wanted a profesional it was only 18k. She could have paid it in one year if she wasnt living in a full rented hous of over 300square meters. The last year she didn't even paid rent. So she worked less.
Yes, it was an statistical game, im quite sure that even if you change your sex later in life having had testes will make you more likelly to recieve violence. Numbers about violence recieved and trans (mtf for sure) you provided them, and numbers about men are kinda easy to find i guess? ill try later.
And yes, the lgtbi collective always tried to stay far away for bdsm collective, at least here. Bdsm said keep things legal but in private, lgtbi said bdsm was just perversion and curable and being open about your sexuality in public was fine.
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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: living_failure]
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In spain homicides: 62% male to male, 28% male to female, 7% female to male, 3% female to female. Source INE (spanish national institute of statistics)
I dont't think USA would be much different.
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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: living_failure]
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living_failure said: I am pretty sure 33 poor fellas drawn this year in spain, i can be wrong.
So, statistically speaking is ethically more worth of effort of prevention being drawned in spain that being murdered as trasgender.
Also, the amount of suicides, car accidents, cancer, male to male fights over a woman, suffocating while eating, bdsm related asphyxia mistakes etc kills more people that transexyals are murdered. ...
Yeah, statistically speaking trans deaths should be a lot lower than they are given the % of the global population that is trans
Fortunately, this thread is about education, which has additional benefits for the population
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living_failure said: ... Also, my ex was trans and a prostitute, i met her that way. She had other options but opening her butthole was easy money (she earned more than me free of taxes working a few hours per day). I repeat, she had other options. ...
Was one of those other options not engaging in sex work in order to afford transitional surgeries? We used to have a German transwoman who hung around on the boards, who got into cam sex shows to cover breast implants
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living_failure said: ... I am also quite sure we can trace proportional values between recieved violent crime and being born with testicles. So the problem might as well be being born with balls between your legs. You also live less years and die more in general... ...
Could you provide statistics to reflect your assurity? are you using the "born with testicles" designator to classify transwomen alongside men or are you stating that cis men receive violence at higher relative rates to their proportion of the greater population than transwomen?
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living_failure said: ... Also, when will lgtbi collective stop adding more letters and spitting on bdsm collective? It is because bdsm people keep it private?.
Spitting on the BDSM collective? That is a new one -- am more accustomed to the complaint being that LGBTQ2+ people wear BDSM gear in public during parades
I am going to quote in block because my fingers are big and my phone small, sorry.
Even if it is more likely for a transexual to be murdered that a whatever to be drown, there are more drowns so it should be mmore important to society. Unless you imply that transexuals need special care... in that case ok. ...
google pegs the population of Spain as just over 46.5 million people the World Health Organization estimates a population of about 25 million trans people worldwide
and the worldwide murders of trans people this year is clocked at 331 registered deaths
so despite there being a little over half as many trans people in the world as there are Spanish people in the world 10 times more were killed than Spanish citizens were drowned (I think this is what you are referring to -- unless you are referring to people being drawn and quartered)
so do you seek to imply that the Spanish need special care?
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living_failure said: In spain sex change is free (just a few years queue). and even if she wanted a profesional it was only 18k. She could have paid it in one year if she wasnt living in a full rented hous of over 300square meters. The last year she didn't even paid rent. So she worked less. ...
In Canada it is free too -- tho breast implants are not "only" 18k reminds me of how poor I am QQ
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living_failure said:.. Yes, it was an statistical game, im quite sure that even if you change your sex later in life having had testes will make you more likelly to recieve violence. Numbers about violence recieved and trans (mtf for sure) you provided them, and numbers about men are kinda easy to find i guess? ill try later. ...
would you please also include the rates of violence of men towards men, violence of women towards men, violence of men towards transgender individuals, and violence of women towards transgender individuals you can throw in the rates of violence of men towards women, and women towards women if you want to
but yeah, do at least agree that a transwoman is more likely to be a victim of violence than a transman
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living_failure said: ... And yes, the lgtbi collective always tried to stay far away for bdsm collective, at least here. Bdsm said keep things legal but in private, lgtbi said bdsm was just perversion and curable and being open about your sexuality in public was fine.
Wow, Spain sounds strange here in Canada, there are prolly more bi and gay individuals in the BDSM community and we have bondage clubs and "fetish nights" publicly celebrating the BDSM community
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Re: Court Bans Muslim Refugees Protesting 'LGBT' Lessons at Primary/Grade School [Re: living_failure]
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living_failure said: In spain homicides: 62% male to male, 28% male to female, 7% female to male, 3% female to female. Source INE (spanish national institute of statistics)
I dont't think USA would be much different.
so statistically speaking, in Spain at least, Men are more likely to commit violence against other men and against women as seperate individual groups than women are likely to commit violence against both groups combined
was your argument that men are more likely to be violent or be victims of outside violence?
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