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I shook my pan spawn :facepalm:
    #26350505 - 11/28/19 12:09 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: I shook my pan spawn :facepalm: [Re: cronicr]
    #26350562 - 11/28/19 12:56 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Is that bad or something?

:confused: :wtf:


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Re: I shook my pan spawn :facepalm: [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26350566 - 11/28/19 12:59 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Not to be rude but I'm gonna be rude...

I love it when a TC makes posts like this, with face palms and such... it reminds us all that their title doesn't make them immune from mistakes or being wrong...

Anywho, why cant you shake pans? I know literally nothing about pans...


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Re: I shook my pan spawn :facepalm: [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
    #26350568 - 11/28/19 01:00 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Please dont take that as: "I like seeing you make mistakes " certainly not my point..


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Re: I shook my pan spawn :facepalm: [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
    #26350572 - 11/28/19 01:03 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Lol there's nothing wrong, shaking Pan's is fine I'm just being cheeky :lol:
But these were like only 10% and I had meant to grab my pe/ crs  cross jars


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Re: I shook my pan spawn :facepalm: [Re: cronicr]
    #26350574 - 11/28/19 01:04 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

There used to be a stigma about shaking pan spawn but it never made sense to me


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Re: I shook my pan spawn :facepalm: [Re: cronicr]
    #26350611 - 11/28/19 01:34 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

i'm convinced the shake is advisable.  i first saw asura point out, and have confirmed thru experience, sometimes shaken jars don't recover well. and if they don't recover well from a shake in the jar, why would they recover well from a shake at spawning? this may save some time and materials.


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Re: I shook my pan spawn :facepalm: [Re: cronicr]
    #26350621 - 11/28/19 01:44 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Lol there's nothing wrong, shaking Pan's is fine I'm just being cheeky :lol:
But these were like only 10% and I had meant to grab my pe/ crs  cross jars




PE and what cross? What do you mean bro?


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Re: I shook my pan spawn :facepalm: [Re: J. Jack Flash]
    #26350647 - 11/28/19 02:03 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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i'm convinced the shake is advisable.  i first saw asura point out, and have confirmed thru experience, sometimes shaken jars don't recover well. and if they don't recover well from a shake in the jar, why would they recover well from a shake at spawning? this may save some time and materials.



Yeah I had some " discussions" with hamloaf a couple years ago about it.
Why would they survive agar transfers and spawning bit not a shake?
Well that's because unlike cubes bacteria can be a death sentence for them. Some genus/ species handle contams better then others. I have g2g'd pans lots without issues. Any species should handle a shake I only wouldn't advise it for stone production


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Re: I shook my pan spawn :facepalm: [Re: cronicr]
    #26350727 - 11/28/19 03:00 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Haha you had me for a second. Yeah a good pan culture will rebound great after
a shake. In fact, I think they recover even faster than cubes. Now with that
said, I did do a shake recently and they died...like right there on the spot :lol:


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Re: I shook my pan spawn :facepalm: [Re: Asura]
    #26350735 - 11/28/19 03:12 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Haha you had me for a second. Yeah a good pan culture will rebound great after
a shake. In fact, I think they recover even faster than cubes. Now with that
said, I did do a shake recently and they died...like right there on the spot :lol:



:shakeface: :beatadeadhorse:

maybe its todays fresh microdose but damn i laughed hard at that, died...like right there on the spot, statement.:awesomenod:


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Re: I shook my pan spawn :facepalm: [Re: Asura]
    #26350781 - 11/28/19 03:40 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Exactly! they took off like fire after shaking, it did not slow growing rate at all. Like I saw grow in 10 hours.. my Cubes shows the same growth in 32h.


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Re: I shook my pan spawn :facepalm: [Re: cronicr]
    #26353401 - 11/30/19 08:44 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Ms pans do tend to stall when shaken, isolates don't  have this issue.


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Re: I shook my pan spawn :facepalm: [Re: Rumblestrip]
    #26353412 - 11/30/19 08:51 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I don't do a hard shake with pans. Just kind of turn the jar upside down and
get it to break up gently. Then roll it around a bit.


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Re: I shook my pan spawn :facepalm: [Re: Rumblestrip]
    #26353738 - 11/30/19 12:04 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Ms pans do tend to stall when shaken, isolates don't  have this issue.



I've never had the issue:shrug:


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Re: I shook my pan spawn :facepalm: [Re: cronicr]
    #26353783 - 11/30/19 12:31 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

You're working from agar "isolates" aren't you?
The theory back then was that shaking isolates wasn't an issue because you had one or a small number of strains in the jar that would recover and reassemble. With a true multispore after the shake the diffrent strains didn't want to re integrate and therefore stall.  Much like putting several strains on a dish and seeing inhibition zones when they meet.
Not saying this is valid or holds up to current thinking. I never had agar to grain jars stall only true ms. Consensus was also that contams weren't the issue since we all knew how to work clean and weren't having the issue with other species.


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Re: I shook my pan spawn :facepalm: [Re: Rumblestrip]
    #26353801 - 11/30/19 12:41 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Naw ms agar culture.
If they can't survive a shake how would plan to spawn them


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Re: I shook my pan spawn :facepalm: [Re: cronicr]
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Re: I shook my pan spawn :facepalm: [Re: cronicr]
    #26361210 - 12/04/19 02:38 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

i cant really see them good, but not looking good to me from here:shrug:
(if this is not why you turned mood to angry, then please do forgive my noob eyes!
its jars like these that i want to hold in hand to inspect! :lol:


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    #26361347 - 12/04/19 04:06 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I didn't notice I switched to the angry face:lol:


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Re: I shook my pan spawn :facepalm: [Re: cronicr]
    #26361361 - 12/04/19 04:13 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Jars look great to me. I have a few going myself. I never spawn grain to bulk
but I'm doing some experiments.


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Re: I shook my pan spawn :facepalm: [Re: Asura]
    #26375240 - 12/11/19 02:58 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

First jar was spawned yesterday I'll get pics up eventually, said fuck it and shook them all


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    #26375329 - 12/11/19 03:36 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

:jah: all will be well

and yer trippin me out with the mood changes already haha! actually didnt know they stayed what they were at time of post, thought they changed universal like sig till now. noticing again on scroll down.

also thought, dude is mooodyAF:lol:


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    #26375510 - 12/11/19 04:39 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: I shook my pan spawn :facepalm: [Re: cronicr]
    #26375841 - 12/11/19 07:16 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

What substrate is that? Looks like Coir...


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Re: I shook my pan spawn :facepalm: [Re: Prietenul]
    #26375848 - 12/11/19 07:17 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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What substrate is that? Looks like Coir...



:wink:


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Re: I shook my pan spawn :facepalm: [Re: cronicr]
    #26375855 - 12/11/19 07:19 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

You're spawning Pans to Coir?? :grin:

Nah it isn't coir. My browser window was too small  :laugh: 


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    #26375868 - 12/11/19 07:24 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Lol yes it's coir


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    #26375876 - 12/11/19 07:25 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

No straw in there?


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Re: I shook my pan spawn :facepalm: [Re: cronicr]
    #26375883 - 12/11/19 07:27 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Crazy shit. Do you think this will work? If so, I have aquired and dried a ton of horse poo for nothing? :laugh: :laugh:


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    #26375893 - 12/11/19 07:36 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Use your manure.
They do ok on coir, my manure spot was empty yesterday


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Re: I shook my pan spawn :facepalm: [Re: cronicr]
    #26375899 - 12/11/19 07:40 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

All right, it's cheaper after all.

But you still use some fancy fruiting chamber with fogger and hoses and stuff, right?


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    #26375915 - 12/11/19 07:46 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

"fogger and hoses and stuff" - you're talking about me huh :lol:

You could put a martha together for < $100.


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Re: I shook my pan spawn :facepalm: [Re: Prietenul]
    #26375918 - 12/11/19 07:46 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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All right, it's cheaper after all.

But you still use some fancy fruiting chamber with fogger and hoses and stuff, right?



That will be for most of my spawn this one was just days ahead of the rest so a little tray, maybe find a couple clones who knows


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Re: I shook my pan spawn :facepalm: [Re: Asura]
    #26375937 - 12/11/19 07:53 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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"fogger and hoses and stuff" - you're talking about me huh :lol:





To be honest, yes, you were on my mind :lol:

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You could put a martha together for < $100.




You mean with everything? For growing Pans?
From what I saw, the fogger alone is at about 100 €. Let alone the fan and the tent...
I have just spend hundreds on petri dishes, agar ingrediens, grains, tubs, pressure cooker lights... My girlfriend is gonna kill me if I put more money in :lol:

But still, do you have a link for a good Tek? Or a list of things I'll need? Tbh I didn't search yet...


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    #26375949 - 12/11/19 07:58 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I use an ultra sonic humidifier and a cool mist humidifier.
Cool mist on bottom with the intake coming from outside and the ultra up top


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    #26375955 - 12/11/19 08:02 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I was just thinking about letting the shower run with hot water (~140°) all the time. I don't pay for water. But then, it's shitty and bad for the environment. So...bad idea :lol:


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    #26375962 - 12/11/19 08:03 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Frankhorrigan and violet have great Martha write ups


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    #26375965 - 12/11/19 08:04 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

U don't need Martha's you can grow in monos sgfc's ECT


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    #26375971 - 12/11/19 08:06 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I'll look into them. Thanks!


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    #26375973 - 12/11/19 08:06 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I use an ultra sonic humidifier and a cool mist humidifier.
Cool mist on bottom with the intake coming from outside and the ultra up top




@Preitenul - was talking about something like this + a couple of timers.

You start adding temp/humidity controllers and that jumps up in price a bit.

I like how mary does her GH
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25728237#25728237

But seriously like I said in the other thread MacMerdin's is what you
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    #26375978 - 12/11/19 08:08 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah I have a couple of inkbird controllers but I don't even use them I'm old school:lol:


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    #26375982 - 12/11/19 08:10 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

If my latest experiment works out, the grow room is getting torn down.
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    #26375987 - 12/11/19 08:11 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

:takingnotes:we was thinking to be buying some of these things soon


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    #26375991 - 12/11/19 08:12 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Yes, I'll try MacMerdin's TEK and let some time pass. Then I will buy that stuff for a more proficient Pan grow.


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Re: I shook my pan spawn :facepalm: [Re: Asura]
    #26375993 - 12/11/19 08:12 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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If my latest experiment works out, the grow room is getting torn down.
God I hope it works.




Believe me, I hope it works even more than you :lol:


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Re: I shook my pan spawn :facepalm: [Re: cronicr]
    #26376068 - 12/11/19 08:52 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Use your manure.
They do ok on coir, my manure spot was empty yesterday



Really they do ok on coir? The manure is for nitrogen right? What about coir supplemented with chopped straw and coffee for nitrogen.


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Re: I shook my pan spawn :facepalm: [Re: gizmo1] * 1
    #26376183 - 12/11/19 10:35 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)


Set up my new Martha this weekend. The humidity controller should be here Friday. Until then I'm just running timers.


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Re: I shook my pan spawn :facepalm: [Re: spiritlands]
    #26376987 - 12/12/19 11:01 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

We are giving away inkbird controllers in the Facebook group there is also a 50% off deal as well


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Re: I shook my pan spawn :facepalm: [Re: cronicr]
    #26377738 - 12/12/19 05:48 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah shaking pans is always hit or miss for me. How asura said they can recover faster than cubes and even eat casings faster than cubes. Then sometimes you shake and instant death. The mycelia is very fragile.


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Re: I shook my pan spawn :facepalm: [Re: eatyualive]
    #26377752 - 12/12/19 05:54 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

The shake killed my last jar. Was about 30%. I have some more going on agar tho so I'm gonna try again. Maybe I didn't have my grains ideal. It sure smelled good tho.


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Re: I shook my pan spawn :facepalm: [Re: spiritlands]
    #26377846 - 12/12/19 07:08 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Only time it never recovered i dropped grain back to agar where I seen bacteria.
It survives transfers it survives lc and survives spawning :shrug:


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Re: I shook my pan spawn :facepalm: [Re: cronicr]
    #26377893 - 12/12/19 07:33 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

This is after a shake.



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Re: I shook my pan spawn :facepalm: [Re: cronicr]
    #26378494 - 12/13/19 04:49 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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    #26378845 - 12/13/19 09:53 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

i have eight jars that i shook some time ago. a few recovered well, some not so well, and some not at all. may do foto examination this evening.


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Re: I shook my pan spawn :facepalm: [Re: J. Jack Flash] * 1
    #26378893 - 12/13/19 10:08 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Toss'em.
I only made these few jars to get rid of plates I have the culture I wanted on lc  ready to test. Hopefully I see some red spores and if not at least some shit to clone lol.


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Re: I shook my pan spawn :facepalm: [Re: cronicr]
    #26383139 - 12/15/19 11:10 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Here's a good shake and what it looks like 2 days later. With a bad shake, a day later
and it will look the same - or it might look like there is no mycelium in the jar at all.



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